Guest A/D Posted November 5, 2009 Report Share Posted November 5, 2009 i love gibson, especially the bridge trilogy, and i can understand some complaints about his characters - i always end up feeling like the real character is his vision of the future - the places, the technology, the vision of humanity. i find this immensely enjoyable. although, in neuromancer, maybe molly and case were not closely defined on purpose - i thought case's character was expressed so blankly to mirror the narcotized haze he used to combat all the things he didn't want to feel. (this is briefly alluded to in count zero.) glass plate, may i congratulate you on what may be a victory of your style - i have to refrain from calling you an idiot after almost every post you make. except in that music thread. good job, your snarky, uncited generalizations always piss me off. you win. chen, ditto on diamond age! that one always stood out to me, and it's not a common favorite. . i hope so too! Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/48226-neuromancer-25-years-later/page/2/#findComment-1158696 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chenGOD Posted November 5, 2009 Report Share Posted November 5, 2009 I mean I love the Baroque Cycle, (haven't had time to make it through Anathem yet), but goddamned The Diamond Age was near perfect. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide all signatures 백호야~~~항상에 사랑할거예요.나의 아들. Shout outs to the saracens, musulmen and celestials. Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/48226-neuromancer-25-years-later/page/2/#findComment-1158699 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaosmachine Posted November 5, 2009 Report Share Posted November 5, 2009 I wouldn't read too much into Neuromancer's style. I remember Gibson saying he used virtual reality as a way to get characters from place to place instantly, because he literally didn't know how to write about people physically walking around. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide all signatures WATMM Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/48226-neuromancer-25-years-later/page/2/#findComment-1158701 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest idrn Posted November 5, 2009 Report Share Posted November 5, 2009 On 11/5/2009 at 5:46 AM, chenGOD said: I mean I love the Baroque Cycle, (haven't had time to make it through Anathem yet), but goddamned The Diamond Age was near perfect. the baroque cycle is the only thing i've read by him (and it took long e-fucking-nough). i was nicely surprised when i heard he does scifi etc too. have you read cryptonomicon? Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/48226-neuromancer-25-years-later/page/2/#findComment-1158720 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chenGOD Posted November 5, 2009 Report Share Posted November 5, 2009 yeah Cryptonomicon is kind of a follow up to the Baroque Cycle. In a vague sort of way. I've read just about everything by him, except as I said, Anathem. Oh and I haven''t read his stuff that he wrote under his pseudonym... If you think it took you a long time to read the baroque cycle, imagine writing it...he wrote it by hand, using quills. Snow Crash is very good, Diamond Age is excellent. Zodiac is so so. The Big U is also so so. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide all signatures 백호야~~~항상에 사랑할거예요.나의 아들. Shout outs to the saracens, musulmen and celestials. Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/48226-neuromancer-25-years-later/page/2/#findComment-1159224 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sneaksta303 Posted November 6, 2009 Report Share Posted November 6, 2009 (edited) Snow Crash blew my mind when I was 15. EDIT: I wonder if it holds up. Edited November 6, 2009 by sneaksta303 Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide sneaksta303's signature Hide all signatures The Dark Tower Cycle Pplz ep The Swarm H.P. Sneakstep's Educational Tours Vol. 1 Branch Acidian - Acid's Done Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/48226-neuromancer-25-years-later/page/2/#findComment-1159236 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tessier Ashpool Posted November 6, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 6, 2009 I re-read Snow Crash about a year ago (and first read it only about 3 years ago). Loved it both times - highly entertaining and didn't take itself too seriously, while still being wonderfully imaginative and well written. Neuromancer, I agree, is more about the ideas/atmosphere than the characterization/writing/etc. I do believe Gibson wouldn't ascribe a lot of weight to his "coining" of "cyberspace," and I'm pretty sure he's even said that he feels like Neuromancer wasn't particularly well developed as a work of "literature." I still love it, though, as the universe described is awfully compelling to a cyberpunk lover. If anyone is interested, there's a great "film" about Gibson (mostly an on-the-cheap but interestingly directed series of interviews with WG) called "No Maps for These Territories" which I LOVE. Gibson comes across as a very thoughtful, humble, oddly anachronistic sort of guy. The man you feel wrote All Tomorrow's Parties versus the acid head that likely wrote Nueromancer. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Tessier Ashpool's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/48226-neuromancer-25-years-later/page/2/#findComment-1159842 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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