Ableton Live 5.0

How is this software? i'm considering buying this in correlation with a midi keyboard controller, and i'm wondering if it's worth it. What do you boys think?

wha inigge r

I love it. It's so easy to get into and the interface is really nice - clean and uncluttered. Also it's really easy to assign vst parameters and stuff to a controller knob/button/key, which I'm sure you can do in alot of other programs but I just found it worked how I wanted it to work, so I stuck with it. Great tutorials too.

Ableton+Renoise+a buttload of VST/VSTi+my cheap-ass mk-425c controller is my entire setup and I can do whatever the hell I want.

You can always check out the Ableton demo if you aren't sure but I say go for it.

i was thinking it was worth it, i had heard only goo dthigns about it, and a combo of a controller and the software for under $500 seems ok./

it really depends on what you want to do.

Just try the demo. If it's for you, you'll probably realise fairly soon. I did, and I've never looked back

just buy it.

i definately recommend ess, it's easy to use and somewhat professional... and it's kinda fun

good stuff

get it.

oh and you don't have to buy software nowadays you do know that

i mean, like a lot of people here say and what i believe, if you're doing this music making knob twiddling as a hobbie, well then. i mean, it's not like you are an artist getting paid and can afford software

err anyways

yeah

Watch out for Ableton's fiendish copy protection though: the finest bonafide H2O cracks in the world didn't stop it from detecting violations (after months of use) in two versions of v4 and one of v5. In the end I just got the software legitimately because I thought it was worth it.

I just bought it, I've used it twice... this weekend I plan to really dive into it. I think I will like this software a lot .... good luck.

yeah, i want to jsut get it legit, and keep my new computer, once i get it, as clean as possible.

Hmm.. if i were starting out I'd check out Cubase SX and Renoise first... you might like Cubase's or Renoise's method of sequencing more... just check out the demos to see whats the thing for you..

Ableton is amazing, its definately setting some standards right now. I dunno if I would leave using Traktor though, for DJing purposes. But for live performance it is a handy tool. Definately worth purchasing.

I just recently purchased an issue of Computer Music Magazine (UK) that had a complete tutorial on Ableton, it was amazing. Also my midi controller came with a demo version, and the CM issue came with a whole bunch of patches for the demo, so I basically got the real deal for free. If I need to save..I just rewire slave it through Cubase SX3...which is another program worth buying...heh...heh... :innocent:

You use cubase to sequence iep?

yep... i sequence midi-data in cubase and in my yamaha rm1x (which in turns sends alot of the data to cubase)... i do all the audio-seq'ing in cubase too.. for audio-editing i sometimes use wavelab, but mainly cubase (especially since sx3)....

  iep said:

yep... i sequence midi-data in cubase and in my yamaha rm1x (which in turns sends alot of the data to cubase)... i do all the audio-seq'ing in cubase too.. for audio-editing i sometimes use wavelab, but mainly cubase (especially since sx3)....

its tttrue.

SX3 is the tits.

  Cyanescens said:

  iep said:

yep... i sequence midi-data in cubase and in my yamaha rm1x (which in turns sends alot of the data to cubase)... i do all the audio-seq'ing in cubase too.. for audio-editing i sometimes use wavelab, but mainly cubase (especially since sx3)....

 

its tttrue.

 

 

SX3 is the tits.

a little intense of a program for someone wanting to do this for fun i think,

Ableton Live is one of the best designed and best programmed apps I've ever seen, regardless of usage, and although the learning curve is a little bumpy, mainly because of its unusual workflow, a new user can usually get something good out of it very quickly, with help from a first-rate tutorial.

Its weakest point IMO right now would be the piano roll - cubase users often find it rudimentary and lacking in decent tools, but its handling of audio is so impressive that this can be forgiven.

Rewired with a slave step sequencer like FL Studio (THE best sound-design host by miles), it is a really powerful tool and a great alternative to Cubase, even though it can tend to leave a "signature sound", especially if you use the timestretching and certain FX a lot.

  yekker said:

  Cyanescens said:

  iep said:

yep... i sequence midi-data in cubase and in my yamaha rm1x (which in turns sends alot of the data to cubase)... i do all the audio-seq'ing in cubase too.. for audio-editing i sometimes use wavelab, but mainly cubase (especially since sx3)....

 

its tttrue.

 

 

SX3 is the tits.

 

a little intense of a program for someone wanting to do this for fun i think,

it might be too much if all you want is shuffle around some colored blocks and factory presets inside a happy fun colored program to have some.. fun..

as you may recall, i binned my cubase after years of use when live came out. live can do as much as you want or as little

i recommend it

i piss on steinberg

nm

cheg - tried to get hold of you last night - technical query re: live 5.

how do you eliminate jitter when syncin up to machines with Live? We got it working with mine as master sending midi clock to gump's as slave and all works well, but there's a tiny amount of delay in timing...putting the metronome on both you can hear a slight doubling up/phasing like one is just behind the other.

the delay control in the midi tab of preferences didnt seem to do shit all.

ideas?

  iep said:

Hmm.. if i were starting out I'd check out Cubase SX and Renoise first... you might like Cubase's or Renoise's method of sequencing more... just check out the demos to see whats the thing for you..

i have both of those already.

  mosca said:

as you may recall, i binned my cubase after years of use when live came out. live can do as much as you want or as little

 

i recommend it

 

i piss on steinberg

 

nm

i'm not going to lie about this but since mosca is using ableton live i am gong to buy it. and a controller. together. yes

~ism - i'll call you tomorrow, fancy chris clark in the ABC?

ess - you know it makes sense

lots of people say ableton live is very easy to use, but i found that it had a much higher learning curve than cubase.

  iep said:

  yekker said:

  Cyanescens said:

  iep said:

yep... i sequence midi-data in cubase and in my yamaha rm1x (which in turns sends alot of the data to cubase)... i do all the audio-seq'ing in cubase too.. for audio-editing i sometimes use wavelab, but mainly cubase (especially since sx3)....

 

its tttrue.

 

 

SX3 is the tits.

 

a little intense of a program for someone wanting to do this for fun i think,

 

it might be too much if all you want is shuffle around some colored blocks and factory presets inside a happy fun colored program to have some.. fun..

thats whow i felt at first with Live, and it definitly seems that way on the surface. It looks like a poorly designed flash webpage to me. But interface aside, i think its a different approach to making electronic music that seems to work really well for some people. I do think people should expand a little more, and i find most Live users exclusively use live. And it might just be the people i know but songs made on Live have a very loopy feel to them if you're not very experienced in general with midi sequencing.

  mosca said:

~ism - i'll call you tomorrow, fancy chris clark in the ABC?

that's tonight aye?