karmakramer Posted October 27, 2009 Report Share Posted October 27, 2009 An hour long presentation, but for those who take the time to watch this it probably will change a lot of how you think. Its presented by Richard Dawkins for those who care. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/50192-a-universe-of-nothing/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
benc812 Posted October 27, 2009 Report Share Posted October 27, 2009 love the quote in this video "forget jesus; the stars died so that you could be here today" (around 17-18 minutes in) awesome. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/50192-a-universe-of-nothing/#findComment-1153630 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ZeroHour Posted October 27, 2009 Report Share Posted October 27, 2009 watching it now, seems quite interesting cheers for that Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/50192-a-universe-of-nothing/#findComment-1153632 Share on other sites More sharing options...
vamos scorcho Posted October 27, 2009 Report Share Posted October 27, 2009 i don't get a very good feeling from richard dawkins. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/50192-a-universe-of-nothing/#findComment-1153653 Share on other sites More sharing options...
vamos scorcho Posted October 27, 2009 Report Share Posted October 27, 2009 this is just what i needed to see today. thanks for this Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/50192-a-universe-of-nothing/#findComment-1153654 Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneToThirtySix Posted October 27, 2009 Report Share Posted October 27, 2009 Is there a transcription somewhere? I'd rather read for forty minutes than listen for an hour. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/50192-a-universe-of-nothing/#findComment-1153656 Share on other sites More sharing options...
vamos scorcho Posted October 27, 2009 Report Share Posted October 27, 2009 i'm struggling quite badly with the fight between religion and science. i hate how the science people treat religion like a dog. but i know that they have something to say, the scientists. nothing would be more awesome though, than if richard dawkins came to a realization of something spiritual. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/50192-a-universe-of-nothing/#findComment-1153657 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gary C Posted October 27, 2009 Report Share Posted October 27, 2009 Watched the whole thing. Really good. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/50192-a-universe-of-nothing/#findComment-1153663 Share on other sites More sharing options...
vamos scorcho Posted October 27, 2009 Report Share Posted October 27, 2009 i can't wait for the discovery of multiple universes. a deep space photo of all the universes. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/50192-a-universe-of-nothing/#findComment-1153664 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gary C Posted October 27, 2009 Report Share Posted October 27, 2009 Towards the end he doesn't fully hint at the fact that the universe is infinite. He states that in a billion years time whatever astronomers that evolve and learn will see our galaxy disappearing into the nothingness of space, like we see distant galaxies today. He notes that at such distances a plasma becomes present, making observation of anything prior to that impossible. Surely, that's what we're seeing today. We can't see the Big Bang because it's behind a plasma. Fucking infinite enveloping shit, man. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/50192-a-universe-of-nothing/#findComment-1153666 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gary C Posted October 27, 2009 Report Share Posted October 27, 2009 In the Q&A section right at the end he says that if we were to create a universe, as creators we'd only see it collapsing into a black-hole, whereas anything inside the new universe would see it expanding into infinity. Fuck, this is futile. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/50192-a-universe-of-nothing/#findComment-1153672 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Funktion Posted October 27, 2009 Report Share Posted October 27, 2009 pointing out that the lecture is called 'a universe from nothing' 'a universe of nothing' is completely ridiculous Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/50192-a-universe-of-nothing/#findComment-1153677 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lumpenprol Posted October 27, 2009 Report Share Posted October 27, 2009 Wow, all it took was a single sentence for Dawkins to remind me what an utter tool he is. I bet he can only achieve sexual gratification by imagining Harry Potter and Jesus fellating each other. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide lumpenprol's signature Hide all signatures After this I listened to geogaddi and I didn't like it, I was quite vomitting at some tracks, I realized they were too crazy for my ears, they took too much acid to play music I stupidly thought (cliché of psyché music) But I knew this album was a kind of big forest where I just wasn't able to go inside. - lost cloud I was in US tjis summer, and eat in KFC. FUCK That's the worst thing i've ever eaten. The flesh simply doesn't cleave to the bones. Battery ferming. And then, foie gras is banned from NY state, because it's considered as ill-treat. IT'S NOT. KFC is tourist ill-treat. YOU POISONERS! Two hours after being to KFC, i stopped in a amsih little town barf all that KFC shit out. Nice work! So i hope this woman is not like kfc chicken, otherwise she'll be pulled to pieces. -organized confused project Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/50192-a-universe-of-nothing/#findComment-1153681 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ezkerraldean Posted October 27, 2009 Report Share Posted October 27, 2009 can't be arsed to watch this, comments make it seem populist and shite. plus dawkins pisses me off. that quote about the stars is actually cool though. it isn't all that dodgy to consider stars living organisms. after all, they basically reproduce. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/50192-a-universe-of-nothing/#findComment-1153705 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gary C Posted October 27, 2009 Report Share Posted October 27, 2009 On 10/27/2009 at 3:49 PM, lumpenprol said: Wow, all it took was a single sentence for Dawkins to remind me what an utter tool he is. I bet he can only achieve sexual gratification by imagining Harry Potter and Jesus fellating each other. Yeah, it's blatantly obvious that Dawkins just really needs a good, hard, long wank. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/50192-a-universe-of-nothing/#findComment-1153716 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lumpenprol Posted October 27, 2009 Report Share Posted October 27, 2009 Once Dawkins shuts up this is actually a damn good video (though Krauss shares Dawkin's tendency to take smug potshots at religion) Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide lumpenprol's signature Hide all signatures After this I listened to geogaddi and I didn't like it, I was quite vomitting at some tracks, I realized they were too crazy for my ears, they took too much acid to play music I stupidly thought (cliché of psyché music) But I knew this album was a kind of big forest where I just wasn't able to go inside. - lost cloud I was in US tjis summer, and eat in KFC. FUCK That's the worst thing i've ever eaten. The flesh simply doesn't cleave to the bones. Battery ferming. And then, foie gras is banned from NY state, because it's considered as ill-treat. IT'S NOT. KFC is tourist ill-treat. YOU POISONERS! Two hours after being to KFC, i stopped in a amsih little town barf all that KFC shit out. Nice work! So i hope this woman is not like kfc chicken, otherwise she'll be pulled to pieces. -organized confused project Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/50192-a-universe-of-nothing/#findComment-1153745 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest theSun Posted October 27, 2009 Report Share Posted October 27, 2009 it's silly when the most respected scientists shit on religion. it's like, if you're a scientist that uses the scientific method, the very notion of faith is insulting to your profession, why do you have to even dignify religion (dualism) as being part of the same thing? one method explains stuff from an observational, reproduce-able, research based method, the other is "believing" that a story is true, which may contain no observations or replicable results. seems like dawkins helps to legitimize religion by offering it as an alternative means for explanation. just putting it in the same room as science is silly. he should just explain things as he knows how to explain them and keep his blunt wit in the closet. can't wait to go home and watch the whole thing though, i enjoy listening to dawkins the majority of the time. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/50192-a-universe-of-nothing/#findComment-1153826 Share on other sites More sharing options...
patternoverlap Posted October 27, 2009 Report Share Posted October 27, 2009 the potshots keep them in the limelight though. it's mostly showbiz, if you ask me. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide patternoverlap's signature Hide all signatures New Prints Available Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/50192-a-universe-of-nothing/#findComment-1153954 Share on other sites More sharing options...
karmakramer Posted October 27, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 27, 2009 Yeah sorry about the title fuck up... I was up at 5-6 AM in the morning watching this and was very out of it/high Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/50192-a-universe-of-nothing/#findComment-1154043 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaini Posted October 27, 2009 Report Share Posted October 27, 2009 krauss is great, but dawkins has done nothing but a disservice to people who love science why? because he's a prick. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide kaini's signature Hide all signatures On 5/7/2013 at 11:06 PM, ambermonk said: I know IDM can be extreme On 6/3/2017 at 11:50 PM, ladalaika said: this sounds like an airplane landing on a minefield Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/50192-a-universe-of-nothing/#findComment-1154074 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gary C Posted October 27, 2009 Report Share Posted October 27, 2009 I don't have anything particularly against Dawkins (he has become the media-face that Atheism needed), but then I never got even half-way through The God Delusion. Carl Sagan on the other hand makes me wee, and although not as poetic, Krauss was entertaining. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/50192-a-universe-of-nothing/#findComment-1154086 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blir Posted October 28, 2009 Report Share Posted October 28, 2009 I think a lot of WATMM would appreciate this: http://www.youtube.com/user/Zuke696 Check out the playlists, lots of awesome science documentaries. Plus Carl Sagan docs, which I have still never watched. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/50192-a-universe-of-nothing/#findComment-1154092 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atop Posted October 28, 2009 Report Share Posted October 28, 2009 Great lecture karma! Ooohh... gave me the chills a couple of times... being anti-dogmatist, it set well with me, pretty much proving anything is possible.... *goes to link this to all people* Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Atop's signature Hide all signatures music by ATOPdj mixes by ATOP https://woodbetweenworlds.bandcamp.com/album/777 https://auralcanyonmusic.bandcamp.com/album/once-i-was-as-you-are-now Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/50192-a-universe-of-nothing/#findComment-1154159 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaini Posted October 28, 2009 Report Share Posted October 28, 2009 On 10/27/2009 at 11:58 PM, Gary C said: I don't have anything particularly against Dawkins (he has become the media-face that Atheism needed), but then I never got even half-way through The God Delusion. Carl Sagan on the other hand makes me wee, and although not as poetic, Krauss was entertaining. regardless of if you're correct or not, you will always have a hard time getting people warm to your ideas if you're a smug dick. on sagan, spot on. the man was a poet, who could get people excited about this stuff through his amazing descriptions and analogies, and his choice of words. we need more humble people like carl, and less smug pricks like dawkins. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lOyP44Xu5FA Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide kaini's signature Hide all signatures On 5/7/2013 at 11:06 PM, ambermonk said: I know IDM can be extreme On 6/3/2017 at 11:50 PM, ladalaika said: this sounds like an airplane landing on a minefield Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/50192-a-universe-of-nothing/#findComment-1154162 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lumpenprol Posted October 28, 2009 Report Share Posted October 28, 2009 just finished the original Krauss vid, I did get chills at the end, as with that short story that was posted here about the eventual death of the universe from entropy. It never occurred to me that the universe can accelerate away from us at faster than the speed of light, which means in the far, far future observers will see our galaxy in the middle of nothingness, with no evidence of the big bang or other galaxies...that's extremely disturbing. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide lumpenprol's signature Hide all signatures After this I listened to geogaddi and I didn't like it, I was quite vomitting at some tracks, I realized they were too crazy for my ears, they took too much acid to play music I stupidly thought (cliché of psyché music) But I knew this album was a kind of big forest where I just wasn't able to go inside. - lost cloud I was in US tjis summer, and eat in KFC. FUCK That's the worst thing i've ever eaten. The flesh simply doesn't cleave to the bones. Battery ferming. And then, foie gras is banned from NY state, because it's considered as ill-treat. IT'S NOT. KFC is tourist ill-treat. YOU POISONERS! Two hours after being to KFC, i stopped in a amsih little town barf all that KFC shit out. Nice work! So i hope this woman is not like kfc chicken, otherwise she'll be pulled to pieces. -organized confused project Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/50192-a-universe-of-nothing/#findComment-1154234 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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