What do you think Rich's unreleased tracks from Daddy/Windowlicker to Analord sounded like?

I remember going to see Aphex live in Glasgow just before the release of Come to Daddy. What a great night! I recall a live version of Come to Daddy stuff from Girl Boy and I care.. I also recall a track repeating the words 'Ugly Baby!' giving the impression that this would be the likely title to said track which of course never got released... anyone else ever heard this track from live sets back in the early 90's ?

I want that hidden track in Bwoon dub around 03:45. I was hearing that track in a dream and it was geting better and better and then I woke up

  On 12/18/2009 at 5:36 PM, Joyrex said:

  On 12/16/2009 at 6:29 AM, Candiru said:

Perc # 6. Currently soulseeking the shit out of it as I'm pretty happy to be hearing about an Aphex track previously unavailable to my ears.

 

Prepare to be disappointed.

Indeed I was.

i thought perc #6 was really cool when i first heard it. pretty much sounds like nothing else hes released. Kind of a slow experimental song but with the production style of windowlicker era stuff.

I think Perc #6 was made with a program called CDP and was featured on a CD of compositions made with the program. Im not sure.

CDP is a weird program, you have to do like a bank wire transfer to purchase it from this ghetto ass looking website. I was tempted to buy it before when richard devine said he loved using it, but when i spoke to richard devine in person about it he seemed to know little to nothing about it. It's probably the most mysterious high level sound DSP program out there right now next to PD, and Super Collider

  On 12/19/2009 at 10:39 PM, Awepittance said:

CDP is a weird program, you have to do like a bank wire transfer to purchase it from this ghetto ass looking website. I was tempted to buy it before when richard devine said he loved using it, but when i spoke to richard devine in person about it he seemed to know little to nothing about it. It's probably the most mysterious high level sound DSP program out there right now next to PD, and Super Collider

Interresting

  On 12/19/2009 at 9:43 PM, marf said:

I think Perc #6 was made with a program called CDP and was featured on a CD of compositions made with the program. Im not sure.

  On 12/19/2009 at 10:39 PM, Awepittance said:

CDP is a weird program, you have to do like a bank wire transfer to purchase it from this ghetto ass looking website. I was tempted to buy it before when richard devine said he loved using it, but when i spoke to richard devine in person about it he seemed to know little to nothing about it. It's probably the most mysterious high level sound DSP program out there right now next to PD, and Super Collider

I don't think PD and Super Collider are all that mysterious since they're both open-source.

I hadn't heard of CDP before but after visiting their website, I think ghetto is definitely the right term.

http://www.composersdesktop.com/pdf/slinfopgnew.pdf

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The Music Calculator is a handy tool for converting between the many different kinds of data values used in computer music. It also functions as a normal calculator.

that shit has some mad SVGA goin on

  On 12/21/2009 at 4:23 AM, The Face Culler said:

  On 12/19/2009 at 10:39 PM, Awepittance said:

CDP is a weird program, you have to do like a bank wire transfer to purchase it from this ghetto ass looking website. I was tempted to buy it before when richard devine said he loved using it, but when i spoke to richard devine in person about it he seemed to know little to nothing about it. It's probably the most mysterious high level sound DSP program out there right now next to PD, and Super Collider

 

I don't think PD and Super Collider are all that mysterious since they're both open-source.

well good point, but people like Cylob are really mysterious to me, like how in the fucking hell do you write such beautiful music making programs all with code

They are on the more obscure end of the spectrum , but if we're talking unreachably mysterious (due to financial or other circumstances) id say probably only 2nd to Kyma

would love to get ahold of the program though it just seems like a risky investment, the website as you said is pretty well 1995

  On 12/19/2009 at 10:39 PM, Awepittance said:

CDP is a weird program, you have to do like a bank wire transfer to purchase it from this ghetto ass looking website. I was tempted to buy it before when richard devine said he loved using it, but when i spoke to richard devine in person about it he seemed to know little to nothing about it. It's probably the most mysterious high level sound DSP program out there right now next to PD, and Super Collider

I've been interested in buying this for the last few months ever since I got into Trevor Wishart and read his book 'Audible Design', which demonstrates a wide range of advanced DSP techniques, complete with audio examples and great documentation. It's pretty expensive, but this is knowledge that is hard to find elsewhere. Anywho, CDP is the program that Trevor has cobbled together in his own custom manner to suit his imaginative DSP needs.

As a dedicated and talented DSP composer you owe it to yourself to check out his book, if you haven't read it.

I bought CDP. Archer is a stand up guy and there is nothing sketchy about the company. They are just academic types. You get manuals, physical and html. You get cd's and great email support. Soundshaper and soundloom are the two guis built on top of cdp. You can choose one or the other. Soundloom is the free one and I like the interface better. Its the one trevor made.

I recommend cdp over max and SC or PD if you are not a physics and computer programming genius. CDP has a ton of sound processing algorithms already made up. You can get shit loads of sample material with this program. It has millions of ways to make new sounds right out of the box. The only challenge is learning the interface of either GUIs.They are not terribly friendly. The installation is strange and the help files are cryptic . There doesn't seem to be a base point for learning the programs. Everything is kind of sloppy in that area, but it won't take long to get way more out of cdp than you could sc or max cause there is so much sound manipulation programs already there and it doesn't take much to get a huge variation in sounds. Plus i like that its non real time, too.

I need to get Audible Design

  On 12/21/2009 at 7:12 PM, marf said:

I bought CDP. Archer is a stand up guy and there is nothing sketchy about the company. They are just academic types. You get manuals, physical and html. You get cd's and great email support. Soundshaper and soundloom are the two guis built on top of cdp. You can choose one or the other. Soundloom is the free one and I like the interface better. Its the one trevor made.

 

I recommend cdp over max and SC or PD if you are not a physics and computer programming genius. CDP has a ton of sound processing algorithms already made up. You can get shit loads of sample material with this program. It has millions of ways to make new sounds right out of the box. The only challenge is learning the interface of either GUIs.They are not terribly friendly. The installation is strange and the help files are cryptic . There doesn't seem to be a base point for learning the programs. Everything is kind of sloppy in that area, but it won't take long to get way more out of cdp than you could sc or max cause there is so much sound manipulation programs already there and it doesn't take much to get a huge variation in sounds. Plus i like that its non real time, too.

what about reaktor? Is it totally different?

  On 12/22/2009 at 10:27 AM, o00o said:

  On 12/21/2009 at 7:12 PM, marf said:

 

 

I recommend cdp over max and SC or PD if you are not a physics and computer programming genius. CDP has a ton of sound processing algorithms already made up.

 

what about reaktor? Is it totally different?

you could probably if you were patient enough remake a lot or even all of what cdp does in sc ( going from the techniques described in audible design at least ), not saying u should obviously cos u could just buy cdp,just that they're not really comparable things.

There is a list somewhere of all the sound transformations you can do with CDP I imagine. I think its more extensive than the other prgrams, but Im sure there are benefits to the other programs too. CDP is not real time. So you also have effects you could never do with other programs, but you can't play with sliders until after you hear the end result. So you aren't really jamming. SC and Max are great though. Just different for different things.. I guess Kyma is close to cdp. Even though again you have to build stuff and IM not that smart when it comes to programming. Also, I don't really like the way kyma sounds.

wall bird, you want sell your book to me?

It probably sounded like Smojphace

  On 12/21/2009 at 7:07 AM, Wall Bird said:

  On 12/19/2009 at 10:39 PM, Awepittance said:

CDP is a weird program, you have to do like a bank wire transfer to purchase it from this ghetto ass looking website. I was tempted to buy it before when richard devine said he loved using it, but when i spoke to richard devine in person about it he seemed to know little to nothing about it. It's probably the most mysterious high level sound DSP program out there right now next to PD, and Super Collider

 

I've been interested in buying this for the last few months ever since I got into Trevor Wishart and read his book 'Audible Design', which demonstrates a wide range of advanced DSP techniques, complete with audio examples and great documentation. It's pretty expensive, but this is knowledge that is hard to find elsewhere. Anywho, CDP is the program that Trevor has cobbled together in his own custom manner to suit his imaginative DSP needs.

 

As a dedicated and talented DSP composer you owe it to yourself to check out his book, if you haven't read it.

sounds neat, i got a chance to see him play a live set in san francisco right after my interest was piqued for CDP, it was very enjoyable like human vocal morphing sound scapes.

how much did it cost marf? and did you have to do a bank wire transfer? hehe

being a non-musician, i know nothing about CDP but on the OR compilation, there is this really nice track by Trevor Wishart "Fabulous Paris".

I think its cost around $265. Can't remember. I think I did do a wire transfer. I think. They are very trust worthy. He sent me the wrong install CD. One for mac, and he apologized (archer) by sending me a cd of workshops and the proper PC install CD. Lots of reading material. Nice guy. Its not hard to get help from them. I needed it on the install too. Its fairly confusing. . Soundshaper for the pro version costs extra. So Im using soundloom which is on trevors site. I haven't fully grasped the prgram as I need to really sit down with the help files