post rock

yeah i guess youre right. post rock rarely has lyrics, among some other differences

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i remember hearing gybe like 7 years ago and i was meh. i think differently now.

  On 1/8/2010 at 3:20 AM, Z_B_Z said:

the singing got out of hand imo

nah singing is what song is about

i prefer efrim to vic chesnutt (rip) anyways

i cringed at the "straight up angels in the electric chair" lyric.. the singing isnt bad per se.. its just that i like their earlier releases better.

  On 1/8/2010 at 5:34 PM, kokoon said:

i remember hearing gybe like 7 years ago and i was meh. i think differently now.

I heard of them about 7 years ago and only got around to listening to an album last year (Lift Yr. Skinny Fists...). Still haven't gotten to disc 2, and have only played disc 1 once. This music takes much patience.

the side of post-rock that i like tends toward tortoise, stereolab and jaga jazzist... don't care for gy!be or arguably similar bands

  On 1/8/2010 at 7:17 PM, IRARI said:

the side of post-rock that i like tends toward tortoise, stereolab and jaga jazzist... don't care for gy!be or arguably similar bands

so basically you like some bands with some vague commonality and not so much some other completely different bands but you're lumping them all together under a meaningless umbrella term anyway ?

i would say the epitome of what the term post rock was coined to describe is mid 90s kraut music like to rococo rot, kreidler, tarwater and tortoise and the pajo offshoots...

someone described post rock earlier in this thread as anything quiet quiet quiet LoUD REALLY LOUD quiet again

which kind of included meat loaf ballads so yeah

  On 1/8/2010 at 7:33 PM, LUDD said:

  On 1/8/2010 at 7:17 PM, IRARI said:

the side of post-rock that i like tends toward tortoise, stereolab and jaga jazzist... don't care for gy!be or arguably similar bands

 

 

 

so basically you like some bands with some vague commonality and not so much some other completely different bands but you're lumping them all together under a meaningless umbrella term anyway ?

no but you are a certifiable faggot

post rock done well is some of the most moving music out there IMO.

post rock done OK is complete shit.

Anyone else heard either of these? They're my two favourite 'post-rock' albums. Check em out.

Jakob - Solace

The Evpatoria Report - Golevka

  On 1/8/2010 at 7:42 PM, IRARI said:

  On 1/8/2010 at 7:33 PM, LUDD said:

  On 1/8/2010 at 7:17 PM, IRARI said:

the side of post-rock that i like tends toward tortoise, stereolab and jaga jazzist... don't care for gy!be or arguably similar bands

 

 

 

so basically you like some bands with some vague commonality and not so much some other completely different bands but you're lumping them all together under a meaningless umbrella term anyway ?

 

no but you are a certifiable faggot

homophobe

The term Post rock was first popularised in referring to the Louisville bands in the early 90s by the UK music press, though no doubt it had been a phrase knocking about since the 80s and the postmodern trend of prefxing everything with post-.

Slint

Rodan

Rachel's

June of 44

The Sonora Pine

You could even include the first Palace Brothers album in there. (Will Oldham took the Spiderland cover image, and Slint were effectively his backing band on the first album)

Spiderland was hugely influential in the UK, if the number of times it was name dropped is indicative of its seminal status. PJ Harvey mentioned it in just about every interview in 92-93. No Spiderland, no Mogwai and countless others. I think anybody who dismisses it probably didn't hear it at the time and is seeing it through a haze of 20 years of imitators.

A year or so later I heard SAW. Bearing in mind AFX was providing the soundtrack for the Clothes Show at the time, Spiderland was much the more 'out there' record within the context of the UK in the early 90s.

All the 'post-rock' stuff I think of as being from my stoner teenage years, but I still love a lot of it even if I don't tend to listen to it much anymore.

Godspeed's Slow Riot For New Zero Kanada EP is really good. Lift Your Skinny Fists is also good, but I think the second disk is better (it has a really good climactic beat on it, with the guy rambling on about Coney Island). I also love the speech at the start of F#A#, the one about "the car is on fire. There is no driver at the wheel. The rivers are all bloodied with a thousand lonely suicides", or something to that effect.

Explosions - all right, overrated. I saw them live and was distinctly underwhelmed. Faust were supporting and they were much better.

Sigur Ros - Agaetis Byrjun and brackets are excellent, and they are also seriously good live.

Silver Mt Zion, great although I agree the lyrics can often veer far into pretentiousness. Don't want to sound like a broken record but I've also seen them live (in a pub in Manchester! Even met the violin player and guitarist afterwards), and that was one of the best gigs I've ever been to.

  On 1/8/2010 at 10:31 PM, kakapo said:

Spiderland was hugely influential in the UK, if the number of times it was name dropped is indicative of its seminal status. PJ Harvey mentioned it in just about every interview in 92-93. No Spiderland, no Mogwai and countless others. I think anybody who dismisses it probably didn't hear it at the time and is seeing it through a haze of 20 years of imitators.

the most important (rock) record of the decade (along with Codeine's frigid stars imo)

  On 1/8/2010 at 11:23 PM, LUDD said:

  On 1/8/2010 at 10:31 PM, kakapo said:

Spiderland was hugely influential in the UK, if the number of times it was name dropped is indicative of its seminal status. PJ Harvey mentioned it in just about every interview in 92-93. No Spiderland, no Mogwai and countless others. I think anybody who dismisses it probably didn't hear it at the time and is seeing it through a haze of 20 years of imitators.

 

the most important (rock) record of the decade (along with Codeine's frigid stars imo)

I wouldn't argue with that. I was the first person in my school to get a copy, early '93, on vinyl. I read about it in some obscure low circulation mag, took me weeks to track down, had no real reference other than 'American alternative rock' which up to that point meant Seattle, the Afghan whigs, Come and Codeine (Barely Real). I can still rememebr my first listen in detail. I immediately made a handful of copies for friends, and before long the older cooler kids who were in bands were surreptitiously stopping me in the corridor to ask for tapes of Spiderland. Kid's these days don't know what they're missing, with their instantly accessible 'culture'. And considering the 'History of the 00's' on the BBC this week referred to those born in the 70's or earlier('79 for me) as the older generation, suggesting that I'm some dithering old bastard who can't work out these new fangled mobile phone things, I'm allowed to say that without any hint of irony.

spiderland will be remembered as a classic and deservedly.

it all got a bit samey as time went on. hard to tell if you're listening to a late-period mono or explosions in the sky or 65DoS track.

mogwai used be great but now all their albums sound the same.

i still love tortoise, i wish they would be a backing band for more artists like the coupla tracks with buck 65 and will oldham.

and gybe had their moments, although splitting was the right thing to do for them rly.

edit: also, post-rock is a wretched name for a genre. much like the name of the genre dubstep, it's so wanky that it almost obscures the fact there's some good music in them thar hills.

  On 1/8/2010 at 11:59 PM, kakapo said:

  On 1/8/2010 at 11:23 PM, LUDD said:

  On 1/8/2010 at 10:31 PM, kakapo said:

Spiderland was hugely influential in the UK, if the number of times it was name dropped is indicative of its seminal status. PJ Harvey mentioned it in just about every interview in 92-93. No Spiderland, no Mogwai and countless others. I think anybody who dismisses it probably didn't hear it at the time and is seeing it through a haze of 20 years of imitators.

 

the most important (rock) record of the decade (along with Codeine's frigid stars imo)

 

I wouldn't argue with that. I was the first person in my school to get a copy, early '93, on vinyl. I read about it in some obscure low circulation mag, took me weeks to track down, had no real reference other than 'American alternative rock' which up to that point meant Seattle, the Afghan whigs, Come and Codeine (Barely Real). I can still rememebr my first listen in detail. I immediately made a handful of copies for friends, and before long the older cooler kids who were in bands were surreptitiously stopping me in the corridor to ask for tapes of Spiderland. Kid's these days don't know what they're missing, with their instantly accessible 'culture'. And considering the 'History of the 00's' on the BBC this week referred to those born in the 70's or earlier('79 for me) as the older generation, suggesting that I'm some dithering old bastard who can't work out these new fangled mobile phone things, I'm allowed to say that without any hint of irony.

i can clearly remember hearing (and taping) good morning captain off of john peel in 91. for some reason i didnt hear the name of the track or artist (presumably he said it before it started and i wasn't paying attention). i snapped up all the bitch magnet i could find hoping that it was them as they were the most similar sounding band i knew (i was in love with their masterpiece Ben Hur at the time (still am)). unfortunately, after picking up umber and star booty and not finding the track i wondered if i'd ever find out who it was. then not long after my mate played me spiderland and i remember completely freaking the moment the bass and drums kicked in on good morning captain which is where my taped copy began. spiderland, frigid stars and ben hur are the holy trinity to me.

np: slint - good morning captain

  On 1/7/2010 at 11:59 PM, sidewinder said:

Hmm. What could post-IDM be? Perhaps glitch-hop, or wonk?

your on to something there, maybe.

you're

i can't believe there's a post-rock thread with no mention of talk talk and related projects. these albums are absolutely essential for post-rock fans:

talk talk - laughing stock

o rang - fields and waves

heligoland - pitcher, flask & foxy moxie

bark psychosis - codename: dustsucker

yeah talk talk is excellent. id say hex before dustsucker

yes yes;

the colour of spring

then spirit of eden

then laughing stock

then mark hollis

i love the very very clear thread of musical evolution you get over those four.

i don't really class talk talk as post-rock even though they were well ahead of their time - the first time i ever even considered that fact is when i read it in the wiki article that they invented it.

nonsense... talk talk are just talk talk to me. no-one else is remotely like them

  On 1/9/2010 at 12:55 AM, LUDD said:

  On 1/8/2010 at 11:59 PM, kakapo said:

  On 1/8/2010 at 11:23 PM, LUDD said:

  On 1/8/2010 at 10:31 PM, kakapo said:

Spiderland was hugely influential in the UK, if the number of times it was name dropped is indicative of its seminal status. PJ Harvey mentioned it in just about every interview in 92-93. No Spiderland, no Mogwai and countless others. I think anybody who dismisses it probably didn't hear it at the time and is seeing it through a haze of 20 years of imitators.

the most important (rock) record of the decade (along with Codeine's frigid stars imo)

I wouldn't argue with that. I was the first person in my school to get a copy, early '93, on vinyl. I read about it in some obscure low circulation mag, took me weeks to track down, had no real reference other than 'American alternative rock' which up to that point meant Seattle, the Afghan whigs, Come and Codeine (Barely Real). I can still rememebr my first listen in detail. I immediately made a handful of copies for friends, and before long the older cooler kids who were in bands were surreptitiously stopping me in the corridor to ask for tapes of Spiderland. Kid's these days don't know what they're missing, with their instantly accessible 'culture'. And considering the 'History of the 00's' on the BBC this week referred to those born in the 70's or earlier('79 for me) as the older generation, suggesting that I'm some dithering old bastard who can't work out these new fangled mobile phone things, I'm allowed to say that without any hint of irony.

i can clearly remember hearing (and taping) good morning captain off of john peel in 91. for some reason i didnt hear the name of the track or artist (presumably he said it before it started and i wasn't paying attention). i snapped up all the bitch magnet i could find hoping that it was them as they were the most similar sounding band i knew (i was in love with their masterpiece Ben Hur at the time (still am)). unfortunately, after picking up umber and star booty and not finding the track i wondered if i'd ever find out who it was. then not long after my mate played me spiderland and i remember completely freaking the moment the bass and drums kicked in on good morning captain which is where my taped copy began. spiderland, frigid stars and ben hur are the holy trinity to me.np: slint - good morning captain

That had to be frustrating, looking for the song when now you can just look up playlists online. Ben Hur sounds like a very underrated band, and looks Albini produced them as he did Slint. "Good Morning Captain" is beyond epic.

  On 1/9/2010 at 12:57 AM, LUDD said:

you're

Well damn it.