Atop Posted January 27, 2010 Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 Rabbi Scott: I am the junior rabbi. And it's true, the point-of-view of somebody who's older and perhaps had similar problems might be more valid. And you should see the senior rabbi as well, by all means. Or even Minda if you can get in, he's quite busy. But maybe - can I share something with you? Because I too have had the feeling of losing track of Hashem, which is the problem here. I too have forgotten how to see Him in the world. And when that happens you think, well, if I can't see Him, He isn't there any more, He's gone. But that's not the case. You just need to remember how to see Him. Am I right? [He rises and goes to the window] Rabbi Scott: I mean, the parking lot here. Not much to see. It is a different angle on the same parking lot we saw from the Hebrew school window. But if you imagine yourself a visitor, somebody who isn't familiar with these... autos and such... somebody still with a capacity for wonder... Someone with a fresh... perspective. That's what it is, Larry. Larry Gopnik: Um... Rabbi Scott: Because with the right perspective you can see Hashem, you know, reaching into the world. He is in the world, not just in shul. It sounds to me like you're looking at the world, looking at your wife, through tired eyes. It sounds like she's become a sort of... thing... a problem... a thing... Larry Gopnik: Well, she's, she's seeing Sy Ableman. Rabbi Scott: Oh. Larry Gopnik: She's, they're planning, that's why they want the Gett. Rabbi Scott: Oh. I'm sorry. Larry Gopnik: It was his idea. Rabbi Scott: Well, they do need a Gett to remarry in the faith. But this is life. For you too. You can't cut yourself off from the mystical or you'll be-you'll remain-completely lost. You have to see these things as expressions of God's will. You don't have to like it, of course. Larry Gopnik: The boss isn't always right, but he's always the boss. Rabbi Scott: Ha-ha-ha! That's right, things aren't so bad. Look at the parking lot, Larry. [Rabbi Scott gazes out, marveling] Rabbi Scott: Just look at that parking lot. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Atop's signature Hide all signatures music by ATOPdj mixes by ATOP https://woodbetweenworlds.bandcamp.com/album/777 https://auralcanyonmusic.bandcamp.com/album/once-i-was-as-you-are-now Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/52707-where-do-you-find-meaning-in-life/page/7/#findComment-1224937 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SR4 Posted January 27, 2010 Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 that's where my personal philosophy conflicts with buddhism, i feel that you need to experience suffering just as much as happiness or peace, you have to get a 100% picture. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide SR4's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/52707-where-do-you-find-meaning-in-life/page/7/#findComment-1224939 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Z_B_Z Posted January 27, 2010 Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 i dont think you need to experience suffering, but with our existence being what it is, its an inevitability. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/52707-where-do-you-find-meaning-in-life/page/7/#findComment-1224941 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atop Posted January 27, 2010 Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 Buddha did it... Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Atop's signature Hide all signatures music by ATOPdj mixes by ATOP https://woodbetweenworlds.bandcamp.com/album/777 https://auralcanyonmusic.bandcamp.com/album/once-i-was-as-you-are-now Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/52707-where-do-you-find-meaning-in-life/page/7/#findComment-1224942 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rambo Posted January 27, 2010 Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 "if you meet the Buddha on the path, slay him." - Boy George 1993 Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/52707-where-do-you-find-meaning-in-life/page/7/#findComment-1224944 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Z_B_Z Posted January 27, 2010 Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 yeah he got wiser after the heroin Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/52707-where-do-you-find-meaning-in-life/page/7/#findComment-1224946 Share on other sites More sharing options...
karmakramer Posted January 27, 2010 Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 haha Atop, thats the first thing I thought of when I made my first post a page back Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/52707-where-do-you-find-meaning-in-life/page/7/#findComment-1224951 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atop Posted January 27, 2010 Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 hell yeah! Love the mystery.... Expect the random.... Play nice.... Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Atop's signature Hide all signatures music by ATOPdj mixes by ATOP https://woodbetweenworlds.bandcamp.com/album/777 https://auralcanyonmusic.bandcamp.com/album/once-i-was-as-you-are-now Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/52707-where-do-you-find-meaning-in-life/page/7/#findComment-1224956 Share on other sites More sharing options...
thief Posted January 27, 2010 Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/52707-where-do-you-find-meaning-in-life/page/7/#findComment-1224958 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atop Posted January 27, 2010 Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Atop's signature Hide all signatures music by ATOPdj mixes by ATOP https://woodbetweenworlds.bandcamp.com/album/777 https://auralcanyonmusic.bandcamp.com/album/once-i-was-as-you-are-now Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/52707-where-do-you-find-meaning-in-life/page/7/#findComment-1224959 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atop Posted January 27, 2010 Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Atop's signature Hide all signatures music by ATOPdj mixes by ATOP https://woodbetweenworlds.bandcamp.com/album/777 https://auralcanyonmusic.bandcamp.com/album/once-i-was-as-you-are-now Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/52707-where-do-you-find-meaning-in-life/page/7/#findComment-1224962 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chenGOD Posted January 27, 2010 Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 On 1/27/2010 at 3:05 AM, Smettingham Rutherford IV said: that's where my personal philosophy conflicts with buddhism, i feel that you need to experience suffering just as much as happiness or peace, you have to get a 100% picture. Such a dualist!! lol Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide all signatures 백호야~~~항상에 사랑할거예요.나의 아들. Shout outs to the saracens, musulmen and celestials. Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/52707-where-do-you-find-meaning-in-life/page/7/#findComment-1224973 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atop Posted January 27, 2010 Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 Sort of NSFW Reveal hidden contents Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Atop's signature Hide all signatures music by ATOPdj mixes by ATOP https://woodbetweenworlds.bandcamp.com/album/777 https://auralcanyonmusic.bandcamp.com/album/once-i-was-as-you-are-now Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/52707-where-do-you-find-meaning-in-life/page/7/#findComment-1224981 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SR4 Posted January 27, 2010 Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 On 1/27/2010 at 3:31 AM, chenGOD said: On 1/27/2010 at 3:05 AM, Smettingham Rutherford IV said: that's where my personal philosophy conflicts with buddhism, i feel that you need to experience suffering just as much as happiness or peace, you have to get a 100% picture. Such a dualist!! lol hahaha absolutely...oddly enough the only time I feel like I have made stride is when I am constantly in conflict with my own ideas. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide SR4's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/52707-where-do-you-find-meaning-in-life/page/7/#findComment-1224985 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atop Posted January 27, 2010 Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 (edited) ahh Geminis.... edit: Aries... Edited January 27, 2010 by Atop Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Atop's signature Hide all signatures music by ATOPdj mixes by ATOP https://woodbetweenworlds.bandcamp.com/album/777 https://auralcanyonmusic.bandcamp.com/album/once-i-was-as-you-are-now Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/52707-where-do-you-find-meaning-in-life/page/7/#findComment-1224999 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SR4 Posted January 27, 2010 Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 lol what? Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide SR4's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/52707-where-do-you-find-meaning-in-life/page/7/#findComment-1225003 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atop Posted January 27, 2010 Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 nothing Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Atop's signature Hide all signatures music by ATOPdj mixes by ATOP https://woodbetweenworlds.bandcamp.com/album/777 https://auralcanyonmusic.bandcamp.com/album/once-i-was-as-you-are-now Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/52707-where-do-you-find-meaning-in-life/page/7/#findComment-1225004 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rambo Posted January 27, 2010 Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 On 1/27/2010 at 3:01 AM, Z_B_Z said: im starting to sound condescending so i think ive said enough about this vague subject it honestly doesnt have to be vague, it'll be extremely clear sooner or later. I've come back to a book or a video on this 2 years later and heard the exact same thing completely differently and the reason is that the brain is fighting for survival as the king on the throne so to speak. There's a significant part of most people that totally hates this. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/52707-where-do-you-find-meaning-in-life/page/7/#findComment-1225007 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Z_B_Z Posted January 27, 2010 Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 i just said vague because its difficult to talk about without sounding vague. i mean, we're far from science and logic in this particular territory.. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/52707-where-do-you-find-meaning-in-life/page/7/#findComment-1225010 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rambo Posted January 27, 2010 Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 i don't know to be completely honest Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/52707-where-do-you-find-meaning-in-life/page/7/#findComment-1225022 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SR4 Posted January 27, 2010 Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 On 1/27/2010 at 3:56 AM, Z_B_Z said: i just said vague because its difficult to talk about without sounding vague. i mean, we're far from science and logic in this particular territory.. that's the magic of it all though, isn't it? the simplest of things said ring most true, but our brain is determined to break it down so thoroughly and subjectively that it can 100% cultivate it to its own advantage, or survival...i dunno, i really think humans are hardwired to think this way, its like, there is a portrait, and we all stare at it and discuss the same picture, yet every so often, somehow, the painting is nudged, or moved around, and we suddenly get an immensely different view of what is essentially the same thing. GAAAHHHHH see, i am as guilty of trying to quantify and define it as any other human. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide SR4's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/52707-where-do-you-find-meaning-in-life/page/7/#findComment-1225025 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atop Posted January 27, 2010 Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 I feel that whatever people believe, i.e. faith in anything (science, religion, ideas), allows that person to experience effects of what they believe in... Hence the problems felt between different schools of thought.... If someone believes strongly enough in something and they see evidence of it being true, they tend to think it is true for everyone else.... Synchronicity is the proof for myself to see whatever I am really into effecting my life.... as above so below/macrocosm-microcosm/parallel universes mirroring one another maybe.... Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Atop's signature Hide all signatures music by ATOPdj mixes by ATOP https://woodbetweenworlds.bandcamp.com/album/777 https://auralcanyonmusic.bandcamp.com/album/once-i-was-as-you-are-now Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/52707-where-do-you-find-meaning-in-life/page/7/#findComment-1225031 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chenGOD Posted January 27, 2010 Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 I find meaning and comfort in the fart chamber. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide all signatures 백호야~~~항상에 사랑할거예요.나의 아들. Shout outs to the saracens, musulmen and celestials. Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/52707-where-do-you-find-meaning-in-life/page/7/#findComment-1225034 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rambo Posted January 27, 2010 Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 *deep voice* in the fart chamber... there are no rules Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/52707-where-do-you-find-meaning-in-life/page/7/#findComment-1225036 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Z_B_Z Posted January 27, 2010 Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 (edited) its difficult because when anyone tries talk about these things its like trying to quantify the unquantifiable.. it makes you realize how incredibly feeble words and language can be.. "the map is not the territory" also it can be easy to disappear up your own ass when it comes to "airy fairy" subjects.. something ive been guilty of in the past.. at the end of the day, mystery is just as important as meaning Quote “If you think you know what the hell is going on, you're probably full of shit.” - robert anton wilson Edited January 27, 2010 by Z_B_Z Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/52707-where-do-you-find-meaning-in-life/page/7/#findComment-1225038 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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