Guest IRARI Posted February 20, 2010 Report Share Posted February 20, 2010 Quote Faster, Faster!Google's brilliant new plan to provide super-speedy Internet access. By Farhad Manjoo Posted Thursday, Feb. 18, 2010, at 5:00 PM ET Last week, Google announced that it plans to launch an "experimental" broadband network in several cities across the country. In other words, Google will become an ISP—it will provide Internet access to a small number of customers (50,000 to 500,000, depending on the cities it chooses), serving as an alternative to the broadband service offered by phone and cable companies. The news itself wasn't much of a surprise. For years, Google has been buying up "dark fiber"—extremely fast fiber-optic lines that were built during the Internet boom of the late '90s and had since been lying fallow—and observers had expected that the search company would do something with it soon. Still, the scale of Google's plans is shocking. The company wants to build home Internet connections that run at 1 gigabit per second. That's 100 or 200 times faster than the connection you're using to read this story. Why is Google doing this? Because its future depends on better broadband. Like all Web firms, everything Google does goes through other people's lines. What's worse, the companies that run those lines have shown little interest in innovation. Most things in Google's orbit advance at a breakneck pace—computers keep getting faster, hard drives keep getting bigger, software keeps getting better. But broadband is static; it's not getting much faster, cheaper, or more widespread. Broadband—especially broadband in America—is Google's limiting factor. The company has been trying to fix American broadband for years. Google successfully lobbied the FCC to impose "open access" policies on next-generation mobile connections and has been pushing for the government to use "white spaces"—the radio spectrum in between old analog broadcast TV channels—for wireless Internet. But Google's efforts to revolutionize broadband haven't been especially successful. It had high hopes for municipal Wi-Fi systems, but many cities abandoned those plans after the firms responsible for a few dozen networks bungled the roll-out and eventually pulled the plug. (Google still provides free Wi-Fi access in its home city of Mountain View, Calif.). Google's plan to circumvent wireless carries by selling its Nexus One phone directly to consumers also doesn't look like it's going to hurt the telecom industry very much. According to one estimate, Google sold only 20,000 Nexus Ones in its first week (Verizon's Droid saw 250,000 first-week sales, while sales of the AT&T-exclusive iPhone 3GS topped 1.6 million). Google's decision to operate an ISP is not something a normal business would do. The company admits that in the long run, it doesn't want to be in the business of providing Internet service. It wants to show customers the promise of high-speed Internet, but it understandably doesn't want to deal with the headaches of the ISP business like customer service and tech support. This is sort of like if I ran a (very profitable) company that made travel pillows and decided to launch my own airline to prove to existing carriers that they needed to do better (and, thus, would get more people to fly and use more pillows). Circuitous as it is, though, the ISP initiative might actually work, especially if Google picks the right cities to serve. I'd urge it to go after a few high-profile tech hubs—places like San Francisco; Austin, Texas; Boston; or some areas around Washington, D.C., and New York—where there are loads of people who want (and can afford) super-fast Internet. If Google manages to steal phone and cable companies' best customers in these few areas, it could light a fire under the telecom industry to provide better service all over. That'll be especially true once people see all the possibilities of 1GB Internet lines. Super-fast broadband has the power to overthrow the business models of entire industries. As more and more people get access, we'll be able to quit our TV and phone plans, and we'll finally have the ability to store all our data in the Internet cloud. I can't wait. Yet the way things are going now, I'm going to have to wait. Indeed, waiting is pretty much all we do on the Internet in America. According to Akamai, which publishes a quarterly "State of the Internet" report, the average connection speed in the United States is 3.8 megabits per second. That puts America at 18th in the world—below Denmark, the Czech Republic, Latvia, Romania, Hong Kong, Japan, and South Korea, the world's leader in connection speeds (its average speed is 11 megabits per second). What's more, we're falling further behind. A new report by Harvard's Berkman Center for Internet & Society that measures American broadband across several dimensions—speed, penetration, price—puts this country in the "middle of the pack" on "first-generation" broadband systems. We lag way behind, however, on next-generation systems. According to Akamai, nearly 10 percent of broadband customers in South Korea enjoy speeds of greater than 25 MBPS. In the United States, only 1 percent of customers get those speeds. There's a simple reason we lag so far behind: American broadband companies face no real competition. Most of us can get the Internet in just two ways—through our local cable company or our local phone company—and a lot of us have only one provider. Telecom firms have you hooked, so they see no real incentive in improving their service. That's precisely why Google's effort could become a catalyst for change. Google already knows how to manage large, high-speed networks on the cheap; it runs the most advanced data centers in the world and has unmatched power in moving bits across continents. Google hasn't announced prices for 1GB Internet service, but its network prowess suggests it will be able to charge much less than phone or cable firms. In certain communities, cheap, fast broadband—combined with the satisfaction of kissing off your cable or phone company—will prove irresistible. Of course, Google's efforts aren't altruistic. The faster our Internet access, the more money Google makes. As a result, the company is obsessive about speed, and its engineers are constantly looking for ways to rocket Google's content into our homes. Some of Google's most basic design choices were made out of a consideration for speed. Why do we get 10 results when we search for something, rather than 20 or 30? Because sending more results adds about a half-second of load time to each search. A half-second doesn't sound like much, but in Google's tests, the extra time turned people off; those who got 30 results instead of 10 conducted 25 percent fewer searches. But it's not just Google that will benefit from a faster Internet. We all will. On a 1 GB line you'll be able to download a high-definition movie in just a few minutes. Because all your music will live on servers, you'll be able to access it everywhere. You'll get crystal-clear voice and video calls, and you'll have the ability to play graphics-intensive video games on remote consoles. Many businesses are already investing heavily in immersive video-conferencing systems that use HD cameras and projectors to create "lifelike" meetings between people on different continents; these systems, which require huge broadband pipes, could cut travel costs and boost teamwork between far-flung employees. Then there are the possibilities for remote robotic surgery—the promise that doctors far away could reach out through the Internet to fix you up, even if you live nowhere near a world-class hospital. And those are just the fantasies we can dream of. The Internet, as we've all seen, is a foundational technology—a platform that constantly gives life to great things we'd never even thought of in the past. A faster Internet just boosts that promise. Let's all thank Google for investing in it. faster, faster! google's brilliant new plan to provide super-speedy internet access Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/53632-google-to-become-isp-100-200x-faster/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rambo Posted February 20, 2010 Report Share Posted February 20, 2010 yeah, this is definitely a good thing. It makes sense to yank the isp's pants down if you're google. Everyone wins except a few rich shits. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/53632-google-to-become-isp-100-200x-faster/#findComment-1248663 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chenGOD Posted February 20, 2010 Report Share Posted February 20, 2010 Google can also buy and sell electricity: http://news.cnet.com/8301-11128_3-10456435-54.html Hello Central Services? I'd like to talk to you about some ducts Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide all signatures 백호야~~~항상에 사랑할거예요.나의 아들. Shout outs to the saracens, musulmen and celestials. Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/53632-google-to-become-isp-100-200x-faster/#findComment-1248690 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rabid Posted February 20, 2010 Report Share Posted February 20, 2010 google frightens me Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/53632-google-to-become-isp-100-200x-faster/#findComment-1248695 Share on other sites More sharing options...
skotosa Posted February 20, 2010 Report Share Posted February 20, 2010 They will monitor everything you do and ban you if you look at porn. JK. but they will be able to see everything you do. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide skotosa's signature Hide all signatures Artist Name: SkiaSoundcloud http://www.last.fm/user/skotosa Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/53632-google-to-become-isp-100-200x-faster/#findComment-1248766 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boxing Day Posted February 20, 2010 Report Share Posted February 20, 2010 On 2/20/2010 at 10:05 PM, ZiggomaticV17 said: They will monitor everything you do and ban you if you look at porn. JK. but they will be able to see everything you do. Who gives a shit .. i am not a criminal .. i am one of the most boring Web surfers .. Google won't care about me .. As long as i get that sweet super speed internet .. they can look all they want .. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Boxing Day's signature Hide all signatures I HOPE THIS MATCH NEVER ENDS - Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/53632-google-to-become-isp-100-200x-faster/#findComment-1248775 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Glass Plate Posted February 21, 2010 Report Share Posted February 21, 2010 I'd much rather have google watch me than some of these other corporations.. also I hope their internet services come around soon and at competitive prices. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/53632-google-to-become-isp-100-200x-faster/#findComment-1248950 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hautlle Posted February 21, 2010 Report Share Posted February 21, 2010 There is a group forming in my old town (Topeka) trying to entice google to include them as one of the next fiber testing sites. Apparently they're growing pretty quickly Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Hautlle's signature Hide all signatures Albums/EPs Free to DL or stream Newest stuff is on Soundcloud Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/53632-google-to-become-isp-100-200x-faster/#findComment-1248951 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rambo Posted February 21, 2010 Report Share Posted February 21, 2010 On 2/21/2010 at 3:31 AM, Glass Plate said: I'd much rather have google watch me than some of these other corporations.. Me too. Besides, if it's true that this is only a relatively short term plan to quicken progress before selling it all off again, then it's pretty obvious that this isn't some dark plan for control. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/53632-google-to-become-isp-100-200x-faster/#findComment-1248954 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chenGOD Posted February 21, 2010 Report Share Posted February 21, 2010 Apparently the guy who wrote the article fails in basic comprehension/research skills, because google has stated it's aiming for locations with populations between 50,000 and 500,000. That rules out all the cities he listed. Seriously, does he get paid for that shit? Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide all signatures 백호야~~~항상에 사랑할거예요.나의 아들. Shout outs to the saracens, musulmen and celestials. Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/53632-google-to-become-isp-100-200x-faster/#findComment-1248971 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Space Coyote Posted February 21, 2010 Report Share Posted February 21, 2010 On 2/21/2010 at 4:41 AM, chenGOD said: Apparently the guy who wrote the article fails in basic comprehension/research skills, because google has stated it's aiming for locations with populations between 50,000 and 500,000. That rules out all the cities he listed. Seriously, does he get paid for that shit? I read it as meaning that depending on the size of cities chosen, they will have 50,000 to 500,000 customers there, as if they're putting a cap on the amount of customers they will serve. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/53632-google-to-become-isp-100-200x-faster/#findComment-1248978 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chenGOD Posted February 21, 2010 Report Share Posted February 21, 2010 On 2/21/2010 at 4:58 AM, Space Coyote said: On 2/21/2010 at 4:41 AM, chenGOD said: Apparently the guy who wrote the article fails in basic comprehension/research skills, because google has stated it's aiming for locations with populations between 50,000 and 500,000. That rules out all the cities he listed. Seriously, does he get paid for that shit? I read it as meaning that depending on the size of cities chosen, they will have 50,000 to 500,000 customers there, as if they're putting a cap on the amount of customers they will serve. Actually my bad: from google blog - Quote We plan to offer service at a competitive price to at least 50,000 and potentially up to 500,000 people That looks like total numbers, so it looks like there will be pockets of people in target areas. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide all signatures 백호야~~~항상에 사랑할거예요.나의 아들. Shout outs to the saracens, musulmen and celestials. Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/53632-google-to-become-isp-100-200x-faster/#findComment-1249047 Share on other sites More sharing options...
karmakramer Posted February 21, 2010 Report Share Posted February 21, 2010 I welcome our new overlords Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/53632-google-to-become-isp-100-200x-faster/#findComment-1249051 Share on other sites More sharing options...
zazen Posted February 21, 2010 Report Share Posted February 21, 2010 Seems like every few months Google announce something that is a surprising, brilliant new move. digitising all the worlds books free unlimited space email google maps (I mean, holy crap, that was the first time I'd seen ajax in action) google cacking street view pulling the fuck out of china googlephone gigabit broadband They're also looking into space elevators, you know I'm generally lefty-skeptical of corporations, but apart from a few missteps in China, I've gotta say I'm cheering google on all the way. So far anyways Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/53632-google-to-become-isp-100-200x-faster/#findComment-1249107 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lumpenprol Posted February 21, 2010 Report Share Posted February 21, 2010 so, faster porn and ip theft exciting news! Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide lumpenprol's signature Hide all signatures After this I listened to geogaddi and I didn't like it, I was quite vomitting at some tracks, I realized they were too crazy for my ears, they took too much acid to play music I stupidly thought (cliché of psyché music) But I knew this album was a kind of big forest where I just wasn't able to go inside. - lost cloud I was in US tjis summer, and eat in KFC. FUCK That's the worst thing i've ever eaten. The flesh simply doesn't cleave to the bones. Battery ferming. And then, foie gras is banned from NY state, because it's considered as ill-treat. IT'S NOT. KFC is tourist ill-treat. YOU POISONERS! Two hours after being to KFC, i stopped in a amsih little town barf all that KFC shit out. Nice work! So i hope this woman is not like kfc chicken, otherwise she'll be pulled to pieces. -organized confused project Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/53632-google-to-become-isp-100-200x-faster/#findComment-1249113 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GORDO Posted February 21, 2010 Report Share Posted February 21, 2010 the internet has already become aware. it is running google. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide GORDO's signature Hide all signatures ZOMG! Lazerz pew pew pew!!!!11!!1!!!!1!oneone!shift+one!~!!! Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/53632-google-to-become-isp-100-200x-faster/#findComment-1249277 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bigs Posted February 21, 2010 Report Share Posted February 21, 2010 On 2/20/2010 at 7:16 PM, Rambo said: yeah, this is definitely a good thing. It makes sense to yank the isp's pants down if you're google. Everyone wins except a few rich shits. few people realize google's going to become the next big one :/ On 2/20/2010 at 8:01 PM, Rabid said: google frightens me yeah! On 2/20/2010 at 10:40 PM, Boxing Day said: On 2/20/2010 at 10:05 PM, ZiggomaticV17 said: They will monitor everything you do and ban you if you look at porn. JK. but they will be able to see everything you do. Who gives a shit .. i am not a criminal .. i am one of the most boring Web surfers .. Google won't care about me .. As long as i get that sweet super speed internet .. they can look all they want .. i'm not speaking pejoratively, but people like you are part of the reason companies like most american isp's are allowing the NSA (among others) to monitor our bandwidth. it doesn't matter if you're a not a criminal, though surely you've downloaded an album or two -- it's a matter of rights to free speech and privacy. when we sit around playing the "it won't affect me" game, pretty much everybody loses. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/53632-google-to-become-isp-100-200x-faster/#findComment-1249289 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GORDO Posted February 21, 2010 Report Share Posted February 21, 2010 ok then let's make the internet a completely unmarketable place so it can die already. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide GORDO's signature Hide all signatures ZOMG! Lazerz pew pew pew!!!!11!!1!!!!1!oneone!shift+one!~!!! Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/53632-google-to-become-isp-100-200x-faster/#findComment-1249293 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoodie Posted February 21, 2010 Report Share Posted February 21, 2010 On 2/21/2010 at 8:42 PM, bigs said: On 2/20/2010 at 7:16 PM, Rambo said: yeah, this is definitely a good thing. It makes sense to yank the isp's pants down if you're google. Everyone wins except a few rich shits. few people realize google's going to become the next big one :/ they stated that they have no interest in entering the isp game because of having to set up maintenance and customer service junk. you don't believe them or something? Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/53632-google-to-become-isp-100-200x-faster/#findComment-1249296 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chenGOD Posted February 21, 2010 Report Share Posted February 21, 2010 On 2/21/2010 at 12:37 PM, zazen said: Seems like every few months Google announce something that is a surprising, brilliant new move. digitising all the worlds books free unlimited space email google maps (I mean, holy crap, that was the first time I'd seen ajax in action) google cacking street view pulling the fuck out of china googlephone gigabit broadband None of those are new ideas. Except maybe street view. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide all signatures 백호야~~~항상에 사랑할거예요.나의 아들. Shout outs to the saracens, musulmen and celestials. Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/53632-google-to-become-isp-100-200x-faster/#findComment-1249309 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GORDO Posted February 21, 2010 Report Share Posted February 21, 2010 chengod you need to start reading. new MOVES. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide GORDO's signature Hide all signatures ZOMG! Lazerz pew pew pew!!!!11!!1!!!!1!oneone!shift+one!~!!! Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/53632-google-to-become-isp-100-200x-faster/#findComment-1249322 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chenGOD Posted February 21, 2010 Report Share Posted February 21, 2010 Gordo you need to stop living on the internet. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide all signatures 백호야~~~항상에 사랑할거예요.나의 아들. Shout outs to the saracens, musulmen and celestials. Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/53632-google-to-become-isp-100-200x-faster/#findComment-1249324 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GORDO Posted February 21, 2010 Report Share Posted February 21, 2010 says the man with quad times the post count. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide GORDO's signature Hide all signatures ZOMG! Lazerz pew pew pew!!!!11!!1!!!!1!oneone!shift+one!~!!! Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/53632-google-to-become-isp-100-200x-faster/#findComment-1249390 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rambo Posted February 21, 2010 Report Share Posted February 21, 2010 On 2/21/2010 at 8:50 PM, Hoodie said: On 2/21/2010 at 8:42 PM, bigs said: On 2/20/2010 at 7:16 PM, Rambo said: yeah, this is definitely a good thing. It makes sense to yank the isp's pants down if you're google. Everyone wins except a few rich shits. few people realize google's going to become the next big one :/ they stated that they have no interest in entering the isp game because of having to set up maintenance and customer service junk. you don't believe them or something? Exactly. That's the key point in all of this. That's what makes the motive crystal clear. I wonder though, when is going to be a good time to pull out? You can imagine that innovations could keep coming through and as soon as google pull out it could be back to square one again. Even if that did happen it would still have been a worthwhile exercise though anyway. Better moving things along for a brief period than not at all. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/53632-google-to-become-isp-100-200x-faster/#findComment-1249411 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Glass Plate Posted February 22, 2010 Report Share Posted February 22, 2010 How much different would this be in comparison to something like T3 or what not? (speed wise) Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/53632-google-to-become-isp-100-200x-faster/#findComment-1249547 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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