google to become isp: 100-200x faster

Just looked it up and it says t3 = 45 mbps, so about 20 times the speed at least. That'll do.

wow-e-wow-wow

in the year 2015, the internet will be renamed the googlenet

and then, the sharks with frickin lasers on their heads will be unleashed.

Google has had downs as well as ups. Orkut, wave, nexus one, and probably a lot of others I don't know about. I'm not sure they're ready for world domination quite yet.

Not to mention we've already said like 4 times that they don't plan to permanently run an ISP.

  On 2/22/2010 at 2:02 AM, lumpenprol said:

Google has had downs as well as ups. Orkut, wave, nexus one, and probably a lot of others I don't know about. I'm not sure they're ready for world domination quite yet.

http://knol.google.com/k

fail

  On 2/21/2010 at 11:26 PM, GORDO said:

says the man with quad times the post count.

11,500/4,000 != 4x post count

What I meant was, you need to stop existing, on the internet (cause I don't want you to actually die..lol communication fail)

Regardless of all that nonsense, the point is, none of those are new ideas, nor are they particularly bold or brilliant moves for a tech company whose stated mission is facilitate access of information to the world. The real brilliance lies in how they are able to monetize this by selling more eyeballs to their actual customers.

no but yes but no:

it's a lot like the beatles. none of these are new ideas, but google are the only company out there with massive enough balls to bring them to fruition. what i find especially intriguing is the plans to mobilize the huge amounts of dark fibre laid during the dotcom boom. it is an horrendous waste to have miles and miles of fibreoptic that is presently unused. and yeah despite the fact that 'don't be evil' seems to become harder to attain in direct proportion to the size of the organisation, i'd much rather google have my porn browsing habits than comcast, sony BMG, or my government. tbh i don't think they particularly care, at least at present. i'm just a part of a demographic, and i'm ok with that.

edit: google is not a tech company. google is an advertising company, but the advertising is facilitated (and made unique in the business they work in) by an unbelievably huge tech department composed of people who are the best in their field.

yes google bought up a lot of that dark fibre, and yes they are an advertising company (now, they weren't when they started) which I think I addressed in the last sentence of my post, albeit somewhat obliquely.

I must disagree that google are the only ones with enough balls to bring them to fruition:

digitising all the worlds books - project gutenberg

free unlimited space email - my e-mail on my home compute is limited by how much disk space I have

google maps (I mean, holy crap, that was the first time I'd seen ajax in action) - online mapping was around long before google maps got into the game

google cacking street view - this one I already acknowledged as being a google first and pretty damn cool

pulling the fuck out of china - yeah um except google.cn still exists

googlephone - a smartphone? Umm lots of those around already

gigabit broadband - and while this is a nice idea, it's not gonna fly for a while because of countless other bottlenecks in the way.

I agree, they're a much better corporation than any of those other fucks you mentioned, and the government has no business knowing your browsing habits unless you've broken some laws (actual child porn (that's for you Australia-land), cyber-crime, human trafficking etc). They are still just a corporation though...

i think the original point was that they do things that aren't expected from them. even if they're not new ideas.

like if suddenly google decided to produce chocolate.

ChenGOD - yeah I know that few of those were new ideas, but for example GMail and Google Maps were the first major uses of AJAX, and hence did kick off something of a revolution.

And before GMail, things like hotmail and yahoo mail had this crappy like 4meg limit and you had to keep deleting stuff. Then one day in 2005, Google launch GMail, pretty much out of the blue, and there's basically no limit to storage. It was such a good conceptual leap. And now of course, hotmail and yahoo have had to keep up.

I guess they're planning to give the same kick up the arse to ISPs.

Or take Chrome - and the idea that having a really fast javascript engine was important. Seems to me, no other browsers were concentrating on speed before Chrome got launched, now every IE and Firefox release has to emphasise their javascript benchmarks.

I think I just admire that they are sitting on a mountain of cash and are very smart, and are willing to try all kinds of long-term stuff and see what sticks. And the way they just suddenly announce things and they're already in advanced beta. And the idea of the 20% time they give to employees is brilliant. If we ever do build a space elevator, I bet they're involved.

  On 2/21/2010 at 8:29 PM, GORDO said:

the internet has already become aware. it is running google.

Google is run by a giant AI you know : )

http://www.google.com/intl/en/landing/cadie/index.html

(see also)

  On 2/22/2010 at 9:18 PM, GORDO said:

i think the original point was that they do things that aren't expected from them. even if they're not new ideas.

 

like if suddenly google decided to produce chocolate.

All of those things should be expected of them, with their mission statement.

  On 2/22/2010 at 10:06 PM, zazen said:

ChenGOD - yeah I know that few of those were new ideas, but for example GMail and Google Maps were the first major uses of AJAX, and hence did kick off something of a revolution.

And before GMail, things like hotmail and yahoo mail had this crappy like 4meg limit and you had to keep deleting stuff. Then one day in 2005, Google launch GMail, pretty much out of the blue, and there's basically no limit to storage. It was such a good conceptual leap. And now of course, hotmail and yahoo have had to keep up.

I guess they're planning to give the same kick up the arse to ISPs.

 

Or take Chrome - and the idea that having a really fast javascript engine was important. Seems to me, no other browsers were concentrating on speed before Chrome got launched, now every IE and Firefox release has to emphasise their javascript benchmarks.

 

I think I just admire that they are sitting on a mountain of cash and are very smart, and are willing to try all kinds of long-term stuff and see what sticks. And the way they just suddenly announce things and they're already in advanced beta. And the idea of the 20% time they give to employees is brilliant. If we ever do build a space elevator, I bet they're involved.

I was well aware of space limitations of webmail, that's why I almost never used it prior to gmail. My own e-mail service had oodles of space though...;)

I understand what you're saying, 100%. I'm just saying that Google is very similar to Apple in that they are able to take an idea and polish it so it shines. Both companies are unreasonable lauded for this ability (and I use both companies' products) so it's just nice to provide a little counterbalance to this praise.

  On 2/20/2010 at 10:05 PM, ZiggomaticV17 said:

They will monitor everything you do and ban you if you look at porn. JK. but they will be able to see everything you do.

to actively monitor everything you do, a staff would have to be assigned personally to you.

just don't google communism or buttsecks.

well, yeah developing other people's ideas, taking something thats already there and improving it has been whats driven technology forward since the start of the industrial revolution

  On 2/22/2010 at 10:11 PM, chenGOD said:

All of those things should be expected of them, with their mission statement.

Ah, that gets to the heart of it. Yeah, I think what impresses me is that their mission statement is incredibly ballsy, long term and ambitious, and yet from their actions they show every sign of being able to achieve it.

Ok, enough google love.

google being an isp also allows them to take a real stand on net neutrality and stuff like that.

their MO seems to be thinking about cool stuff that other companies (not necesarilly competitors) should be trying and then to try them themselves.

  On 2/22/2010 at 10:06 PM, zazen said:

 

  On 2/21/2010 at 8:29 PM, GORDO said:

the internet has already become aware. it is running google.

 

Google is run by a giant AI you know : )

 

http://www.google.com/intl/en/landing/cadie/index.html

 

(see also)

Google's CEO was quoted saying that the real objective of google is to create an AI. i think they're acomplishing it; many of google's experimental services are all about software learning from user input, users teaching the software. and i'm serious when i say that if you look at google's decisions it seems like if they were directed by the internet's sake. which is obviously true since the internet is google's business but you could also look at it as if the internet was running google.

soon your undies will be made of the google dark fibers

uploading your temperature to a gameshow

  On 2/22/2010 at 10:06 PM, zazen said:

And the idea of the 20% time they give to employees is brilliant. If we ever do build a space elevator, I bet they're involved.

the 20% is a bit of a myth these days. not all employees get it, it has to be shown to be of worth to the company, and you have to give very detailed weekly or monthly reports.

i suppose you guys have heard about their brilliant, insane, interview questions?

How much would such a fast internet connection cost? The other ISPs are no match against Google's technology and I think the internet at home is expensive enough.

  On 2/22/2010 at 10:38 PM, Enter a new display name said:

How much would such a fast internet connection cost? The other ISPs are no match against Google's technology and I think the internet at home is expensive enough.

it costs free just have to wear the google tee (and socks)

minimum contract 8 seconds. terms and conditions apply: if you continue to use google teeth removal vavles and consolidate your exsisting google socks into one easy lovely daughter.

Was googling (haha) to find some more info on this (as my town is own of the candidates it looks like) and came across this.

I won't ruin it for you, just click through. (apologies if jazz but I didn't see anything, at least in this thread, about this new service).

ah, here it is

  On 2/25/2010 at 12:12 AM, GORDO said:

Google to donate $2 Million to wikipedia

Google Launches Wikipedia Killer

  On 2/25/2010 at 12:14 AM, Boxing Day said:

  On 2/25/2010 at 12:12 AM, GORDO said:

Google to donate $2 Million to wikipedia

 

Google Launches Wikipedia Killer

Google to donate $2 Million to wikipedia