digit Posted December 22, 2010 Report Share Posted December 22, 2010 the Oversteps circle sucks, that font they're using sucks, and the way the font is made so huge & laid over the artwork sucks. the guy designed the cover without even listening to the album! sorry, but that's just fucking stupid. i can read his intellectual description of how he came up with the art & what it represents and it makes sense, but just looking at that cover & listening to the album... doesn't relate or fit with the music at all. you shouldn't have to read an essay to understand the album artwork. that cover conveys zen minimalism, starkness... which is like the exact opposite of Oversteps. in my opinion, this just continues the string of crappy album cover artwork Autechre has had, starting with Untilted. Draft was their last decent album cover. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/53760-oversteps-artwork/page/2/#findComment-1481890 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Lube Saibot Posted December 22, 2010 Report Share Posted December 22, 2010 On 12/20/2010 at 10:25 AM, 2010 said: An interview with the designer of “Oversteps”, Ian Anderson, can be found on the blog "200% Meets". In a short Q&A, Ian Anderson shares some insight into the creative process as to how the artwork originated. http://200-percent-blog.blogspot.com *sigh* it's really funny how stupid people trying to be smart people always inadvertently come off as stupider than if they just spoke normally and kept to their level. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/53760-oversteps-artwork/page/2/#findComment-1481905 Share on other sites More sharing options...
karmakramer Posted December 22, 2010 Report Share Posted December 22, 2010 On 12/22/2010 at 6:06 AM, digit said: the Oversteps circle sucks, that font they're using sucks, and the way the font is made so huge & laid over the artwork sucks. the guy designed the cover without even listening to the album! sorry, but that's just fucking stupid. i can read his intellectual description of how he came up with the art & what it represents and it makes sense, but just looking at that cover & listening to the album... doesn't relate or fit with the music at all. you shouldn't have to read an essay to understand the album artwork. that cover conveys zen minimalism, starkness... which is like the exact opposite of Oversteps. in my opinion, this just continues the string of crappy album cover artwork Autechre has had, starting with Untilted. Draft was their last decent album cover. Id probably agree overall... having the poster on my bedroom wall for a period did suddenly make me feel like some sort of zen freak. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/53760-oversteps-artwork/page/2/#findComment-1481923 Share on other sites More sharing options...
xyrofen Posted December 22, 2010 Report Share Posted December 22, 2010 I like geometry. So I'm pretty okay with Quaristice and Oversteps when it comes to album artwork. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/53760-oversteps-artwork/page/2/#findComment-1482017 Share on other sites More sharing options...
khov Posted December 22, 2010 Report Share Posted December 22, 2010 On 12/22/2010 at 6:06 AM, digit said: the Oversteps circle sucks, that font they're using sucks, and the way the font is made so huge & laid over the artwork sucks. the guy designed the cover without even listening to the album! sorry, but that's just fucking stupid. i can read his intellectual description of how he came up with the art & what it represents and it makes sense, but just looking at that cover & listening to the album... doesn't relate or fit with the music at all. you shouldn't have to read an essay to understand the album artwork. that cover conveys zen minimalism, starkness... which is like the exact opposite of Oversteps. in my opinion, this just continues the string of crappy album cover artwork Autechre has had, starting with Untilted. Draft was their last decent album cover. i really like most TDR stuff so i might be biased but im not a huge fan of the Oversteps artwork. well, i like it but less than some others tDR stuff. what i appreciate is that straight forward thing, like direct expression (like that big dot) while confield was more chaotic etc. of course, that's really personal but what i like in Oversteps is that how "easy" the album is. so, i'd say the artwork fit with it... Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/53760-oversteps-artwork/page/2/#findComment-1482058 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terpentintollwut Posted December 22, 2010 Report Share Posted December 22, 2010 Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/53760-oversteps-artwork/page/2/#findComment-1482073 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Root5 Posted December 22, 2010 Report Share Posted December 22, 2010 I dunno, I kinda like the Oversteps artwork, and I see it as pretty suitable to the album. Many of the Oversteps songs are less repetitive in the way that electronic music almost always is, and they develop in a more organic way. So I like that the cover is a painting. And the circle is kinda like the O in Oversteps. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Root5's signature Hide all signatures WATMM Christmas Albums: 2011 2012 2013 2014MOST IDM Tribute Albums: Incomplete Skyscrapers Rogue Planet Mycorhizae Olympus Mons HeadphonesOther Compilation Albums: Heading for Outer Space Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/53760-oversteps-artwork/page/2/#findComment-1482076 Share on other sites More sharing options...
oscillik Posted December 22, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 22, 2010 On 12/22/2010 at 6:06 AM, digit said: the Oversteps circle sucks, that font they're using sucks, and the way the font is made so huge & laid over the artwork sucks. the guy designed the cover without even listening to the album! sorry, but that's just fucking stupid. i can read his intellectual description of how he came up with the art & what it represents and it makes sense, but just looking at that cover & listening to the album... doesn't relate or fit with the music at all. you shouldn't have to read an essay to understand the album artwork. that cover conveys zen minimalism, starkness... which is like the exact opposite of Oversteps. in my opinion, this just continues the string of crappy album cover artwork Autechre has had, starting with Untilted. Draft was their last decent album cover. LOL WOULD WATMM AGAIN Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide oscillik's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/53760-oversteps-artwork/page/2/#findComment-1482313 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ruiagnelo Posted December 22, 2010 Report Share Posted December 22, 2010 On 12/22/2010 at 6:06 AM, digit said: the Oversteps circle sucks, that font they're using sucks, and the way the font is made so huge & laid over the artwork sucks. the guy designed the cover without even listening to the album! sorry, but that's just fucking stupid. i can read his intellectual description of how he came up with the art & what it represents and it makes sense, but just looking at that cover & listening to the album... doesn't relate or fit with the music at all. you shouldn't have to read an essay to understand the album artwork. that cover conveys zen minimalism, starkness... which is like the exact opposite of Oversteps. in my opinion, this just continues the string of crappy album cover artwork Autechre has had, starting with Untilted. Draft was their last decent album cover. i am not sure i agree entirely with you, but it is actually strange that the artwork was created without the artists listening to the music. there really isn't a point here. my favorite covers until now, and by favorite i mean that they are visually appealing to me and i can connect them with the music, are those of confield and amber. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/53760-oversteps-artwork/page/2/#findComment-1482325 Share on other sites More sharing options...
oscillik Posted December 22, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 22, 2010 i find it funny that people here wouldn't understand the logic in not listening to the music before doing the artwork. if you've had in-depth conversation with the musicians on what they're working on for the album, then you don't need to have listened to the music to be able to create artwork for it. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide oscillik's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/53760-oversteps-artwork/page/2/#findComment-1482365 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ruiagnelo Posted December 22, 2010 Report Share Posted December 22, 2010 On 12/22/2010 at 10:18 PM, oscillik said: i find it funny that people here wouldn't understand the logic in not listening to the music before doing the artwork. if you've had in-depth conversation with the musicians on what they're working on for the album, then you don't need to have listened to the music to be able to create artwork for it. you can say it is acceptable to try that way, but there really isn't a clear logic about it. the same way it is very hard to imagine an architect creating a building without even looking at the respective site, it is hard to imagine an artist designing a cover for a record he hasn't listened to yet. the artist can talk with the musicians yes, but what is the point, if he hasn't heard a thing? Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/53760-oversteps-artwork/page/2/#findComment-1482369 Share on other sites More sharing options...
oscillik Posted December 22, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 22, 2010 On 12/22/2010 at 10:25 PM, ruiagnelo said: On 12/22/2010 at 10:18 PM, oscillik said: i find it funny that people here wouldn't understand the logic in not listening to the music before doing the artwork. if you've had in-depth conversation with the musicians on what they're working on for the album, then you don't need to have listened to the music to be able to create artwork for it. you can say it is acceptable to try that way, but there really isn't a clear logic about it. the same way it is very hard to imagine an architect creating a building without even looking at the respective site, it is hard to imagine an artist designing a cover for a record he hasn't listened to yet. the artist can talk with the musicians yes, but what is the point, if he hasn't heard a thing? lol at comparing tangible constructs with ideas Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide oscillik's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/53760-oversteps-artwork/page/2/#findComment-1482389 Share on other sites More sharing options...
awepittance Posted December 22, 2010 Report Share Posted December 22, 2010 On 12/22/2010 at 6:06 AM, digit said: the Oversteps circle sucks, that font they're using sucks, and the way the font is made so huge & laid over the artwork sucks. the guy designed the cover without even listening to the album! sorry, but that's just fucking stupid. i can read his intellectual description of how he came up with the art & what it represents and it makes sense, but just looking at that cover & listening to the album... doesn't relate or fit with the music at all. you shouldn't have to read an essay to understand the album artwork. that cover conveys zen minimalism, starkness... which is like the exact opposite of Oversteps. in my opinion, this just continues the string of crappy album cover artwork Autechre has had, starting with Untilted. Draft was their last decent album cover. Completely agree, although Quaristice did have a certain charm Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide awepittance's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/53760-oversteps-artwork/page/2/#findComment-1482392 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ruiagnelo Posted December 22, 2010 Report Share Posted December 22, 2010 On 12/22/2010 at 11:02 PM, oscillik said: On 12/22/2010 at 10:25 PM, ruiagnelo said: On 12/22/2010 at 10:18 PM, oscillik said: i find it funny that people here wouldn't understand the logic in not listening to the music before doing the artwork. if you've had in-depth conversation with the musicians on what they're working on for the album, then you don't need to have listened to the music to be able to create artwork for it. you can say it is acceptable to try that way, but there really isn't a clear logic about it. the same way it is very hard to imagine an architect creating a building without even looking at the respective site, it is hard to imagine an artist designing a cover for a record he hasn't listened to yet. the artist can talk with the musicians yes, but what is the point, if he hasn't heard a thing? lol at comparing tangible constructs with ideas lol at you thinking you get the logic that others don't Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/53760-oversteps-artwork/page/2/#findComment-1482394 Share on other sites More sharing options...
elusive4 Posted December 22, 2010 Report Share Posted December 22, 2010 i didntk now your record player had a fuking scanner attached to it Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/53760-oversteps-artwork/page/2/#findComment-1482404 Share on other sites More sharing options...
oscillik Posted December 23, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 23, 2010 On 12/22/2010 at 11:10 PM, ruiagnelo said: On 12/22/2010 at 11:02 PM, oscillik said: On 12/22/2010 at 10:25 PM, ruiagnelo said: On 12/22/2010 at 10:18 PM, oscillik said: i find it funny that people here wouldn't understand the logic in not listening to the music before doing the artwork. if you've had in-depth conversation with the musicians on what they're working on for the album, then you don't need to have listened to the music to be able to create artwork for it. you can say it is acceptable to try that way, but there really isn't a clear logic about it. the same way it is very hard to imagine an architect creating a building without even looking at the respective site, it is hard to imagine an artist designing a cover for a record he hasn't listened to yet. the artist can talk with the musicians yes, but what is the point, if he hasn't heard a thing? lol at comparing tangible constructs with ideas lol at you thinking you get the logic that others don't lol at WATMM Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide oscillik's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/53760-oversteps-artwork/page/2/#findComment-1482451 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ruiagnelo Posted December 23, 2010 Report Share Posted December 23, 2010 On 12/23/2010 at 12:27 AM, oscillik said: On 12/22/2010 at 11:10 PM, ruiagnelo said: On 12/22/2010 at 11:02 PM, oscillik said: On 12/22/2010 at 10:25 PM, ruiagnelo said: On 12/22/2010 at 10:18 PM, oscillik said: i find it funny that people here wouldn't understand the logic in not listening to the music before doing the artwork. if you've had in-depth conversation with the musicians on what they're working on for the album, then you don't need to have listened to the music to be able to create artwork for it. you can say it is acceptable to try that way, but there really isn't a clear logic about it. the same way it is very hard to imagine an architect creating a building without even looking at the respective site, it is hard to imagine an artist designing a cover for a record he hasn't listened to yet. the artist can talk with the musicians yes, but what is the point, if he hasn't heard a thing? lol at comparing tangible constructs with ideas lol at you thinking you get the logic that others don't lol at WATMM http://forum.watmm.com/topic/62412-im-becoming-more-of-a-cunt-lately/ Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/53760-oversteps-artwork/page/2/#findComment-1482456 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jules Posted December 28, 2010 Report Share Posted December 28, 2010 On 12/22/2010 at 11:02 PM, oscillik said: On 12/22/2010 at 10:25 PM, ruiagnelo said: On 12/22/2010 at 10:18 PM, oscillik said: i find it funny that people here wouldn't understand the logic in not listening to the music before doing the artwork. if you've had in-depth conversation with the musicians on what they're working on for the album, then you don't need to have listened to the music to be able to create artwork for it. you can say it is acceptable to try that way, but there really isn't a clear logic about it. the same way it is very hard to imagine an architect creating a building without even looking at the respective site, it is hard to imagine an artist designing a cover for a record he hasn't listened to yet. the artist can talk with the musicians yes, but what is the point, if he hasn't heard a thing? lol at comparing tangible constructs with ideas I'm with osc on this one. ian said in the interview he didn't want the art to be a reflection of the music but rather a visual attempt at what they were attempting sonically. I'm not saying the result is awesome but I do like the concept of trying to work in support of the music rather than to try to sum it up with a single photo. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide jules's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/53760-oversteps-artwork/page/2/#findComment-1485090 Share on other sites More sharing options...
oscillik Posted December 28, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 28, 2010 On 12/28/2010 at 4:26 AM, jules said: On 12/22/2010 at 11:02 PM, oscillik said: On 12/22/2010 at 10:25 PM, ruiagnelo said: On 12/22/2010 at 10:18 PM, oscillik said: i find it funny that people here wouldn't understand the logic in not listening to the music before doing the artwork. if you've had in-depth conversation with the musicians on what they're working on for the album, then you don't need to have listened to the music to be able to create artwork for it. you can say it is acceptable to try that way, but there really isn't a clear logic about it. the same way it is very hard to imagine an architect creating a building without even looking at the respective site, it is hard to imagine an artist designing a cover for a record he hasn't listened to yet. the artist can talk with the musicians yes, but what is the point, if he hasn't heard a thing? lol at comparing tangible constructs with ideas I'm with osc on this one. ian said in the interview he didn't want the art to be a reflection of the music but rather a visual attempt at what they were attempting sonically. I'm not saying the result is awesome but I do like the concept of trying to work in support of the music rather than to try to sum it up with a single photo. of course, it took a much better man than i to eloquently put across the point that i had meant to make. thanks jules Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide oscillik's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/53760-oversteps-artwork/page/2/#findComment-1485124 Share on other sites More sharing options...
manmower Posted December 28, 2010 Report Share Posted December 28, 2010 Yeah that Anderson dude is making perfect sense. If you want to have artwork reflecting the spirit of the album instead of its sound it is best to completely ignore the sound and avoid it influencing you. By the way I prefer the Move Of Ten artwork by far. It's like a slightly less lazy version of the Oversteps artwork. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/53760-oversteps-artwork/page/2/#findComment-1485174 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jules Posted December 28, 2010 Report Share Posted December 28, 2010 On 12/28/2010 at 12:05 PM, manmower said: Yeah that Anderson dude is making perfect sense. If you want to have artwork reflecting the spirit of the album instead of its sound it is best to completely ignore the sound and avoid it influencing you. he didn't want it reflecting anything. that's the point. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide jules's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/53760-oversteps-artwork/page/2/#findComment-1485212 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Greg Reason Posted December 28, 2010 Report Share Posted December 28, 2010 (edited) Ian Anderson interview said: 200%: From where did the idea of the black circle come? Was is inspired by Kazemir Malevich’s painting “Black Circle” from 1913? Ian Anderson: No, the similarities are not intentional. The “Oversteps” artwork relates to Autechre's work. Bullshit. After madly pillaging the Malevich oeuvre for Quadrange you mean to tell me that even if that was "not intentional" that you had no one point it out to you in the ensuing few years and you then managed to "unintentionally" rip him off again? Edited December 28, 2010 by Greg Reason Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/53760-oversteps-artwork/page/2/#findComment-1485213 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Al5x Posted December 28, 2010 Report Share Posted December 28, 2010 Just biked in to say this thread is amazing. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/53760-oversteps-artwork/page/2/#findComment-1485217 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jules Posted December 28, 2010 Report Share Posted December 28, 2010 On 12/28/2010 at 2:21 PM, Greg Reason said: Bullshit. After madly pillaging the Malevich oeuvre for Quadrange you mean to tell me that even if that was "not intentional" that you had no one point it out to you in the ensuing few years and you then managed to "unintentionally" rip him off again? yea that is definitely an lol. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide jules's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/53760-oversteps-artwork/page/2/#findComment-1485237 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 2010 Posted December 30, 2010 Report Share Posted December 30, 2010 On the link below, Ian Anderson, the designer of "Oversteps", shines his "light" on this year's nominees of Best Art Vinyl and to pick his favourites – and the reasons for their selection - in no particular order, well, apart from the first one. http://200-percent-blog.blogspot.com/2010/12/ian-anderson-part-ii.html Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/53760-oversteps-artwork/page/2/#findComment-1486187 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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