oh man

so I recently got live again after getting hooked a couple of years back and then having it die on me. Since then I've gotten a few pieces of kit and have begun to set up a little studio setup.

I've got an electribe ea-1, korg ms2000, casio cz101 + small mixer.

O fuck its awesome. Each clip can store a program preset, meaning I can trigger sequence changes on the ea-1 with live. Also you can route multiple tracks to the same midi out which means I can have 1 track for notes to the ms2000 and a few others holding only some automation via CC#s. This is awesome.

If I had some hardware beat machine I'd be set, but for now I just use battery or something. I really wish I could use ultra beat outside logic. For some reason I hate using drum samples. I like synthetic ones much more as you can velocity map them and have really alive sounding drum programming.

That is all.

I agree with you.

Yes, it is very much awesome. I finally just got my Tetr4 all connected into live today so i can control/automate everything on it through my BCR 32 knob controller. We'll see how this changes my sound =)

yeah ableton live is my main tool, i like it sooo much. thank god I'm not having the same stability problems some others have.

my set-up is mostly live (with zebra, ultra-analog, other vsts), dsi tetra, some midi controllers (padkontrol, keyboard) and some random hardware effects and some vintage analog synth.

i only ever use my Monomachine and kaoss3 live

a killer combo for improv work

  On 2/25/2010 at 9:14 PM, slightlydrybeans said:

Each clip can store a program preset, meaning I can trigger sequence changes on the ea-1 with live. Also you can route multiple tracks to the same midi out which means I can have 1 track for notes to the ms2000 and a few others holding only some automation via CC#s. This is awesome.

That is all.

yep

the only thing i dont like is no midi curves

midi curves?

  On 2/26/2010 at 6:39 PM, slightlydrybeans said:

midi curves?

I think he means that it doesn't show your recorded midi data as an editable automation line in that track like it does with any other automation in Live

live + hardware = sync issues

  On 2/27/2010 at 2:18 PM, bunty said:

live + hardware = sync issues

Which daw has no sync issues?

I think live syncs quite well, even at high latency (due to old pc).

  On 2/26/2010 at 7:28 PM, Hautlle said:

  On 2/26/2010 at 6:39 PM, slightlydrybeans said:

midi curves?

 

I think he means that it doesn't show your recorded midi data as an editable automation line in that track like it does with any other automation in Live

i mean things like LFO or Bezier curves for MIDI CCs or automation data..

  On 2/27/2010 at 3:19 PM, lala said:

  On 2/26/2010 at 7:28 PM, Hautlle said:

  On 2/26/2010 at 6:39 PM, slightlydrybeans said:

midi curves?

 

I think he means that it doesn't show your recorded midi data as an editable automation line in that track like it does with any other automation in Live

 

 

i mean things like LFO or Bezier curves for MIDI CCs or automation data..

same thing different words ;)

I saw Kcinsu play live a few weeks back using a Nord G2 Modular and a Virus TI running through Live and using only midi. Was pretty impressive.

thanks!

Yeah, I am currently just using Live to sequence my hardware (actually, there are 2 nords... one keyboard, one rackmount... that one was hidden!)

I love it... the limitation of using only hardware has pushed me to get more creative again!

  On 2/27/2010 at 7:33 PM, Hautlle said:

  On 2/27/2010 at 3:19 PM, lala said:

  On 2/26/2010 at 7:28 PM, Hautlle said:

  On 2/26/2010 at 6:39 PM, slightlydrybeans said:

midi curves?

 

I think he means that it doesn't show your recorded midi data as an editable automation line in that track like it does with any other automation in Live

 

 

i mean things like LFO or Bezier curves for MIDI CCs or automation data..

 

same thing different words ;)

no, i mean, live hasnt got BEZIER curves. smooth curves from point to point. or has it?

you are correct

nope, I want them curves as well

and why does that matter? cause they're smooth?

Kcinsu, any recommendations on syncing my EMX-1? I played with latency but my hardware still trails behind VSTs... so I've just been bouncing EMX-1 patterns to audio and quantizing them, but that's not "live" at all.

Also, does anyone use Live with a roland SH-201 or a synth with built in sync features like an arpeggiator? When I sync it to live, the arp wont work unless live's transport is moving, which is annoying. I've just been setting the SH-201 to internal clock when I want to tweak an arp patch, but it's annoying when I go back and forth between listening to the whole arrangement and just the patch i'm tweaking. I'm sure this is a really basic midi issue everyone has at first.. is that just how it has to be? Alternate between internal and external clocks when you use hardware?

Have you tried using the track delay under each channel strip? Put it in the negative values to make it less laggy. You'll have to play around manually... Mute everything except your electribe, put the metronome on, and start adjusting till it sounds right.

Thanks! I'll try this when I get home.

  On 2/28/2010 at 3:15 AM, Hautlle said:

and why does that matter? cause they're smooth?

it matters because automation can sound very different when you switch between a linear and a non-linear curve. for example in my music when i do volume automation on tracks i rarely just do a straight line, but rather do an exponential curve as it fades in, i think it's much more musical. think 111222333444555666777888999 vs 111111122222333444555667789.

it would be nice to have in live in a "click and drag" fashion, but you can come close enough by just using multiple points in your curve.

  On 3/4/2010 at 1:33 AM, ryanmcallister said:

  On 2/28/2010 at 3:15 AM, Hautlle said:

and why does that matter? cause they're smooth?

it matters because automation can sound very different when you switch between a linear and a non-linear curve. for example in my music when i do volume automation on tracks i rarely just do a straight line, but rather do an exponential curve as it fades in, i think it's much more musical. think 111222333444555666777888999 vs 111111122222333444555667789.

 

it would be nice to have in live in a "click and drag" fashion, but you can come close enough by just using multiple points in your curve.

I guess my question is how is it different from say turning off quantization and recording automation data for your fade in while doing it by hand? Couldn't you achieve the same results?

my synch issues are absolutly fine. because i do d-sync all the way to the bank. (NO MIDI)

while using the Electribe with LIve, do you try to automate stuff from Live? I know Electribes use NRPN. In live there is some vague reference to NRPN stuff, but I haven't fucked around too much with it. If it's not possible I guess I'd just use midipipe or something.