Guest spraaaa Posted April 29, 2010 Report Share Posted April 29, 2010 like Autechre, I think so fast that I must use 2 computers and Eno Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/54655-algorithms-of-max-msp-in-oversteps/page/2/#findComment-1311058 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dementia Posted April 29, 2010 Report Share Posted April 29, 2010 On 3/24/2010 at 8:13 PM, Jonas said: I don't know if there are fake oversteps releases on soulseek, but submitted to the hype and dl'd it yesterday to check out. Don't worry, I'm not a fan and am about to trash it in the digital bin, BUT am kind of amazed I can recognize FL Studio's Grossbeat vst on the master-out in track 06 'see on see'. Yeah, I think we downloaded the same leak. I actually prefer the fake "See on See" to the authentic version. Any idea who authored the fakes? Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Dementia's signature Hide all signatures Soundcloud Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/54655-algorithms-of-max-msp-in-oversteps/page/2/#findComment-1311076 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest reimdont Posted April 29, 2010 Report Share Posted April 29, 2010 On 4/29/2010 at 6:01 AM, Lascaille said: On 3/24/2010 at 8:13 PM, Jonas said: I don't know if there are fake oversteps releases on soulseek, but submitted to the hype and dl'd it yesterday to check out. Don't worry, I'm not a fan and am about to trash it in the digital bin, BUT am kind of amazed I can recognize FL Studio's Grossbeat vst on the master-out in track 06 'see on see'. Yeah, I think we downloaded the same leak. I actually prefer the fake "See on See" to the authentic version. Any idea who authored the fakes? Altered:Carbon Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/54655-algorithms-of-max-msp-in-oversteps/page/2/#findComment-1311128 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest serendipity Posted April 29, 2010 Report Share Posted April 29, 2010 Supercollider is also perfect for semi-generative melodies with a given set of rules. Max/msp is not the end-all be-all. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/54655-algorithms-of-max-msp-in-oversteps/page/2/#findComment-1311136 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweepstakes Posted April 29, 2010 Report Share Posted April 29, 2010 On 4/29/2010 at 9:53 AM, serendipity said: Supercollider is also perfect for semi-generative melodies with a given set of rules. Max/msp is not the end-all be-all. How is the MIDI support? I'm using Reaktor right now and it sounds great, but I use the mouse all day at work and it would be nice to have something similar but keyboard-based. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/54655-algorithms-of-max-msp-in-oversteps/page/2/#findComment-1311245 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Greg Reason Posted April 29, 2010 Report Share Posted April 29, 2010 oh God this gem of a thread is back Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/54655-algorithms-of-max-msp-in-oversteps/page/2/#findComment-1311310 Share on other sites More sharing options...
awepittance Posted April 29, 2010 Report Share Posted April 29, 2010 (edited) On 4/29/2010 at 3:01 PM, sweepstakes said: On 4/29/2010 at 9:53 AM, serendipity said: Supercollider is also perfect for semi-generative melodies with a given set of rules. Max/msp is not the end-all be-all. How is the MIDI support? I'm using Reaktor right now and it sounds great, but I use the mouse all day at work and it would be nice to have something similar but keyboard-based. if you are already into Reaktor, supercollider will seem rather high level in comparison. I couldnt get into super collider because it was very close to actual programming Code, it reminds me a lot more of Csound than it does of Max/msp or reaktor here are my 2 cents for easy to use generative music making programs Koan Nodal (mac only) Norton (mac only) Numerology (mac only) Plogue Bidule Reaktor PD Buzz Edited April 29, 2010 by Awepittance Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide awepittance's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/54655-algorithms-of-max-msp-in-oversteps/page/2/#findComment-1311678 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweepstakes Posted April 29, 2010 Report Share Posted April 29, 2010 On 4/29/2010 at 11:00 PM, Awepittance said: On 4/29/2010 at 3:01 PM, sweepstakes said: On 4/29/2010 at 9:53 AM, serendipity said: Supercollider is also perfect for semi-generative melodies with a given set of rules. Max/msp is not the end-all be-all. How is the MIDI support? I'm using Reaktor right now and it sounds great, but I use the mouse all day at work and it would be nice to have something similar but keyboard-based. if you are already into Reaktor, supercollider will seem rather high level in comparison. I couldnt get into super collider because it was very close to actual programming Code, it reminds me a lot more of Csound than it does of Max/msp or reaktor here are my 2 cents for easy to use generative music making programs Koan Nodal (mac only) Norton (mac only) Numerology (mac only) Plogue Bidule Reaktor PD Buzz Cool! I'm assuming you mean "low level" - that's fine w/ me, actually that's kind of what I was getting at, I would like something more code-oriented rather than point and click. I don't mind writing code at all, until March I wrote PHP/Javascript/MySQL for a living and I kind of miss programing. I used to use PD on a really slow machine and it just felt really awkward to use. I guess you can write your own C modules but I just wasn't a big fan of the workflow and there were some major structural hangups for me, I think particularly around triggering events with audio. On a PC over here :P Buzz is cool but I have been using too many trackers lately (Renoise, LGPT, LSDJ) and right now I kind of want to just keep it to the portable stuff and Milky for reasons which are hard to explain. But yeah esp. w/ stuff like the peer machines and PyBuzz it's amazing! I tried it last week though, and only 1 MIDI controller though - wtf? I guess forgot about this limitation. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/54655-algorithms-of-max-msp-in-oversteps/page/2/#findComment-1311720 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dementia Posted April 30, 2010 Report Share Posted April 30, 2010 On 4/29/2010 at 8:52 AM, reimdont said: On 4/29/2010 at 6:01 AM, Lascaille said: On 3/24/2010 at 8:13 PM, Jonas said: I don't know if there are fake oversteps releases on soulseek, but submitted to the hype and dl'd it yesterday to check out. Don't worry, I'm not a fan and am about to trash it in the digital bin, BUT am kind of amazed I can recognize FL Studio's Grossbeat vst on the master-out in track 06 'see on see'. Yeah, I think we downloaded the same leak. I actually prefer the fake "See on See" to the authentic version. Any idea who authored the fakes? Altered:Carbon Thanks Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Dementia's signature Hide all signatures Soundcloud Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/54655-algorithms-of-max-msp-in-oversteps/page/2/#findComment-1311903 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest spraaaa Posted April 30, 2010 Report Share Posted April 30, 2010 I've done some sequencers in Bidule and it seems like coding would be better than patching for them, because there are a lot of repeated elements and you'd want them to be a class or an instance or whatever it's called... they take a lot more cpu power than synths because of that too. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/54655-algorithms-of-max-msp-in-oversteps/page/2/#findComment-1311927 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweepstakes Posted April 30, 2010 Report Share Posted April 30, 2010 On 4/30/2010 at 3:44 AM, Mesh Gear Fox said: On 4/29/2010 at 11:00 PM, Awepittance said: On 4/29/2010 at 3:01 PM, sweepstakes said: On 4/29/2010 at 9:53 AM, serendipity said: Supercollider is also perfect for semi-generative melodies with a given set of rules. Max/msp is not the end-all be-all. How is the MIDI support? I'm using Reaktor right now and it sounds great, but I use the mouse all day at work and it would be nice to have something similar but keyboard-based. if you are already into Reaktor, supercollider will seem rather high level in comparison. I couldnt get into super collider because it was very close to actual programming Code, it reminds me a lot more of Csound than it does of Max/msp or reaktor that's basically the same issue I have with it. For that reason it's probably more powerful than max but I like the visual interface to see how the data/signal path is flowing otherwise I get confused easily. In Reaktor, and IIRC in PD as well, there were modules specifically oriented at user interface, display, etc. Does SC have counterparts to these? It seems like this could help a lot with visualizing, or at least debugging. I find debugging a little awkward in Reaktor. I do appreciate the signal flow / modular synth metaphor. But in many cases, code is a far more elegant way to construct data structures. Certain constructs (e.g. sequencers, mixers) lend themselves quite well to object-oriented programming. For example, I'd much rather type out, in one or two lines, the declaration for a 32-element array of channel strip objects than copy + paste starting with a single channel strip module in Max, et al. It's a seemingly minor issue that can grow exponentially. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/54655-algorithms-of-max-msp-in-oversteps/page/2/#findComment-1311933 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweepstakes Posted April 30, 2010 Report Share Posted April 30, 2010 Also, this isn't really relevant but the idea of sticking with a paradigm simply for the sake of purity/clarity reminds me of this. And it's kind of cool/ridiculous. http://rendell-attic.org/gol/tm.htm Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/54655-algorithms-of-max-msp-in-oversteps/page/2/#findComment-1311937 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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