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I'm not happy with any of the bass VSTi's I have


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Guest Lube Saibot
  On 4/13/2010 at 5:09 AM, ET said:
  On 4/12/2010 at 8:13 PM, acid1 said:

There has to be a separation between bass and the midrangy fart stuff people search.

 

will you elaborate further on this?

 

He's just trying to be a purist about absolutely nothing at all.

  On 4/13/2010 at 5:09 AM, ET said:
  On 4/12/2010 at 8:13 PM, acid1 said:

There has to be a separation between bass and the midrangy fart stuff people search.

 

will you elaborate further on this?

 

Seems like most ppl looking for bass advice are actually trying to figure out how to make wobbles and distorted lead sounds instead of sub bass. I was commenting on how people should make the distinction when referring to "bass" or "bass vsts". As such I'm suggesting to process these types of sounds independently from each other via separate buses or completely separate sounds to have an easier mixing process.

 

You can try to combine the two but I'd recommend running the same sound into two different buses and applying different fx to each bus for your filters and eqs and distortions.

 

Lube I have no idea why you have such a raging hard on for me but its not working. You're not puting me in the mood so I suggest you go jerk off and sleep on the couch.

Guest Lube Saibot

I don't care for this backwards rock music approach to bass. Other than busting a sine or 808 kick waveform bass or self-oscillation infra-bass underneath the "lead" bass when the need genuinely arises for making people vacate their bowels, layering is over-rated and the escape of the lazy patch designer. 9 times out of ten, you output a solid hefty signal from your (good) synth of choice and shape, distort and eq properly and it will sound more powerful than fifteen pussy layers playing the same thing with all their discordant incidental intermodulation harmonics. Google that shit if you're incredulous. I my HUMBLE (maybe not so humble, whatever) opinion, it's better to mix tight, sparse and loud and over-layering can detract from that. Not to dismiss layering entirely, i find that for beats it's a godsend approach.

 

It didn't seem to me as this was another thread of "how ir make wobble for dubstepz?!" and i didn't respond accordingly, however if the advice of all the people above contributes to someone making a killer wobbler, yay for them. Good, crunchy, growly bass is good, crunchy, growly bass, whatever the filter envelope and the genre it's used for. And distorting the midrange and low-end of a bass together is a big part of getting "crunch". This is especially apparent if you indeed split the patch and move the midrange provider up a few semitones, essentially making a chord (perfect fifths are best for basses and will most likely not clash with the rest of your chord structure), it starts growling instantly. This is ONE thing one can take from the rock approach.

 

Acid1, you are an annoying apparition thankfully confined to haunting EKT. Kindly banish yourself, stick to "analogue" (I'm an analogue user myself but i bet you just LOOOOVEEE that word) bubbly 303 squelches or whatever you get a chubby for and shut the fuck up. Or maybe, just maybe, try to output some kind of EKT contribution that isn't some insubstantial pathetic posturing.

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Guest Helper ET
  On 4/13/2010 at 6:33 PM, Lube Saibot said:

I don't care for this backwards rock music approach to bass. Other than busting a sine or 808 kick waveform bass or self-oscillation infra-bass underneath the "lead" bass when the need genuinely arises for making people vacate their bowels, layering is over-rated and the escape of the lazy patch designer. 9 times out of ten, you output a solid hefty signal from your (good) synth of choice and shape, distort and eq properly and it will sound more powerful than fifteen pussy layers playing the same thing with all their discordant incidental intermodulation harmonics. Google that shit if you're incredulous. I my HUMBLE (maybe not so humble, whatever) opinion, it's better to mix tight, sparse and loud and over-layering can detract from that. Not to dismiss layering entirely, i find that for beats it's a godsend approach.

 

It didn't seem to me as this was another thread of "how ir make wobble for dubstepz?!" and i didn't respond accordingly, however if the advice of all the people above contributes to someone making a killer wobbler, yay for them. Good, crunchy, growly bass is good, crunchy, growly bass, whatever the filter envelope and the genre it's used for. And distorting the midrange and low-end of a bass together is a big part of getting "crunch". This is especially apparent if you indeed split the patch and move the midrange provider up a few semitones, essentially making a chord (perfect fifths are best for basses and will most likely not clash with the rest of your chord structure), it starts growling instantly. This is ONE thing one can take from the rock approach.

 

Acid1, you are an annoying apparition thankfully confined to haunting EKT. Kindly banish yourself, stick to "analogue" (I'm an analogue user myself but i bet you just LOOOOVEEE that word) bubbly 303 squelches or whatever you get a chubby for and shut the fuck up. Or maybe, just maybe, try to output some kind of EKT contribution that isn't some insubstantial pathetic posturing.

 

crackhead

  • 3 weeks later...
  On 4/8/2010 at 10:14 AM, Squee said:

 

I've been fooling around with all the contra basses but I think the lack of really good old school analogue basses - such as the MS10 & MS20... but as far as I remember the MS10 & MS20 are both sampled in Trillian! WOoh!

 

 

OK, one time ms-20 owner here...can someone explain the 'magic' of that box? I sold it for a modular and I'm SO glad I did...

I dig trilian as well and highly recommend it.... though I still can't find anything that replicates an anologue bass very well, so I'm saving up for a 5-string J-bass or Stingray :D

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