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  On 5/25/2010 at 3:52 AM, vamos scorcho said:

last weekend i was at a club outside...i had injested 100 mg of adderall...

 

in my opinion, no good relationship (emotional or even just sexual) starts with 100mg of adderall. drugs are fun but rarely facilitate anything meaningful. getting comfortable with yourself, and gaining confidence in yourself, may mean being yourself, without chemical enhancement.

 

unless you just wanna get loaded and bang chicks, in which case carry on...

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  On 5/25/2010 at 11:58 AM, keltoi said:

people who think there is a game tend to get played.

 

Umm, care to share your research data?

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I can't tell you how much this depresses me. I find it hard to even read a thread like this, I get this sick feeling in my stomach...

 

I need a place to meet girls so I can employ these tactics, or any tactics, period. My problem is that I don't drink. Any suggestions?

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  On 5/25/2010 at 3:53 PM, carthief said:

I can't tell you how much this depresses me. I find it hard to even read a thread like this, I get this sick feeling in my stomach...

 

I need a place to meet girls so I can employ these tactics, or any tactics, period. My problem is that I don't drink. Any suggestions?

 

Have you ever looked outside, theyre everywhere.

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  On 5/25/2010 at 2:45 PM, acidphakist said:
  On 5/25/2010 at 11:58 AM, keltoi said:

people who think there is a game tend to get played.

 

Umm, care to share your research data?

 

shallow fake people attract shallow fake people attract shallow fake people attract shallow fake people attract shallow fake people attract shallow fake people attract shallow fake people attract shallow fake people....

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  On 5/25/2010 at 11:58 AM, keltoi said:
^ most sense.

 

people who think there is a game tend to get played.

 

agreed.. it's not a game. it's about having empathy. you can't expect girls to do all the work. think about what the person you are talking to is feeling instead of getting all up tight in knots and being absolutely no fun to be around whatsoever. most people want to have fun, they don't want to jump off the deep end just cuz they made eye contact with you. enjoy the encounters instead of dreading them. lots of people feel unspoken attraction for each other, it's a perfectly normal, great mutually shared natural high.. roll with it and smile, if you dread your own inner nature people will probably be able to tell

 

(i used to be the most introverted awkward and x-tian induced guilt-ridden person ever :emotawesomepm9: )

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  On 5/25/2010 at 4:14 PM, keltoi said:

shallow fake people attract shallow fake people attract shallow fake people attract shallow fake people attract shallow fake people attract shallow fake people attract shallow fake people attract shallow fake people....

 

fortunately it usually becomes obvious fairly quickly just who these people are :wink:

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  On 5/25/2010 at 4:14 PM, keltoi said:
  On 5/25/2010 at 2:45 PM, acidphakist said:
  On 5/25/2010 at 11:58 AM, keltoi said:

people who think there is a game tend to get played.

 

Umm, care to share your research data?

 

shallow fake people attract shallow fake people attract shallow fake people attract shallow fake people attract shallow fake people attract shallow fake people attract shallow fake people attract shallow fake people....

 

 

I don't recall advocating being fake. And maybe "game" is the wrong word. But it definitely is a protocol. And you can learn the protocol. There may even be exploits in the protocol.

 

The PUA I read was fascinating: it was the writing of men, not even very educated, essentially reverse engineering several facets of psychology and biology.

 

The only tactic I employ that you might find shallow and fake is Mystery's "neg". If someone is being snotty, don't we love taking them down a notch in a non-threatening way? Why should it be any different when interfacing with a pretty girl?

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disclaimer: this is not to acidphakist specifically but to anyone else who advocates creepy insecure misogynistic bullshit

 

Because it makes you a spineless asshole. Because it's pure hypocrisy. You might say... "Oh love you've got some baby-fat going eh?" or some of this facetious bullshit to essentially "put her down to your level"... Well then, even if it works, you're the one banging a chubster that evening, at least in your mind, aren't you? Also the basis of this tactic is pure fucking bollocks in the first place... you're trying to make her feel like shit to level the playing field? That means you feel like shit, mate. And that vibe you're broadcasting... she's picking that up. If you need to neg her to peg her... chances are she's already confident enough that she'll turn that neg around on you and either pwn you embarrassingly or, best case scenario, just put you in your place.

 

The truth is, it IS reverse engineering, it's reverse engineering of what comes naturally to grown-up level-headed men. If you LIKE women, ACT LIKE THAT. In every woman there's a daughter, a mother, a lover, a warrior. Even dumb skanks have a complexity and a depth to them that is simply intoxicating. Make women feel challenged, protected, nurtured and a little bit controlled. It's not hard and it's not a series of fucking tricks by some douchebag who paints his eyebrows on every morning, it has more to do with you finding your inner man. If you treat women like wild game, you amount them to nothing more than meat. If that's your thing, you might as well fuck two steaks held together with cheddar.

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the bit of wisdom i can offer after being very upset for the past few days about stupid shit and getting caught up in anger / feelings of worthlessness / powerlessness in the face of love/sexual attraction:

 

do not talk about women like they are something special to be talked about and figured out - do not talk about "the game" - do not think about any of it - just be yourself and be natural and love all people - don't worry! it's all about love in the end in my opinion, not buttfucking (though enjoy it when it comes!), so just be yourself and don't worry about trying to attract women. just enjoy life and enjoy yourself. and when you meet someone with that thing in their eye, then think about it and maybe even do something about it!

 

so basically i'm reiterating what others have said, and i'm backing down from whatever stupid shit i said last night, i was drunk

 

i also apologized to my ex this morning after calling her a shitlicker at the peak of my drunkenness

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  On 5/25/2010 at 6:43 PM, Lube Saibot said:
If you LIKE women, ACT LIKE THAT.

 

Careful, you've just given away the secret. :smile:

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  On 5/25/2010 at 6:43 PM, Lube Saibot said:

disclaimer: this is not to acidphakist specifically but to anyone else who advocates creepy insecure misogynistic bullshit

 

Because it makes you a spineless asshole. Because it's pure hypocrisy. You might say... "Oh love you've got some baby-fat going eh?" or some of this facetious bullshit to essentially "put her down to your level"... Well then, even if it works, you're the one banging a chubster that evening, at least in your mind, aren't you? Also the basis of this tactic is pure fucking bollocks in the first place... you're trying to make her feel like shit to level the playing field? That means you feel like shit, mate. And that vibe you're broadcasting... she's picking that up. If you need to neg her to peg her... chances are she's already confident enough that she'll turn that neg around on you and either pwn you embarrassingly or, best case scenario, just put you in your place.

 

The truth is, it IS reverse engineering, it's reverse engineering of what comes naturally to grown-up level-headed men. If you LIKE women, ACT LIKE THAT. In every woman there's a daughter, a mother, a lover, a warrior. Even dumb skanks have a complexity and a depth to them that is simply intoxicating. Make women feel challenged, protected, nurtured and a little bit controlled. It's not hard and it's not a series of fucking tricks by some douchebag who paints his eyebrows on every morning, it has more to do with you finding your inner man. If you treat women like wild game, you amount them to nothing more than meat. If that's your thing, you might as well fuck two steaks held together with cheddar.

 

 

No offense taken, because I don't engage in "creepy insecure misogynistic bullshit".

 

I'll excuse your myopic view of what a level-headed grown man's outlook on women might be. That shit's cultural. The US of A is puritanical. Add to that an upbringing in a conservative Christian family and you end up with a guy that most likely puts the poon on the pedestal.

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employing the use of psychology to essentially trick dumb women into sleeping with you *is actually* creepy, insecure, and misogynistic.

 

i mean you say you don't actually do this, but you do view it as ~*ThE GaMe*~ which in and of itself is pretty goddamn misogynistic.

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  On 5/25/2010 at 5:22 AM, yek said:
  On 5/25/2010 at 4:52 AM, 24ourange said:
  On 5/25/2010 at 4:33 AM, Adjective said:

just stop looking for someone. get comfortable with yourself and your life. when the opposite sex talks to you, don't think "this is my chance!," just be yourself. people will probably be more tempted to be around you when they feel you're not trying to get something out of them.

 

im still waiting for this to startin workin for me.

no doubt

word.

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one of my many break-ups: my first ever girlfriend, the only girl i've ever been in love with.

been going out for ages, it's our anniversary, haven't seen her in a week or two because i'd just started university. bought her a necklace.

rang her up to arrange to meet up - she says she's busy on our anniversary doing christmas shopping.

how about the day after then? still busy. day after that? ok then.

arrived at her house, she sat me down and she said that she'd been seeing someone else for a month. didn't want to tell me over the phone.

i gave her the necklace, left, sat in my car and cried. drove home and sat in my flat in bristol listening to slowdive and drinking red wine out of the bottle on my own.

then i thought, fuck her, and met up with some friends, got drunk and they cheered me up massively.

it's just a character building experience - the kind of experience that makes you who you are.

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  On 5/25/2010 at 8:00 PM, acidphakist said:
The US of A is puritanical. Add to that an upbringing in a conservative Christian family and you end up with a guy that most likely puts the poon on the pedestal.

 

Not to jump in on the argument, just to note on that last sentence.. I hear you there. When I was raised believing in Jeebus our church didn't even want a guy and a girl to hang out alone in case they got on the funny business.. they called it inappropriate. It was so ridiculous. It's exactly like they were implying that every time a girl talks to you alone, expect to get it on. People raised in such fundie environments might have such a f'n hard time of it and not even meaning to be misogynists, they're just completely socially naive

 

:facepalm:

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  On 5/25/2010 at 8:46 PM, TwiddleBot said:
  On 5/25/2010 at 8:00 PM, acidphakist said:
The US of A is puritanical. Add to that an upbringing in a conservative Christian family and you end up with a guy that most likely puts the poon on the pedestal.

 

Not to jump in on the argument, just to note on that last sentence.. I hear you there. When I was raised believing in Jeebus our church didn't even want a guy and a girl to hang out alone in case they got on the funny business.. they called it inappropriate. It was so ridiculous. It's exactly like they were implying that every time a girl talks to you alone, expect to get it on. People raised in such fundie environments might have such a f'n hard time of it and not even meaning to be misogynists, they're just completely socially naive

 

:facepalm:

 

that i can't disagree with, sex being seen as something that's morally wrong fucks people (me lol) up hardcore. that said, the opposite is true as well. people who see it as a game are just as fucked in the head, regardless of gender sexuality or whatever. gotta find that happy medium where there's some respect.

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:emotawesomepm9:

 

(yeeahh.. waaay too much time on my hands today--at work)

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