Has anyone had anger management therapy?

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lol thats not actually radiohead related is it?

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i just put it in comic sans, but i don't have the heart to post that

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I assume you are getting angry and acting upon impulses and later feeling regret/remorse (which may lead to more anger).

try sitting on it (alone, maybe some quiet music), for 20mins a few times a week, and ask yourself 'what makes me angry?' 'when did I start getting angry?' and other questions that follow. write down the answers. this is kind of like free therapy. especially do this when you are angry (if possible) and note how your physically feel different from when not angry (eg hot parts of body, tension, swimmming cloudy mind feelings, pressure on chest, tightness in throat etc) and watch for changes in these physical things. this helps you recognise anger as a physical reaction and distance your mind from it (hopefully)

Although others may make you angry, you own your own behavior and reactions to angry emotions and should become responsible. you should get to the point where you are like 'oh I am feeling anger! interesting! it's getting worse. oh now its going away. ah it's gone.' and there should be less face punching etc.

If you already do all this: move, go on an OE, quit your job, quit your girlfriend, make some changes.

ps: this will not work for everyone, esp if you hate hippie shit. and if you are in serious trouble, see a doctor and get some chill pills etc

pps: if it is when you are drinking, cut down a bit.

  On 6/5/2010 at 1:14 AM, loganfive said:

  On 6/5/2010 at 1:00 AM, impakt said:

  On 6/5/2010 at 12:47 AM, analogue wings said:

are you sleeping ok?

 

how much coffee do you drink?

 

anything recreational you could cut down on?

 

Those are not the issue. The issue is my burning hatred for the human kind and all the sub-human shitters around me that can't meet any standards of decency.

 

They are dumb, illiterate, slow, retarded, annoying shits.

 

 

you don't need therapy. you are absolutely right in your judgements.

 

anger is a positive emotion which we have been bullied into relinquishing.

 

i mean for fucks sake you raise a complaint about the service you receive with a slightly frowny expression and within seconds, some secondary drag on the evolutionary scale is calling security and accusing you of assault because you talked to them with a slightly louder voice than average.

 

plus, people are cunts. stupid cunts at that. stupid, slow, selfish cunts.

 

carry on....

Sorry but this is like telling a depressed person what they feel is completely reasonable and theyre probably as sad and pathetic as they think they are.

Utterly judging huge sweeps of people in an incredibly cynical fashion is in no way a "right" judgement. Nor is anger a "positive" emotion. Anger isnt a bad thing, but if you let it control you, you can be come addicted to it, and it will ultimately lead to lots of suffering for yourself and others.

I get that some people are just angry, and i enjoy those people in small doses, but if thats not how you've always felt, and you're ok with continuing to be that way, then it's fine, but if you can remember times when youve been comfortable in yourself, then i highly recommend at least attempting to find a way to get some more contentment in your life.

  On 6/5/2010 at 1:59 AM, loganfive said:

yeah, boo hoo mate, tell it to rikki lake.

 

 

edit: if you genuinely believe that you are a product, in totality, of your environment, and that a bit of actual understanding and effort on your part are too difficult to engage yourself with... essentially that there's nothing you can do about it, then i pity you.

 

 

if you feel like 'other less fortunate people' suffer from this affliction, but you, yourself don't, then i pity your elitist view more.

 

 

sooner or later we have to accept responsibility for our own actions and thoughts. if they're fucked up then it's up to us to crumble beneath, or move towards a change.

 

that's called being an adult.

 

 

(for the record, i'm fully aware that socio political/dietary/environmental/educational/etc advantages and disadvantages can shape your life, but at the end of the day, it's your life and it's up to you to sort it out.)

 

edit again: apologies for my cynisism but 'video games', serious lol, plus give me a fucking break from the excuses.

 

 

"video games made me the helpless cunt i am today"

 

 

fuck, we're back to rikki lake... "video games forced me to live in my car", "and rob the 7-11"

I don't understand why you're getting so emotional about this.

Do you understand how we actually make decisions in the brain? You churn things over in your cerebral cortex - this where you learn how to behave by the society you live in -- in other words, society imprints on your brain all the time. This information isn't stored somewhere in the brain where it is innate and inherent in all of us -- that we should all and can have a degree of absolute objective responsibility. This is impossible. Every single decision you take whether small or large is, in some way, whether you like it or not, factored upon an influence in the environment. It could be a small influence on your "responsible" decision or a big influence. I'm merely addressing the fact that humans can not be 100% objective in making responsbile decisions on their own part. You live in a complex environment which you're brain constantly reacts to. That is a specific argument. Yours is filled with emotion, based on zero relevant information.

There's a lot of reasons I can get angry. One of the situations that make me angry is when I give 100% of myself to help a collective push forward and then realizing that the rest of the collective does not do the same, in fact they don't really do anything at all and just let me do all the work. I know that I'm a pathetic piece of shit, but if others can't even measure up to me, what are they then? It is not very rewarding to try hard when your peers don't - and instead hold you back.. I can't do team sports for this very reason and I don't participate in "friendly" competition. I hate to lose, I really really hate it. If it feels like someone else is the reason I'm losing them I'm gonna get pissed fucking angry. If there's only myself to blame, then I'll work on it until I get it perfect.

The anger I feel is intense; it pressures my skull to what feels like the point of breaking, the back of my head feels heavy like a brick wall, my face feels hard as rock, my blood is boiling and my body shaking - the only thing which feels like it can release the pressure is screaming obscenities and punching things.

The worst part is afterwards, I feel tired as fuck. All out of energy and almost hung over.

  On 6/5/2010 at 12:30 AM, sneaksta303 said:

My roommate has. Today, he's broken his 10th phone this year (out of anger i mean), no bullshit. I'm not saying it doesn't work though.

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  On 6/5/2010 at 1:00 AM, impakt said:

  On 6/5/2010 at 12:47 AM, analogue wings said:

are you sleeping ok?

 

how much coffee do you drink?

 

anything recreational you could cut down on?

 

Those are not the issue. The issue is my burning hatred for the human kind and all the sub-human shitters around me that can't meet any standards of decency.

 

They are dumb, illiterate, slow, retarded, annoying shits.

and you live in Norway. Just imagine if you lived in the US or the UK. You'd be dead probably.

  On 6/5/2010 at 1:00 AM, impakt said:

  On 6/5/2010 at 12:47 AM, analogue wings said:

are you sleeping ok?

 

how much coffee do you drink?

 

anything recreational you could cut down on?

 

Those are not the issue. The issue is my burning hatred for the human kind and all the sub-human shitters around me that can't meet any standards of decency.

 

They are dumb, illiterate, slow, retarded, annoying shits.

that's not very zen

i did when i was little. i used to throw things in school (preschool/kindergarten)and just be bad you know. now i'm really mellow. makes me think i wonder if i would have been bad-ass nowadays if i never had therapy

impakt - play some solo sports like squash then. That way when you lose, you have no one else to blame.

bread - yes of course socialisation plays a large role on our behaviours and morals. However, we are also blessed with the ability to think critically. We can use this critical thinking to identify whether or not an issue is a personal trouble or a public issue. This is the basis of C. Wright Mills' seminal work "The Sociological Imagination". Give it a read, or at least the first chapter.

  On 6/5/2010 at 7:44 PM, chenGOD said:

bread - yes of course socialisation plays a large role on our behaviours and morals. However, we are also blessed with the ability to think critically. We can use this critical thinking to identify whether or not an issue is a personal trouble or a public issue. This is the basis of C. Wright Mills' seminal work "The Sociological Imagination". Give it a read, or at least the first chapter.

thanks for the recommendation, I'm always wanting to learn more about sociology. My current social studies comprises of a unit in sociology, which I find to be very interesting.

I agree, critical thought is a great tool for problem solving. On the topic of responsible decision making - I was trying to point out that something like critical thought is a learned experience. I realise everyone, to a certain extent, think critically about things in their everyday lives, from mundane tasks like picking the most affordable groceries to planning ahead on a team meeting discussion at work - But, I would advocate that all critical thought has it's influences from the environment.

It's certainly a complex subject but I'm learning more and more about the neuroscientific understandings of the mind - and critical thought occurs in the cortex areas of the brain where we prefer to take on "learned" behaviours from our environment - critical thought is not necessarily a hardwired product because it usually takes for an environmental stimulus to trigger off the need to think critically in a given situation. Judgments, critical thought, decisions and planning are all cognitive actions and it's a matter of how well, during your upbringing or life experiences you harness these.

Picking the most affordable groceries is not critical thinking. That's called maximizing utility :)

Every action plays out within an environment. Upon some aspects of social life we are able to affect change, and others we are not. Some things have an effect on us, and others do not. Using our sociological imagination, we can better determine what we can change and what we can't as individuals. That would be thinking critically about society, and our responsibility within it.

I've been in mental homes for anger management not just for my drinking. I had it pretty bad, yes the therapy worked, I was actually placed in hospital where I wasn't allowed to leave and I had 3 months of intensive therapy on that shit. It's pretty much udner control now and I have a programme I work around it.

it's never the situation, it's the thoughts of the situation that gets people angry.

the more you attach yourself to negative thoughts, the more inertia they will gain and the more likely you are to get into a climactic fit.

just deep breaths, embracing sentience, and flowing into the imagination. those negative thoughts will pass right by you.

o yea, its called Zen.

i think the only cure for you is a strenuous programme incorporating 2-4 daily anal fistings.

A psychologist once told me to be less self-centered. I got extremely pissed off at her and decided I'd never go back to see her ever again. But she was right. Try to step outside of yourself and don't always approach situations as how they affect only you. Also, try being more empathetic. We are all human and all have complex emotions and mental processes. Sometimes we're so caught up with ourselves that we don't see the world for what it really is.

Just remember that anger is useless. Aggression is an impulse. It doesn't help. It reinforces you to respond the same way in the future. Try to recognize all these things when you're angry. It's true that some anger can be good, though, if you put it towards constructing something. I usually try to channel my anger and turn it into passion. But sometimes you just need an emotional outburst.

Looking at pictures of puppies might help too.

  On 6/5/2010 at 12:26 AM, impakt said:

Replying to Has anyone had anger management therapy?

Hell no, fuck that pussy shit!

  On 6/7/2010 at 8:57 PM, Glunk said:

A psychologist once told me to be less self-centered. I got extremely pissed off at her and decided I'd never go back to see her ever again. But she was right. Try to step outside of yourself and don't always approach situations as how they affect only you. Also, try being more empathetic. We are all human and all have complex emotions and mental processes. Sometimes we're so caught up with ourselves that we don't see the world for what it really is.

 

Just remember that anger is useless. Aggression is an impulse. It doesn't help. It reinforces you to respond the same way in the future. Try to recognize all these things when you're angry. It's true that some anger can be good, though, if you put it towards constructing something. I usually try to channel my anger and turn it into passion. But sometimes you just need an emotional outburst.

 

Looking at pictures of puppies might help too.

I don't think it's possible to not be self-centered. The human mind knows only one POV. Anger isn't a decision, it's a primal urge/reaction and not something I choose - yet it still happens.

Like I said, you are not the smartest, best looking, richest, most talented, most well-read, cultured person on the planet, and you've fucked up plenty of times.

In other words, stop blowing yourself and stop letting other people's actions have that big an effect on your life.

That really isn't how I see things Chen. I KNOW that I'm shit, the thing is I'm so shit that I'm surprised that people can be more shit. But somehow they are.