Guest Greg Reason Posted June 13, 2010 Report Share Posted June 13, 2010 I don't think WATMM should have a strict "IDMZ ONLY PLZ" rule. I think people should just talk about whatever music is doin it for em. Gaga is alright. Her imagery and all is quite well handled so it really surprised me when I heard her album (and EP) because her music is so normal and typical of the genre. She really doesn't break any new ground whatsoever musically. And that makes me think that after she ramps up her imagery to the max she's either going to have to get some really fucking good songs happening or just give up on the whole deal. The later would undoubtedly be an option because it's not like she'll ever have to work again in her life. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/57094-lady-gaga-alejandro/page/2/#findComment-1348699 Share on other sites More sharing options...
goDel Posted June 13, 2010 Report Share Posted June 13, 2010 it's pop dammit. if musical new ground has been broken, it's by complete accident! if hoi polloi likes it, it cannot be earth shattering new. it just can't. and don't tell you think timbaland broke any musical ground. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/57094-lady-gaga-alejandro/page/2/#findComment-1348712 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Z_B_Z Posted June 13, 2010 Report Share Posted June 13, 2010 banal music. hollow imagery. i will say that 'bad romance' grew on me tho. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/57094-lady-gaga-alejandro/page/2/#findComment-1348722 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Greg Reason Posted June 13, 2010 Report Share Posted June 13, 2010 On 6/13/2010 at 9:59 PM, goDel said: it's pop dammit. if musical new ground has been broken, it's by complete accident! if hoi polloi likes it, it cannot be earth shattering new. it just can't. and don't tell you think timbaland broke any musical ground. Rubbish. The Beatles were pop music and they broke more new ground than anyone before or since. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/57094-lady-gaga-alejandro/page/2/#findComment-1348741 Share on other sites More sharing options...
goDel Posted June 13, 2010 Report Share Posted June 13, 2010 see, that's the complete accident i was talking about. and where do you see elvis in all of this? david bowie? hendrix? what is pop anyways? Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/57094-lady-gaga-alejandro/page/2/#findComment-1348746 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Friendly Foil Posted June 13, 2010 Report Share Posted June 13, 2010 (edited) wow this is soooo weird and alternative! Edited June 13, 2010 by Bewarethefriendlyfoil Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/57094-lady-gaga-alejandro/page/2/#findComment-1348749 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragnar Posted June 13, 2010 Report Share Posted June 13, 2010 lady gaga is the venetian snares to madonna's aphex complete with hoovers and shit Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Ragnar's signature Hide all signatures http://djsaint-hubert.bandcamp.com/ Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/57094-lady-gaga-alejandro/page/2/#findComment-1348750 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Greg Reason Posted June 13, 2010 Report Share Posted June 13, 2010 On 6/13/2010 at 10:32 PM, goDel said: see, that's the complete accident i was talking about. and where do you see elvis in all of this? david bowie? hendrix? what is pop anyways? Seeing as the term Pop Music is a shortening of Popular Music I think our definition is pretty clearcut Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/57094-lady-gaga-alejandro/page/2/#findComment-1348751 Share on other sites More sharing options...
xeQYcJWNBz Posted June 13, 2010 Report Share Posted June 13, 2010 I haven't heard the song or seen the video, but I heard it pissed of catholics, so that's good I guess Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/57094-lady-gaga-alejandro/page/2/#findComment-1348764 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Greg Reason Posted June 13, 2010 Report Share Posted June 13, 2010 On 6/13/2010 at 10:42 PM, triachus said: I haven't heard the song or seen the video, but I heard it pissed of catholics, so that's good I guess Haha yeah like Katy Perry, moral defender of the faith that she is............... Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/57094-lady-gaga-alejandro/page/2/#findComment-1348778 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tht tne Posted June 13, 2010 Report Share Posted June 13, 2010 On 6/13/2010 at 10:49 PM, Greg Reason said: On 6/13/2010 at 10:42 PM, triachus said: I haven't heard the song or seen the video, but I heard it pissed of catholics, so that's good I guess Haha yeah like Katy Perry, moral defender of the faith that she is............... say whatsoever you will, but katy perry has bigger ta-tas than lady gaga Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/57094-lady-gaga-alejandro/page/2/#findComment-1348782 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Greg Reason Posted June 13, 2010 Report Share Posted June 13, 2010 On 6/13/2010 at 10:51 PM, tht tne said: On 6/13/2010 at 10:49 PM, Greg Reason said: On 6/13/2010 at 10:42 PM, triachus said: I haven't heard the song or seen the video, but I heard it pissed of catholics, so that's good I guess Haha yeah like Katy Perry, moral defender of the faith that she is............... say whatsoever you will, but katy perry has bigger ta-tas than lady gaga yeah I know, they're fantastic, and they spare me from ever having to look at that snotty face of hers Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/57094-lady-gaga-alejandro/page/2/#findComment-1348784 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tht tne Posted June 13, 2010 Report Share Posted June 13, 2010 On 6/13/2010 at 10:53 PM, Greg Reason said: On 6/13/2010 at 10:51 PM, tht tne said: On 6/13/2010 at 10:49 PM, Greg Reason said: On 6/13/2010 at 10:42 PM, triachus said: I haven't heard the song or seen the video, but I heard it pissed of catholics, so that's good I guess Haha yeah like Katy Perry, moral defender of the faith that she is............... say whatsoever you will, but katy perry has bigger ta-tas than lady gaga yeah I know, they're fantastic, and they spare me from ever having to look at that snotty face of hers additionally and what's more, katy perry did a response track to that stupid "n.y. state of mind" track by jay-z and alicia keys; i hate that song Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/57094-lady-gaga-alejandro/page/2/#findComment-1348799 Share on other sites More sharing options...
goDel Posted June 13, 2010 Report Share Posted June 13, 2010 haha i love that track! o and btw, aphex is pop! Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/57094-lady-gaga-alejandro/page/2/#findComment-1348826 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Greg Reason Posted June 13, 2010 Report Share Posted June 13, 2010 On 6/13/2010 at 11:11 PM, goDel said: haha i love that track! o and btw, aphex is pop! He is Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/57094-lady-gaga-alejandro/page/2/#findComment-1348837 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwiddleBot Posted June 13, 2010 Report Share Posted June 13, 2010 entire chunks of this song are reminiscent of ace of bass 'don't turn around'. kind of a cool video tho i guess. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide TwiddleBot's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/57094-lady-gaga-alejandro/page/2/#findComment-1348842 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Al5x Posted June 13, 2010 Report Share Posted June 13, 2010 (edited) Lady gaga to me is simply the queen of attention whores, she has an eye for weird things and an ear for all things catchy. Great pop star material, & you probably don't even have to tell her what to do like you would somebody like Britney Spears. A lot of very impressionable people often tell me I don't understand Gaga, that shes a classically trained jazz pianist and a just a genius musician in general. I have seen youtube videos of the Stefani Germanotta band and I quite liked what she was doing but nowadays she just has RedOne produce all her beats (except for like one track i think)...and with that the argument flies out the window. I think behind all the bullshit there is a very clever girl who should have never let the industry take hold of her. I think at some point she had a vision and she still seems to be a creative mind, but she's letting too many people concerned with selling records give her advice. Edited June 13, 2010 by Al5x Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/57094-lady-gaga-alejandro/page/2/#findComment-1348846 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Greg Reason Posted June 13, 2010 Report Share Posted June 13, 2010 I dunno, she seems to be doing things on her own terms. I think she still gets her ideas put in front of everyone else's, I just think she wants to make fuckloads of money. Which she is doing. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/57094-lady-gaga-alejandro/page/2/#findComment-1348853 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwiddleBot Posted June 13, 2010 Report Share Posted June 13, 2010 if that's the case maybe she'll make a couple catchy records then begin subverting her fans with cooler music that attempts to match the edgy cyberpunky fetishy vibe of her vids Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide TwiddleBot's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/57094-lady-gaga-alejandro/page/2/#findComment-1348854 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tht tne Posted June 13, 2010 Report Share Posted June 13, 2010 On 6/13/2010 at 11:22 PM, Al5x said: Lady gaga to me is simply the queen of attention whores, she has an eye for weird things and an ear for all things catchy. Great pop star material, & you probably don't even have to tell her what to do like you would somebody like Britney Spears. A lot of very impressionable people often tell me I don't understand Gaga, that shes a classically trained jazz pianist and a just a genius musician in general. I have seen youtube videos of the Stefani Germanotta band and I quite liked what she was doing but nowadays she just has RedOne produce all her beats (except for like one track i think)...and with that the argument flies out the window. I think behind all the bullshit there is a very clever girl who should have never let the industry take hold of her. I think at some point she had a vision and she still seems to be a creative mind, but she's letting too many people concerned with selling records give her advice. redone is a pretty sick producer Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/57094-lady-gaga-alejandro/page/2/#findComment-1348856 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Al5x Posted June 13, 2010 Report Share Posted June 13, 2010 This is true. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/57094-lady-gaga-alejandro/page/2/#findComment-1348861 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandi_B Posted June 14, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 14, 2010 (edited) On 6/13/2010 at 11:27 PM, tht tne said: redone is a pretty sick producer Yes. A lot of great ear candy in his productions. That high pass sweep a lil after the beginning of alejandro is a good example. Edited June 14, 2010 by Brandi_B Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/57094-lady-gaga-alejandro/page/2/#findComment-1348985 Share on other sites More sharing options...
guyd Posted June 14, 2010 Report Share Posted June 14, 2010 Everytime I hear this song I want to stab someone...therefore I don't think I can watch this Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/57094-lady-gaga-alejandro/page/2/#findComment-1349207 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tht tne Posted June 14, 2010 Report Share Posted June 14, 2010 On 6/14/2010 at 12:53 AM, Brandi_B said: On 6/13/2010 at 11:27 PM, tht tne said: redone is a pretty sick producer Yes. A lot of great ear candy in his productions. That high pass sweep a lil after the beginning of alejandro is a good example. oddly enough all i have heard of his outside of gaga is the following: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n9oykNkctqE http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YkyhvCdJ_vM Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/57094-lady-gaga-alejandro/page/2/#findComment-1349211 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bigs Posted June 14, 2010 Report Share Posted June 14, 2010 accept gaga as your goddess. she's in on her own joke, having her cake and eating it, too. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/57094-lady-gaga-alejandro/page/2/#findComment-1349278 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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