Ken Robinsons says school kills creativity.

not gonna try embed that but it's a really entertaining speech about how robinson feels that public education, was developed, essentially, in the 19th century to mould people into good industrial workers.

i feel he makes a good point; we should embrace peoples talents as they are rather than forcing them to "use their head, slightly to one side".

check it out, y0!

seen this ages ago, like the bit where he's like 'university professors see their body as a means to move their head different places'

Saw this too and totally agree. I'd love a complete overhaul in the way we educate.

i should probably be embarrased to admit this but i didn't actually know who Ken Robinson was before this. I like that guy.

amazing, bravo to this class act dude

if i ever have kids, id seriously consider home schooling them.

This is cracking, and I agree.

It's a shame nothing will ever be done about it though.

2+2=5

CREATYVITI!!!

He's pretty much saying exactly what everyone's been saying about afx in that thread about how he disregards music theory or whatever.

after hanging out with hookers with no formal education who don't know how to read a map, or what's inside your head (what's a "brain"?), I have to say at least a basic education serves a purpose.

  On 6/19/2010 at 4:16 AM, Al5x said:

He's pretty much saying exactly what everyone's been saying about afx in that thread about how he disregards music theory or whatever.

so basically we all need to be aphex twin

there is no direct link for creativity serving a purpose in the designated careers that keep society running. Its not needed to keep things as is

  On 6/19/2010 at 4:49 AM, lumpenprol said:

after hanging out with hookers with no formal education who don't know how to read a map, or what's inside your head (what's a "brain"?), I have to say at least a basic education serves a purpose.

basic education does. but once you get into high school, it's just pointless fluff that almost no one needs

  On 6/19/2010 at 5:54 AM, Calx Sherbet said:

  On 6/19/2010 at 4:49 AM, lumpenprol said:

after hanging out with hookers with no formal education who don't know how to read a map, or what's inside your head (what's a "brain"?), I have to say at least a basic education serves a purpose.

 

basic education does. but once you get into high school, it's just pointless fluff that almost no one needs

its not even about one being better than the other, its more about awarding all choices/paths. einstein is a strong example of someone who was a rebel and ignored accepted theories, he focused more on his imagination

  On 6/19/2010 at 5:58 AM, karmakramer said:

  On 6/19/2010 at 5:54 AM, Calx Sherbet said:

  On 6/19/2010 at 4:49 AM, lumpenprol said:

after hanging out with hookers with no formal education who don't know how to read a map, or what's inside your head (what's a "brain"?), I have to say at least a basic education serves a purpose.

 

basic education does. but once you get into high school, it's just pointless fluff that almost no one needs

 

its not even about one being better than the other, its more about awarding all choices/paths. einstein is a strong example of someone who was a rebel and ignored accepted theories, he focused more on his imagination

true, but it's more often that people are just lazy deadbeats who don't wanna finish school

  On 6/19/2010 at 3:25 AM, Kcinsu said:

if i ever have kids, id seriously consider home schooling them.

Please don't. They lose out on learning how to socially interact with others. Which is something that needs to be enhanced.

Schooling definitely needs an overhaul: universities used to be places where you learned how to think critically and apply yourself to problems, more and more they are being seen as degree mills.

A lot of schools have responded to this by offering inter-disciplinary degrees that combine arts and sciences.

Still, school only beats creativity out of you if you let it. (oh and by the way, graduating from high school is NOT necessary for going to post-secondary education).

Keep in mind this guy is English, so the schools he has in mind are gothic prisons filled with pugilism, homosexuality, and wizards

  On 6/19/2010 at 6:44 AM, chenGOD said:

 

 

Still, school only beats creativity out of you if you let it. (oh and by the way, graduating from high school is NOT necessary for going to post-secondary education).

I do believe this is actually true worldwide. I did not finish high school, but was able to enter an "entry-level" course at college and move onto a further three years of education.

  On 6/19/2010 at 6:47 AM, lumpenprol said:

Keep in mind this guy is English, so the schools he has in mind are gothic prisons filled with pugilism, homosexuality, and wizards

And mashed potatoes.

the follow-up speech he did is good as well

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9LelXa3U_I

  On 6/19/2010 at 7:28 AM, abusivegeorge said:

  On 6/19/2010 at 6:44 AM, chenGOD said:

 

 

Still, school only beats creativity out of you if you let it. (oh and by the way, graduating from high school is NOT necessary for going to post-secondary education).

 

I do believe this is actually true worldwide. I did not finish high school, but was able to enter an "entry-level" course at college and move onto a further three years of education.

true in the states, i dropped out, got my GED and got into some good 4 year schools based on my SAT scores alone. of course, i dropped out of said 4 year school as well. sigh. oh well, hopefully going back this fall.

http://www.maa.org/devlin/lockhartslament.pdf

Set an hour aside to read that story, it's related and a very good read.

Yeah, there is the socialization aspect, but certainly there are other ways to provide that?

when i think of home schooling, i think of uneducated fundamentalist christians who are afraid of the liberal brainwashing in public schools.

  On 6/19/2010 at 3:25 AM, Kcinsu said:

if i ever have kids, id seriously consider home schooling them.

me to I never enjoyed public school one bit, Home schooling would solve alot of todays problems and for those kids that dont behave themselfs, Boarding school for them