BCM Posted August 11, 2010 Report Share Posted August 11, 2010 (edited) just because the speaker cone/diaphragm vibrates does not mean it is a moving part. this is why I get annoyed with audiophiles (especially bandwagon audiophiles) - they often have no idea of the basic concepts of mechanics, manufacturing processes, or indeed common logic and sorry, often talk so much utter nonsense it's just funny. the bad part is that a lot of people listen to it and take it as gospel. Edited August 11, 2010 by BCM Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide BCM's signature Hide all signatures Bandcamp | Spotify | SoundCloud | Amazon | Apple Music | YouTube | YouTube Music | Deezer | Google Play Music Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/58677-how-do-you-properly/page/2/#findComment-1391759 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Blanket Fort Collapse Posted August 11, 2010 Report Share Posted August 11, 2010 so you think its completely and utterly impossible that the diaphragm could loosen up in the slightest from pushing decibels, slowly massaging the cone to sound less ridged? Even if spectral difference is a half a decibel on certain frequencies the tonality sure does seem quite feasible to slightly change. I swear on my bastard of a grandsons aborted fetus that after time rock/metal albums with really distorted guitars and bass sounded nearly disappointingly harsh to my anal retentive ears on both of my hd280s before lots of use. Swear on my left nipple that now the tonality of distorted tones sound much less abrasive on these cans. Not just trying to buy into audiophile wise tails. Even if I was a millionaire you wont see me buying 3 thousand dollar power cables for my tube headphone preamp. Wont be buying stones from Nicaragua to set next to my studio monitors either. I personally and honestly feel it made a difference with my cans no doubt. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/58677-how-do-you-properly/page/2/#findComment-1391776 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berk Posted August 11, 2010 Report Share Posted August 11, 2010 (edited) just enjoy the musics, wouldn't worry too much about it if I were you Edited August 11, 2010 by Berk Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Berk's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/58677-how-do-you-properly/page/2/#findComment-1391777 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest iamabe Posted August 11, 2010 Report Share Posted August 11, 2010 On 8/11/2010 at 12:44 PM, oscillik said: On 8/11/2010 at 10:41 AM, BCM said: lol burning in headphones....what the fuck...they're fucking headphones not a V8. ridiculous audiophile nonsense. lol kneejerk reaction to a subject i have no knowledge about....what the fuck...i have no idea what i'm talking about yet i'm still gonna have an opinion that is diametrically opposed to what is actually the case. ridiculous clueless nonsense. hhaha Oscillik this made me laugh. on the subject, lol @ monster cables ... i'm sure someone notices a difference. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/58677-how-do-you-properly/page/2/#findComment-1391781 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chim Posted August 11, 2010 Report Share Posted August 11, 2010 Guess what, you hear what you want to hear. Burn them in if you think that will make them sound better. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/58677-how-do-you-properly/page/2/#findComment-1391786 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCM Posted August 11, 2010 Report Share Posted August 11, 2010 what else can be burned in? i might try burning in my new fridge. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide BCM's signature Hide all signatures Bandcamp | Spotify | SoundCloud | Amazon | Apple Music | YouTube | YouTube Music | Deezer | Google Play Music Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/58677-how-do-you-properly/page/2/#findComment-1391959 Share on other sites More sharing options...
foresense Posted August 11, 2010 Report Share Posted August 11, 2010 Man burning in is probably just getting used to them yourself, I know it took a while for me to get adjusted to good earphones when I finally got them.. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide foresense's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/58677-how-do-you-properly/page/2/#findComment-1392083 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kakapo Posted August 12, 2010 Report Share Posted August 12, 2010 (edited) 'Burning in' speakers and headphones is pretty well documented. There is some scepticism, but nothing on the same scale as that reserved for the audiophile bollocks about cables etc. Personally, I believe it. It will vary between products, but both my Sony 7509s(originals) and MA B2s speakers needed a few weeks. Edit: And in answer to the original question, just use them. That way if it is bollocks you haven't wasted your time. Edited August 12, 2010 by kakapo Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/58677-how-do-you-properly/page/2/#findComment-1392123 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCM Posted August 12, 2010 Report Share Posted August 12, 2010 fuck you kakapo. fuck it. fuck I'm drunk and it's only wednesday. send a load of pizzas and taxis round someone's house. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide BCM's signature Hide all signatures Bandcamp | Spotify | SoundCloud | Amazon | Apple Music | YouTube | YouTube Music | Deezer | Google Play Music Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/58677-how-do-you-properly/page/2/#findComment-1392133 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kakapo Posted August 12, 2010 Report Share Posted August 12, 2010 On 8/12/2010 at 12:22 AM, BCM said: fuck you kakapo. fuck it. fuck I'm drunk and it's only wednesday. send a load of pizzas and taxis round someone's house. That's just not good enough. Lube Saibot has accused me of being quixotic towards him. I had to look it up. That's raising the fucking bar. A fuck you kakapo doesn't mean shit anymore. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/58677-how-do-you-properly/page/2/#findComment-1392157 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCM Posted August 12, 2010 Report Share Posted August 12, 2010 ok I accuse you of regicide Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide BCM's signature Hide all signatures Bandcamp | Spotify | SoundCloud | Amazon | Apple Music | YouTube | YouTube Music | Deezer | Google Play Music Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/58677-how-do-you-properly/page/2/#findComment-1392182 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Adjective Posted August 12, 2010 Report Share Posted August 12, 2010 one way to do it is to generate or download a sample of white noise and loop it. or email your manufacturer and see what they recommend or if they recommend doing it at all. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/58677-how-do-you-properly/page/2/#findComment-1392184 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kakapo Posted August 12, 2010 Report Share Posted August 12, 2010 On 8/12/2010 at 1:34 AM, BCM said: ok I accuse you of regicide One day I will kill joyrex and break the pillars of watmm to bring it crashing down on the heads of the idm foresaken, but not yet BCM, not yet. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/58677-how-do-you-properly/page/2/#findComment-1392206 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tht tne Posted August 12, 2010 Report Share Posted August 12, 2010 On 8/12/2010 at 2:28 AM, kakapo said: On 8/12/2010 at 1:34 AM, BCM said: ok I accuse you of regicide One day I will kill joyrex and break the pillars of watmm to bring it crashing down on the heads of the idm foresaken, but not yet BCM, not yet. my style is impetuous; my defense is impregnable Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/58677-how-do-you-properly/page/2/#findComment-1392235 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Blanket Fort Collapse Posted August 12, 2010 Report Share Posted August 12, 2010 who be stupid enough here to have to look up impetuous or impregnable? common try a little harder grandchild Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/58677-how-do-you-properly/page/2/#findComment-1392355 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ian Posted August 12, 2010 Report Share Posted August 12, 2010 It's psychological i reckon, there's no evidence for it... or if there is i've never seen it. Just make sure they're powered correctly, get the ohms right. If they're under powered they won't recreate the sounds as they were 'meant to', but might still sound ok to your preference. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/58677-how-do-you-properly/page/2/#findComment-1392675 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest welcome to the machine Posted August 14, 2010 Report Share Posted August 14, 2010 On 8/11/2010 at 10:41 AM, BCM said: lol burning in headphones....what the fuck...they're fucking headphones not a V8. ridiculous audiophile nonsense. Its very much based on fact, but I don't think its a concern for most speakers/phones these days. The burn-in process doesn't really apply to most modern speaker/phone designs because for one the surrounds are already pretty much as flexible as they get (not true for older speakers, but older speakers would have already played a lot of music anyway!). And for two, the most important burn in process is aligning the coil, web and cone with each other. However this is usually done in the factory before the glue sets (when it is very easy as the glue is still 'wet'), if it wasn't then lining via burning in would help, but I'd be surprised if any speaker/phone company didn't do this as standard these days. No doubt a little settling in occurs after the speakers ship and are used for the first time, but the difference will be TINY. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/58677-how-do-you-properly/page/2/#findComment-1393866 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest welcome to the machine Posted August 14, 2010 Report Share Posted August 14, 2010 tried to edit but it wouldn't let me... the difference would be REALLY tiny, I'd be surprised if anyone could hear it. It takes a couple of seconds to align in the factory so if any company didn't do it I'd be really surprised. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/58677-how-do-you-properly/page/2/#findComment-1393871 Share on other sites More sharing options...
foresense Posted August 14, 2010 Report Share Posted August 14, 2010 On 8/14/2010 at 4:06 AM, welcome to the machine said: tried to edit but it wouldn't let me... the difference would be REALLY tiny, I'd be surprised if anyone could hear it. It takes a couple of seconds to align in the factory so if any company didn't do it I'd be really surprised. I think you're right man, it really sounds like a lot of nonsense. Watched this recently: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYTlN6wjcvQ Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide foresense's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/58677-how-do-you-properly/page/2/#findComment-1394023 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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