Reality isn't real

Lets not forget that the "place" where our universe may have been created does not necessarily have anything in common with our universe, and if this theory is correct, most likely isn't much like what we're in. Any kind of logic or science or anything we have like that is probably irrelevent there.

The first thing that comes to mind after that is "Well then where'd they get all the ideas?" but you're still thinking too much in the terms of our universe. As humans a lot of our simulations are modeled after parts of our world, but that doesn't mean we were made from the image of anything.

The grand-daddy of all conspiricy theories!

This thread should have a mental health warning on it for those who are paranoid and delusional lol. Sure I have thought the same while cycling along in the peace and quiet, or sat alone on an empty wind-swept beach or striding across the Himalayas. Thoughts trickling into my brain. I don't have a particular high IQ (like some of you it seems, or is it blind people with bullshit lol). But these thoughts have wormed themselves into my brain over the years. To stay sane I ignore them.

All I know is that I will live my life to the best (and sometimes worst) of my abilities, and when I die? Well well fucking see what happens next won't we. Until then I won't spend any more of my valuable time thinking about it.

It seems humans are always looking for an answer for why we exist and because man has invented the micro-chip that might become the new God trend, its just a more modern and updated version of the Sun God. Only now it's some dude on a computer somewhere....

  On 8/18/2010 at 7:41 PM, kaini said:

a [2-d] mandelbrot set containing an infinite amount of detail can be generated from a single equation iterated across the complex plane - z[n+1]=z[n]^2+c

I'd differentiate a visual representation of the process of generating a visual from a Mandelbrot set from information though, to say nothing of accounting for the individual position and interaction of every facet of detail contained in this reality. Information simply cannot be invented out of thin air...

but if a nonlinear fractal object is infinitely complex, then it can contain every conceivable shape at some level of magnification. if you take the turing hypothesis that any program can be reduced to a long number, then that shape contains every program, because a shape can be reduced to a long number in exactly the same manner. some recent hypotheses think that the quantum foam is fractal in structure.

  On 8/18/2010 at 8:16 PM, kaini said:

but if a nonlinear fractal object is infinitely complex, then it can contain every conceivable shape at some level of magnification. if you take the turing hypothesis that any program can be reduced to a long number, then that shape contains every program, because a shape can be reduced to a long number in exactly the same manner. some recent hypotheses think that the quantum foam is fractal in structure.

 

 

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i'm just fucking with you

 

  On 8/18/2010 at 7:41 PM, kaini said:

a [2-d] mandelbrot set containing an infinite amount of detail can be generated from a single equation iterated across the complex plane - z[n+1]=z[n]^2+c

okay i really have no idea what this all means but i do know that graham's number, if written out in digits smaller than a planck volume, would be fill the known universe and then some.

I just wrote an essay on fractals, contained herein.

The meaning:

  On 8/18/2010 at 8:26 PM, disparaissant said:

  On 8/18/2010 at 7:41 PM, kaini said:

a [2-d] mandelbrot set containing an infinite amount of detail can be generated from a single equation iterated across the complex plane - z[n+1]=z[n]^2+c

 

okay i really have no idea what this all means but i do know that graham's number, if written out in digits smaller than a planck volume, would be fill the known universe and then some.

So what's up with that? Does Graham just not want people calling him or something?

  On 8/18/2010 at 9:19 PM, Obel said:

  On 8/18/2010 at 8:26 PM, disparaissant said:

  On 8/18/2010 at 7:41 PM, kaini said:

a [2-d] mandelbrot set containing an infinite amount of detail can be generated from a single equation iterated across the complex plane - z[n+1]=z[n]^2+c

 

okay i really have no idea what this all means but i do know that graham's number, if written out in digits smaller than a planck volume, would be fill the known universe and then some.

 

So what's up with that? Does Graham just not want people calling him or something?

 

 

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"hey baby, my number is so big it can't be physically stored in the known universe... can i have YOUUUUuuuuurs?"

So, here's a question for you.

If you one day discovered you were existing in a simulation of the BoC subforum... What would you do?

ahhh cosmos, i love it.

more on graham's number:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graham's_number

it's an interesting read, even if i understand very little of it.

  On 8/18/2010 at 9:29 PM, kaini said:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0lFQOmb6mVs

Awesome!

  On 8/18/2010 at 9:29 PM, kaini said:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0lFQOmb6mVs

lold when he said googol and started writing it.

great youtube comment, lol

  Quote

"What do you do for a living?"

 

"I work with Carl Sagan."

 

"That must be cool."

 

"He gave me a roll of paper and told me to write a googolplex on it."

 

"Seriously?"

 

"Yup. Worst. Boss. Ever."

lol

  On 8/18/2010 at 4:18 AM, MAXIMUS MISCHIEF said:

everything is everything.

tautology is tautology.

  On 8/18/2010 at 9:27 PM, Obel said:

So, here's a question for you.

 

If you one day discovered you were existing in a simulation of the BoC subforum... What would you do?

manufacture a BOCset and get rich.