aphex, music theory

  On 9/6/2010 at 1:38 AM, marf said:

it seems like academics only praise other academics.

and musicians say they avant-garde a clue...

lol

  On 9/5/2010 at 10:18 PM, headspin said:

  On 9/4/2010 at 7:24 AM, Sprigg said:

  On 9/4/2010 at 5:31 AM, headspin said:

Richard D James is the Mozart of our time.

 

Statements like that just come across as pretentious and idiotic to me.

 

How so?

I'm pretty sure that in a couple of hundred years time he well be revered in much the same way Mozart is now.

So what's so pretentious and idiotic about that? and why would you post such a thing anyway, it just seems unnecessary and mean so shame on you =(

I just don't see it that way, and you're right, I probably shouldn't have said it (or at least could have found a better way to say it). I tried to qualify it with 'to me' at the end, but the statement came across a bit more harsh than I intended. It isn't directed at you, mate, but at the concept of the statement. Didn't mean to shit on ya, man. :)

It ultimately has yet to be seen if his music will influence the wider spectrum in time as Mozart's has, but I doubt it will; he's in a niche genre amongst a very diverse worldwide musical culture, with thousands upon thousands of artists all drawing from thousands of other artists' work and forging their own paths.

^ lol, well sorted out, mate! i agree...

  On 9/4/2010 at 5:03 PM, Scrambled Ears said:

he's said thats his parents owned a piano. he's very adept at melody, harmony (particularly minor) and counterpoint. many of the analord tunes are in musical modes such as phrygian. not to say he isn't self taught, but its not as simple as plugging in a synth and noodling around nor does the same melody repeat for the entire song like autechre, there is a knowledge of chordal progression. you wanna hear someone who has no formal training whatsoever (and wants nothing to do with it) listen to kawabata makoto's guitar solos (starts @ 5:15).

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4uSbiXSzpH0

 

aphex's stuff is too well arranged, at the very least there is a great deal of attention to musical structure and form.

this post made me love you

EDIT: meh....double post

  On 9/4/2010 at 5:31 AM, headspin said:

Richard D James is the Mozart of our time.

Hopefully not as mozart was the most commercial sell out of his time

  On 9/6/2010 at 9:51 AM, o00o said:

Hopefully not as mozart was the most commercial sell out of his time

*taken into account*

*changes member title to "-5309" in celebration his 867th post*

  On 9/6/2010 at 7:45 AM, Sprigg said:

  On 9/5/2010 at 10:18 PM, headspin said:

  On 9/4/2010 at 7:24 AM, Sprigg said:

  On 9/4/2010 at 5:31 AM, headspin said:

Richard D James is the Mozart of our time.

 

Statements like that just come across as pretentious and idiotic to me.

 

How so?

I'm pretty sure that in a couple of hundred years time he well be revered in much the same way Mozart is now.

So what's so pretentious and idiotic about that? and why would you post such a thing anyway, it just seems unnecessary and mean so shame on you =(

 

I just don't see it that way, and you're right, I probably shouldn't have said it (or at least could have found a better way to say it). I tried to qualify it with 'to me' at the end, but the statement came across a bit more harsh than I intended. It isn't directed at you, mate, but at the concept of the statement. Didn't mean to shit on ya, man. :)

 

It ultimately has yet to be seen if his music will influence the wider spectrum in time as Mozart's has, but I doubt it will; he's in a niche genre amongst a very diverse worldwide musical culture, with thousands upon thousands of artists all drawing from thousands of other artists' work and forging their own paths.

true dat but aphex's been a massive influence already. most people that are into contemporary music at least know who he is so it's not so niche, and many cite him as either influence or as admirers. and not to mention you can actually hear it (the influence) on today's music.

Justin Bieber is just a product of mp3's ..teenage girls are the only people stupid enough to buy albums anymore

  On 9/9/2010 at 12:30 AM, GORDO said:

  On 9/6/2010 at 7:45 AM, Sprigg said:

  On 9/5/2010 at 10:18 PM, headspin said:

  On 9/4/2010 at 7:24 AM, Sprigg said:

  On 9/4/2010 at 5:31 AM, headspin said:

Richard D James is the Mozart of our time.

 

Statements like that just come across as pretentious and idiotic to me.

 

How so?

I'm pretty sure that in a couple of hundred years time he well be revered in much the same way Mozart is now.

So what's so pretentious and idiotic about that? and why would you post such a thing anyway, it just seems unnecessary and mean so shame on you =(

 

I just don't see it that way, and you're right, I probably shouldn't have said it (or at least could have found a better way to say it). I tried to qualify it with 'to me' at the end, but the statement came across a bit more harsh than I intended. It isn't directed at you, mate, but at the concept of the statement. Didn't mean to shit on ya, man. :)

 

It ultimately has yet to be seen if his music will influence the wider spectrum in time as Mozart's has, but I doubt it will; he's in a niche genre amongst a very diverse worldwide musical culture, with thousands upon thousands of artists all drawing from thousands of other artists' work and forging their own paths.

 

 

true dat but aphex's been a massive influence already. most people that are into contemporary music at least know who he is so it's not so niche, and many cite him as either influence or as admirers. and not to mention you can actually hear it (the influence) on today's music.

Out of all my friends who are actually into music, three of them know who he is, and they're the people who are really into electronic music... and Radiohead are the only well-known act that I know of who have cited him as an influence.

When you say 'most people,' do you mean artists, casual listeners, hardcore music lovers?

And how exactly can one hear RDJ's influence in today's music? I honestly have never noticed anything that made me think 'hey, I think this beat was somehow inspired by AFX!' There's the obvious electronic scene, yeah, but what about pop, rock, hip-hop, etc? I'm not contesting you here, I'm genuinely curious.

by "today", he might just mean newer underground electronic

That's what I was thinking, makes more sense.

no, even pop. you can hear a lot of IDMish themes in newer pop. from britney to kylie to gaga. maybe not a direct influence as in hey this is afx but you can trace it back.

  On 9/9/2010 at 11:46 PM, Sprigg said:

  On 9/9/2010 at 12:30 AM, GORDO said:

  On 9/6/2010 at 7:45 AM, Sprigg said:

  On 9/5/2010 at 10:18 PM, headspin said:

  On 9/4/2010 at 7:24 AM, Sprigg said:

  On 9/4/2010 at 5:31 AM, headspin said:

Richard D James is the Mozart of our time.

 

Statements like that just come across as pretentious and idiotic to me.

 

How so?

I'm pretty sure that in a couple of hundred years time he well be revered in much the same way Mozart is now.

So what's so pretentious and idiotic about that? and why would you post such a thing anyway, it just seems unnecessary and mean so shame on you =(

 

I just don't see it that way, and you're right, I probably shouldn't have said it (or at least could have found a better way to say it). I tried to qualify it with 'to me' at the end, but the statement came across a bit more harsh than I intended. It isn't directed at you, mate, but at the concept of the statement. Didn't mean to shit on ya, man. :)

 

It ultimately has yet to be seen if his music will influence the wider spectrum in time as Mozart's has, but I doubt it will; he's in a niche genre amongst a very diverse worldwide musical culture, with thousands upon thousands of artists all drawing from thousands of other artists' work and forging their own paths.

 

 

true dat but aphex's been a massive influence already. most people that are into contemporary music at least know who he is so it's not so niche, and many cite him as either influence or as admirers. and not to mention you can actually hear it (the influence) on today's music.

 

 

Out of all my friends who are actually into music, three of them know who he is, and they're the people who are really into electronic music... and Radiohead are the only well-known act that I know of who have cited him as an influence.

When you say 'most people,' do you mean artists, casual listeners, hardcore music lovers?

 

And how exactly can one hear RDJ's influence in today's music? I honestly have never noticed anything that made me think 'hey, I think this beat was somehow inspired by AFX!' There's the obvious electronic scene, yeah, but what about pop, rock, hip-hop, etc? I'm not contesting you here, I'm genuinely curious.

most people i mean harcore music lovers.

  On 9/15/2010 at 3:01 AM, GORDO said:

no, even pop. you can hear a lot of IDMish themes in newer pop. from britney to kylie to gaga. maybe not a direct influence as in hey this is afx but you can trace it back.

 

  On 9/9/2010 at 11:46 PM, Sprigg said:

  On 9/9/2010 at 12:30 AM, GORDO said:

  On 9/6/2010 at 7:45 AM, Sprigg said:

  On 9/5/2010 at 10:18 PM, headspin said:

  On 9/4/2010 at 7:24 AM, Sprigg said:

  On 9/4/2010 at 5:31 AM, headspin said:

Richard D James is the Mozart of our time.

 

Statements like that just come across as pretentious and idiotic to me.

 

How so?

I'm pretty sure that in a couple of hundred years time he well be revered in much the same way Mozart is now.

So what's so pretentious and idiotic about that? and why would you post such a thing anyway, it just seems unnecessary and mean so shame on you =(

 

I just don't see it that way, and you're right, I probably shouldn't have said it (or at least could have found a better way to say it). I tried to qualify it with 'to me' at the end, but the statement came across a bit more harsh than I intended. It isn't directed at you, mate, but at the concept of the statement. Didn't mean to shit on ya, man. :)

 

It ultimately has yet to be seen if his music will influence the wider spectrum in time as Mozart's has, but I doubt it will; he's in a niche genre amongst a very diverse worldwide musical culture, with thousands upon thousands of artists all drawing from thousands of other artists' work and forging their own paths.

 

 

true dat but aphex's been a massive influence already. most people that are into contemporary music at least know who he is so it's not so niche, and many cite him as either influence or as admirers. and not to mention you can actually hear it (the influence) on today's music.

 

 

Out of all my friends who are actually into music, three of them know who he is, and they're the people who are really into electronic music... and Radiohead are the only well-known act that I know of who have cited him as an influence.

When you say 'most people,' do you mean artists, casual listeners, hardcore music lovers?

 

And how exactly can one hear RDJ's influence in today's music? I honestly have never noticed anything that made me think 'hey, I think this beat was somehow inspired by AFX!' There's the obvious electronic scene, yeah, but what about pop, rock, hip-hop, etc? I'm not contesting you here, I'm genuinely curious.

 

most people i mean harcore music lovers.

Okay yeah, I can kinda see your point now, some of the sounds used in Gaga are pretty 'weird' for pop music, so I could see how one would find some subtle IDM influences going on there.

so some asshole producers at stutter effects to some washy pop music and they were influenced by aphex. Fuck that. Fuck glitch and all that idm imitation cheese

  On 9/4/2010 at 5:03 PM, Scrambled Ears said:

  On 9/4/2010 at 4:27 PM, Fatcaesar said:

You sit down, you learn a synthesizer and a program and you make the music? that's how basic it is, Then rdj is really skilled.. but has nothing to do with music theory

We all know he started at home with almost no training what so ever, he just evolved by himself, and this is by far better then any theory.

 

he's said thats his parents owned a piano. he's very adept at melody, harmony (particularly minor) and counterpoint. many of the analord tunes are in musical modes such as phrygian.

Can you give some examples of when he uses phrygian?