What's Your Horoscope Sign ?

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my moon is in Jupiter....... energetically speaking

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SCORPIO (Oct. 22 - Nov. 21)

The worst of the lot. You're shrewd in business and cannot be trusted. You shall achieve the pinnacle of success because of your total lack of ethics. You're a perfect son-of-a-bitch. Most Scorpions are murdered.

F'ing Lol

  On 1/16/2011 at 3:24 PM, sirch said:

 

thank you, Richard Dawkins! lol

okay lets start with horoscopes.. here's the horoscopes from different websites.

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With the moon in Taurus on Friday night, you should feel fully in your element. Take the lead on evening plans, upgrading a lackluster itinerary to a glamorous fete. You may have to travel a little further from home to fill your adventure tanks, but collect the gas money and hop in the Zipcar. The ride will be as entertaining as the party itself. On Saturday, your driven nature returns, as Mars begins a tour of your ambitious tenth house. Map out career goals and add a few new professional pieces to your wardrobe. The power dynamics may feel off in a personal relationship on Sunday. You’re not imagining the competitive vibes, but you don’t want these worsen. Broach the subject gently, but directly. You may have inadvertently stomped on someone’s toes. Issue a sincere “mea culpa,” so the spirit of cooperation can return.

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A new animal may come into your life today in the form of visitor. This may mean you have found an injured bird or a lost wild thing and find yourself on the phone to the veterinarian or zoo. It could also mean you are just watching over an animal that belongs to a friend. You may find this a good teaching opportunity for the young people around you. This can be a fun adventure and you may decide to take this little visitor out for a walk or teach it a trick. Try to be explicit in your communications and general correspondence as you may be writing a friend about your adventures with this little visitor today. Listen carefully to what others are saying5. Laughter is a good thing! This evening is quiet and you enjoy a book or movie.

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The Moon in Gemini opposes Venus, putting your emotions at odds with your relationships. You may crave freedom and adventure now, but it's important to make sure you communicate and keep your friends and loved ones up to date on your needs. You may create unnecessary problems and challenges if you don't

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Your career, finances, and social life are both full of excitement this month. You have some financial or romantic trust issues that keep surfacing but you are being smart about such things and not allowing anyone to play you for a fool. You are also beginning to feel more adventurous and as if it is time to embark on some kind of literal or figurative journey. You are correct, it is time for you to spread your wings and broaden your horizons. Find something fascinating to lose yourself in.

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Don't freak out if you can't make up your mind over the simplest choices -- you've got a lot going on today! Everyone else does too, of course, so don't expect tons of assistance in choosing quite yet.

you'll notice two things about them

1) horoscopes are always vague, vague enough to apply to anyone

2) horoscopes are never the same..

3) horoscopes offer hopeful messages. "wow, i can't wait!"

what does this mean? it means everyone makes them up using their own idea of what "astrology" really is.

it means noone is actually on the same page about horoscopes, let alone astrology itself.

i dare you to read through a few notable astrology books at your library and see what they have to say..

its never the same explanation(s) for anything at all.

then go see as many psychics as you like, and you'll find every one of them tells you a different story.

"oh, you must be in love!"

"you've suffered lately haven't you?"

"you have someone in your family named John"

then investate tarot readers, same thing..

look i'm not saying that the alignment of celestial bodies has no affect on us and our human lives,

i'm just saying everyone that tells you the how and why is lying to you.

because the truth is, and i agree with you, we just don't know shit.

its been tested again, and again, and again.. and science keeps coming back to

the same conclusion, that astrology has more to do with chance itself than predicting your future.

which brings me to science.. which i guess you think is laughable by your "lol richard dawkins" comment.

things you use daily that are end-products of scientific endeavor:

1) your computer

2) the internet

3) your car

4) the food you eat

5) your medicine

6) your clothes

7) your telephone

8) your water

9) your toilet

10) the light in your house

11) well just about everything these days

otherwise we'd all still be out in the cold making fires, farming, and wearing animal leathers..

i'm not trying to take the joy out of life..

i guess its kind of like jerry springer and TV wrestling right?

it's just more fun to think its real.

so how does the new horoscope thing go?

A Weighing scale and a snake.

  On 1/17/2011 at 2:09 AM, yek said:

so how does the new horoscope thing go?

it doesn't.

nothing has changed at all.

your sign is still the same.

  On 1/17/2011 at 12:40 AM, fiznuthian said:

  On 1/16/2011 at 3:24 PM, sirch said:

 

thank you, Richard Dawkins! lol

 

okay lets start with horoscopes.. here's the horoscopes from different websites.

 

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With the moon in Taurus on Friday night, you should feel fully in your element. Take the lead on evening plans, upgrading a lackluster itinerary to a glamorous fete. You may have to travel a little further from home to fill your adventure tanks, but collect the gas money and hop in the Zipcar. The ride will be as entertaining as the party itself. On Saturday, your driven nature returns, as Mars begins a tour of your ambitious tenth house. Map out career goals and add a few new professional pieces to your wardrobe. The power dynamics may feel off in a personal relationship on Sunday. You’re not imagining the competitive vibes, but you don’t want these worsen. Broach the subject gently, but directly. You may have inadvertently stomped on someone’s toes. Issue a sincere “mea culpa,” so the spirit of cooperation can return.

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A new animal may come into your life today in the form of visitor. This may mean you have found an injured bird or a lost wild thing and find yourself on the phone to the veterinarian or zoo. It could also mean you are just watching over an animal that belongs to a friend. You may find this a good teaching opportunity for the young people around you. This can be a fun adventure and you may decide to take this little visitor out for a walk or teach it a trick. Try to be explicit in your communications and general correspondence as you may be writing a friend about your adventures with this little visitor today. Listen carefully to what others are saying5. Laughter is a good thing! This evening is quiet and you enjoy a book or movie.

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The Moon in Gemini opposes Venus, putting your emotions at odds with your relationships. You may crave freedom and adventure now, but it's important to make sure you communicate and keep your friends and loved ones up to date on your needs. You may create unnecessary problems and challenges if you don't

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Your career, finances, and social life are both full of excitement this month. You have some financial or romantic trust issues that keep surfacing but you are being smart about such things and not allowing anyone to play you for a fool. You are also beginning to feel more adventurous and as if it is time to embark on some kind of literal or figurative journey. You are correct, it is time for you to spread your wings and broaden your horizons. Find something fascinating to lose yourself in.

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Don't freak out if you can't make up your mind over the simplest choices -- you've got a lot going on today! Everyone else does too, of course, so don't expect tons of assistance in choosing quite yet.

 

you'll notice two things about them

1) horoscopes are always vague, vague enough to apply to anyone

2) horoscopes are never the same..

3) horoscopes offer hopeful messages. "wow, i can't wait!"

 

what does this mean? it means everyone makes them up using their own idea of what "astrology" really is.

it means noone is actually on the same page about horoscopes, let alone astrology itself.

i dare you to read through a few notable astrology books at your library and see what they have to say..

its never the same explanation(s) for anything at all.

then go see as many psychics as you like, and you'll find every one of them tells you a different story.

"oh, you must be in love!"

"you've suffered lately haven't you?"

"you have someone in your family named John"

then investate tarot readers, same thing..

 

 

look i'm not saying that the alignment of celestial bodies has no affect on us and our human lives,

i'm just saying everyone that tells you the how and why is lying to you.

because the truth is, and i agree with you, we just don't know shit.

its been tested again, and again, and again.. and science keeps coming back to

the same conclusion, that astrology has more to do with chance itself than predicting your future.

 

which brings me to science.. which i guess you think is laughable by your "lol richard dawkins" comment.

things you use daily that are end-products of scientific endeavor:

 

1) your computer

2) the internet

3) your car

4) the food you eat

5) your medicine

6) your clothes

7) your telephone

8) your water

9) your toilet

10) the light in your house

11) well just about everything these days

 

otherwise we'd all still be out in the cold making fires, farming, and wearing animal leathers..

i'm not trying to take the joy out of life..

i guess its kind of like jerry springer and TV wrestling right?

it's just more fun to think its real.

i haven't read all that, not being rude but just don't have the time, but i must say i'm not that into daily horoscopes or flimsy newspaper astrologers! i'm, or rather i was before at one stage of my life, interested in the science of it, actually, if you can call it that, which i think you can, and that's funny... science and astrology hand in hand!? who'd have thought it!! lol ;)

people don't seem to realise there's actually science behind it. of course some astrologers do just make up a load of vague nonsense for the daily's,

but some of them take it a lot more seriously and actually look at the skies and plot the positions of planets, etc. it's their chosen lifelong career, some of them. and there's a lot of degrees and time and telescopes and maths involved in actual fact... just ask Johnathan Cainer. lol

anyway i'm done with this thread now.. i've got work to do.

cheers :)

  On 1/16/2011 at 3:13 AM, Blanket Fort Collapse said:

Most horoscopes might be bullshit but there is a lot of significant reasoning behind astrology. I'm not saying I read too much into it or anything but I certainly wouldn't call astrology nonsense.

It's nonsense. Like the easter bunny and god.

  On 1/16/2011 at 3:23 AM, chassis said:

Saying that it has something to do with the stars is nonsense. Any reasoning behind similar attributes is more than likely a combination of using really ambiguous language and the amount of day light + weather. Different people react differently when theres less sunshine etc.

 

Also all that stuff about star signs changing has been happening for years, its not like it suddenly happened the other day. If you thought that the earth was staying in the exact same spot in the universe relative to everything else, you either hadn't though about it very much or are a moron. But obviously the position of Jupiter is going to have some effect on Earth and its inhabitants. It has more than twice the gravity of the earth and if the moon effects the tides then clearly Jupiter will have an effect. But if you think its the stars thousands of light years away thats making you pissy, Id say its more likely you didnt get a good nights sleep.

The moon moves farther away from the Earth every day, and the moon actually slows the rotation of the Earth by a minute period every time it passes over it [two big gravitational bodies grinding against one another]. To say it's been in the same cycle since the beginning of man is a huge incongruency. Astrology is not valid in that aspect.

  On 1/16/2011 at 9:18 PM, Super lurker ultra V12 said:

pluto's not a planet anymore

Yeah, and it wasn't a planet until 1930. Astrology is supposed to be ancient, right?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pluto#Discovery

  On 1/16/2011 at 9:32 PM, sirch said:

  On 1/16/2011 at 9:24 PM, Pilgarlic said:

  On 1/16/2011 at 9:18 PM, Super lurker ultra V12 said:

pluto's not a planet anymore

 

nope sure isn't. pluto is an excellent dog

 

it's still a "celestial body" though.

See above.

  On 1/17/2011 at 11:07 AM, sirch said:

  On 1/17/2011 at 12:40 AM, fiznuthian said:

  On 1/16/2011 at 3:24 PM, sirch said:

 

thank you, Richard Dawkins! lol

 

okay lets start with horoscopes.. here's the horoscopes from different websites.

 

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With the moon in Taurus on Friday night, you should feel fully in your element. Take the lead on evening plans, upgrading a lackluster itinerary to a glamorous fete. You may have to travel a little further from home to fill your adventure tanks, but collect the gas money and hop in the Zipcar. The ride will be as entertaining as the party itself. On Saturday, your driven nature returns, as Mars begins a tour of your ambitious tenth house. Map out career goals and add a few new professional pieces to your wardrobe. The power dynamics may feel off in a personal relationship on Sunday. You’re not imagining the competitive vibes, but you don’t want these worsen. Broach the subject gently, but directly. You may have inadvertently stomped on someone’s toes. Issue a sincere “mea culpa,” so the spirit of cooperation can return.

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A new animal may come into your life today in the form of visitor. This may mean you have found an injured bird or a lost wild thing and find yourself on the phone to the veterinarian or zoo. It could also mean you are just watching over an animal that belongs to a friend. You may find this a good teaching opportunity for the young people around you. This can be a fun adventure and you may decide to take this little visitor out for a walk or teach it a trick. Try to be explicit in your communications and general correspondence as you may be writing a friend about your adventures with this little visitor today. Listen carefully to what others are saying5. Laughter is a good thing! This evening is quiet and you enjoy a book or movie.

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The Moon in Gemini opposes Venus, putting your emotions at odds with your relationships. You may crave freedom and adventure now, but it's important to make sure you communicate and keep your friends and loved ones up to date on your needs. You may create unnecessary problems and challenges if you don't

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Your career, finances, and social life are both full of excitement this month. You have some financial or romantic trust issues that keep surfacing but you are being smart about such things and not allowing anyone to play you for a fool. You are also beginning to feel more adventurous and as if it is time to embark on some kind of literal or figurative journey. You are correct, it is time for you to spread your wings and broaden your horizons. Find something fascinating to lose yourself in.

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Don't freak out if you can't make up your mind over the simplest choices -- you've got a lot going on today! Everyone else does too, of course, so don't expect tons of assistance in choosing quite yet.

 

you'll notice two things about them

1) horoscopes are always vague, vague enough to apply to anyone

2) horoscopes are never the same..

3) horoscopes offer hopeful messages. "wow, i can't wait!"

 

what does this mean? it means everyone makes them up using their own idea of what "astrology" really is.

it means noone is actually on the same page about horoscopes, let alone astrology itself.

i dare you to read through a few notable astrology books at your library and see what they have to say..

its never the same explanation(s) for anything at all.

then go see as many psychics as you like, and you'll find every one of them tells you a different story.

"oh, you must be in love!"

"you've suffered lately haven't you?"

"you have someone in your family named John"

then investate tarot readers, same thing..

 

 

look i'm not saying that the alignment of celestial bodies has no affect on us and our human lives,

i'm just saying everyone that tells you the how and why is lying to you.

because the truth is, and i agree with you, we just don't know shit.

its been tested again, and again, and again.. and science keeps coming back to

the same conclusion, that astrology has more to do with chance itself than predicting your future.

 

which brings me to science.. which i guess you think is laughable by your "lol richard dawkins" comment.

things you use daily that are end-products of scientific endeavor:

 

1) your computer

2) the internet

3) your car

4) the food you eat

5) your medicine

6) your clothes

7) your telephone

8) your water

9) your toilet

10) the light in your house

11) well just about everything these days

 

otherwise we'd all still be out in the cold making fires, farming, and wearing animal leathers..

i'm not trying to take the joy out of life..

i guess its kind of like jerry springer and TV wrestling right?

it's just more fun to think its real.

 

i haven't read all that, not being rude but just don't have the time, but i must say i'm not that into daily horoscopes or flimsy newspaper astrologers! i'm, or rather i was before at one stage of my life, interested in the science of it, actually, if you can call it that, which i think you can, and that's funny... science and astrology hand in hand!? who'd have thought it!! lol ;)

people don't seem to realise there's actually science behind it. of course some astrologers do just make up a load of vague nonsense for the daily's,

but some of them take it a lot more seriously and actually look at the skies and plot the positions of planets, etc. it's their chosen lifelong career, some of them. and there's a lot of degrees and time and telescopes and maths involved in actual fact... just ask Johnathan Cainer. lol

anyway i'm done with this thread now.. i've got work to do.

cheers :)

I don't trust anything that's supposed to be a belief on the position of anything in the universe, since that shit changes constantly. We'll never see it in our lifetimes, but on a long enough time line, change is inevitable.

Even a dead body [an inanimate object] is animated on a long enough time line.

interesting points, Braintree and fitznuthian.

so, Braintree,

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"What's Your Horoscope Sign?"

because that is what the thread is about, after all, isn't it.. not whether astrology is 'real' or not real, or modern science versus ancient beliefs versus fairground fortune tellers versus God versus the Easter Bunny, blah blah blah, etc. etc. etc. !!

i think this thread was just meant as a bit of fun really is all! damn you fucking scientists! lol

  On 1/17/2011 at 12:10 PM, Braintree said:

 

  On 1/16/2011 at 9:18 PM, Super lurker ultra V12 said:

pluto's not a planet anymore

 

Yeah, and it wasn't a planet until 1930. Astrology is supposed to be ancient, right?

 

right.

  On 1/17/2011 at 11:07 AM, sirch said:

 

i haven't read all that, not being rude but just don't have the time, but i must say i'm not that into daily horoscopes or flimsy newspaper astrologers! i'm, or rather i was before at one stage of my life, interested in the science of it, actually, if you can call it that, which i think you can, and that's funny... science and astrology hand in hand!? who'd have thought it!! lol ;)

people don't seem to realise there's actually science behind it. of course some astrologers do just make up a load of vague nonsense for the daily's,

but some of them take it a lot more seriously and actually look at the skies and plot the positions of planets, etc. it's their chosen lifelong career, some of them. and there's a lot of degrees and time and telescopes and maths involved in actual fact... just ask Johnathan Cainer. lol

anyway i'm done with this thread now.. i've got work to do.

cheers :)

Sirch, thats Astronomy. Which is a valid science.

  On 1/17/2011 at 3:18 PM, chassis said:

 

Sirch, thats Astronomy. Which is a valid science.

lol, oh fgs.. no, it's not. it's similar, but Astrology is not Astronomy!

here, cos i'm not very good at explaining myself or anything in minute acurate details and i don't have the time for that these days either:

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What is Astrology anyway? It is the science of plotting the positions of the sun, the moon and the planets (plus a few other heavenly bodies) at the moment you were born and then, based on thousands of years of observation, supplying you with information about the influences your particular planetary configuration could have on your life.

 

The most common misconception about this tool is that it divides people into 12 categories, "Sun-signs" (and may subdivide them further by Moon-sign). This misconception comes from the popular practice of publishing "horoscopes" in newspapers and magazines for different Sun-signs, and the sale of popular books containing predictions for people of a particular Sun-sign. Unfortunately, all such horoscopes provide nothing more than entertainment. Valid predictions cannot be made on the basis of the Sun-sign alone.

 

In actual practice, this science involves determining the exact position in the zodiac (not just by sign, but by degree and minute, that is, the specific part of the sky) of the Sun, the Moon, and 8 planets (Mercury, Venus, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus, Neptune, and Pluto) at the time of a person's birth. The zodiacal degree of other points and bodies, such as the Moon's North and South Nodes, asteroids, Uranian points, and Arabic parts, are included by some astrologers.

 

One also calculates the positions of 12 "houses" which are specific to the exact place and time of birth. The location of planets in these houses and the sign on the cusp of each house are important sources of information in chart interpretation. One also looks at the angular distances in the zodiac between each pair of planets; certain specific angular distances, called "aspects," are considered meaningful.

 

All of this information is necessary to determine the astrological influences present at a person's birth and to formulate predictions for the future. The sign in which the Sun and Moon fall is only one very small part of the picture. This does not mean that people who write horoscope columns necessarily just make things up out of thin air. They usually use certain astrological concepts, but the application of these concepts to sign positions of the Sun rarely produces valuable information. To see why, let us look at what typical "Sun-sign astrologers" might do.

 

First, they assume that your Sun is roughly in the middle of the sign. They then look to see if any planets are making aspects to the Sun on the day/week/month in question, and they interpret these aspects. If your Sun is at the beginning or end of a sign, these aspects will be irrelevant in your case. In addition, there may be aspects to other planets in your chart that will affect you strongly, and some of them may even have an effect opposite to the effect of the aspects to your Sun. Sun-sign astrologers might also set up "houses" by assuming that the sign your Sun is in is the first house, the next sign is the second house, and so on. They then look to see if any planets are currently in each "house".

 

A serious astrologer would calculate the positions of houses using data about the exact time and place of birth, and these houses rarely coincide with the Sun-sign astrologer's zodiac-sign "houses." So the Sun-sign technique will only work at all for people who happen to have the Sun and several other planets in the middle of one sign, and whose first house also happens to begin at 0 degrees of the same sign. Such people are extremely rare, so for most people, newspaper "horoscopes" will be useless. You may be at the stage of asking, "What is a horoscope?" If so, you're going to find some answers here. To begin with, the horoscope is a map of the heavens at the moment of your birth. This "map" is a two dimensional chart showing the position of the Sun, the Moon, and planets when you were born. The planets are "frozen" in their position at the moment of birth.

once upon a time i found this quite interesting. like a lot of other things too. but i'm not an astrologer and i'm not trying to push astrology, either. i'm not a hippy, i like my modern comforts. but i'm not a scientist or a big techno head, either. i like what i like and i know what i know. :) i'm going on 32 now.. and i'm really past the age of caring what other people think, and past being told what i should or shouldn't do or how i should think.

thanks to everyone for all the science lessons anyway though!! :) (as if i didn't know all that shit already) duh.

"It's nonsense. Like the easter bunny and god."

Lol~ I knew someone here would deny the existence of the Easter Bunny.

  On 1/17/2011 at 4:06 PM, sirch said:

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...information about the influences your particular planetary configuration could have on your life.

 

...All of this information is necessary to determine the astrological influences present at a person's birth and to formulate predictions for the future.

  On 1/17/2011 at 1:06 PM, sirch said:

interesting points, Braintree and fitznuthian.

 

so, Braintree,

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"What's Your Horoscope Sign?"

. :)

because that is what the thread is about, after all, isn't it.. not whether astrology is 'real' or not real, or modern science versus ancient beliefs versus fairground fortune tellers versus God versus the Easter Bunny, blah blah blah, etc. etc. etc. !!

 

i think this thread was just meant as a bit of fun really is all! damn you fucking scientists! lol

I'm a Libra.

No idea what my lunar sign is, though.

lol sirch, i know you're trying man.

i'm sorry we're ruining your fun here, and you know what i'm about to say so i'm going to spare

a long bulky reply again..

i just don't feel that is science at all. there's just

no evidence that the position of any planet, sun, or other space entity

has any affect on the events that occur in our lives beyond tide-level,

seasons and seasonal food, whether it rains or snows on us, etc..

but what science did reveal about the matter is that people have expectations,

and if their expectations are great and expectations are met,

people have a tendency to attribute the occurence to circumstances that aren't necessarily correct.

it's called conformational bias, and even scientists struggle with it.

glad to hear you haven't fallen for the psychic and daily horoscope craze though..

there's a lot of money being made, an industry even, from that garbage.

the worst part is it's so obvious that almost all of the people involved

are blatantly lying to people for money, and the gullible keep showing up in masses

to find their futures..

the dutch even have an official HBO bachelor in astrology

eat it Carl Sagan fans!

the thing is, assuming that your and only your belief is the right one is always a silly thing to do, whether you may be on a "scientific" or an "esoteric" standpoint. I used to do the same thing but I can't take it seriously anymore. When somebody comes along and tells me "You're totally wrong because ACTUALLY, it's all exactly like THIS" I stop listening to them, merely because I think no one can know anything for sure.

It's your right to believe or not to believe in the authenticity of astrology, but what tends to piss me off a little about the skeptics is the way most of them "spread the word" - Ha-ha, you're in idiot, you believe in things that aren't scientifically proven! - You know what I mean. The reason why atheists can be worse than Catholics sometimes.

I'd say it's best to find a healthily skeptical position, towards anything really. By that I mean keep an open mind towards new things but don't swallow everything. One shouldn't believe everything that's written in a book, or everything someone tells you just because he's having some fancy looking crystals you haven't seen before. We all know that there are LOADS of bullshitters around in this field, same with fortune tellers, psychics etc. I'd go so far and say about 95% of literature/popular belief regarding astrology is bullshit².

I used to be a die-hard skeptic of astrology and always thought it was a pile of shit until about two and a half years ago. Then I've read some descriptions that, unlike all the other stuff I had read before, could pinpoint a whole bunch of quite detailed characteristics of my individual friends (or myself) pretty much spot-on. A thing I learned is that when a horoscope only ever speaks of positive stuff, it's probably not genuine. With every sign, there come strengths as well as weaknesses. So when one only talks about "he tends to be good at something when he puts some effort in" or "she can be very emotional", of course that applies to everyone, which is why I'm saying it helps not to be an idiot. But there are some interesting aspects that shouldn't just be overlooked as nonsense. Maybe these things aren't even related to the stars at all.

I'm aware how expectation can flaw objectivity and how I could potentially put someone in a certain category just because I want them to fit into it, but that argument becomes invalid when you actually figure out someone's sign based on his character, and not the other way round.

But anyway, I don't mean to convert anyone, I'm just saying not everything has been scientifically explained (yet) and not everything has to be in order to be real. Correct me if I'm wrong but, as far as I'm aware, there hasn't been any study/prove about/for the phenomenon of sensing someone looking at you from the back ... ? You know, you turn around and look them right in the eyes. I'm guessing everyone's familiar with it, yet I don't know of any proof or explaination for the existence of that. Mh...

  On 1/16/2011 at 2:08 AM, chassis said:

Bullshiticus

lol

@topic:

  On 8/22/2010 at 2:27 PM, Captain James Mission said:

Virgo. Dragon.

  On 1/18/2011 at 12:41 AM, Terpentintollwut said:

the thing is, assuming that your and only your belief is the right one is always a silly thing to do, whether you may be on a "scientific" or an "esoteric" standpoint. I used to do the same thing but I can't take it seriously anymore. When somebody comes along and tells me "You're totally wrong because ACTUALLY, it's all exactly like THIS" I stop listening to them, merely because I think no one can know anything for sure.

 

It's your right to believe or not to believe in the authenticity of astrology, but what tends to piss me off a little about the skeptics is the way most of them "spread the word" - Ha-ha, you're in idiot, you believe in things that aren't scientifically proven! - You know what I mean. The reason why atheists can be worse than Catholics sometimes.

 

I'd say it's best to find a healthily skeptical position, towards anything really. By that I mean keep an open mind towards new things but don't swallow everything. One shouldn't believe everything that's written in a book, or everything someone tells you just because he's having some fancy looking crystals you haven't seen before. We all know that there are LOADS of bullshitters around in this field, same with fortune tellers, psychics etc. I'd go so far and say about 95% of literature/popular belief regarding astrology is bullshit².

 

I used to be a die-hard skeptic of astrology and always thought it was a pile of shit until about two and a half years ago. Then I've read some descriptions that, unlike all the other stuff I had read before, could pinpoint a whole bunch of quite detailed characteristics of my individual friends (or myself) pretty much spot-on. A thing I learned is that when a horoscope only ever speaks of positive stuff, it's probably not genuine. With every sign, there come strengths as well as weaknesses. So when one only talks about "he tends to be good at something when he puts some effort in" or "she can be very emotional", of course that applies to everyone, which is why I'm saying it helps not to be an idiot. But there are some interesting aspects that shouldn't just be overlooked as nonsense. Maybe these things aren't even related to the stars at all.

 

I'm aware how expectation can flaw objectivity and how I could potentially put someone in a certain category just because I want them to fit into it, but that argument becomes invalid when you actually figure out someone's sign based on his character, and not the other way round.

 

But anyway, I don't mean to convert anyone, I'm just saying not everything has been scientifically explained (yet) and not everything has to be in order to be real. Correct me if I'm wrong but, as far as I'm aware, there hasn't been any study/prove about/for the phenomenon of sensing someone looking at you from the back ... ? You know, you turn around and look them right in the eyes. I'm guessing everyone's familiar with it, yet I don't know of any proof or explaination for the existence of that. Mh...

 

 

  On 1/16/2011 at 2:08 AM, chassis said:

Bullshiticus

 

lol

 

 

@topic:

 

  On 8/22/2010 at 2:27 PM, Captain James Mission said:

Virgo. Dragon.

you place your hand on a stove, it burns.. every time.

you step forward and you move.. every time.

the Sun circles the earth.. everyday.

what goes up will always come down.. every time.

get what i'm saying here?

it's not like science is out to get you, it's just that some things actually work, and they happen every time

the conditions are right. the beauty of scientific process is not that it enables people to walk around all day

and tell people they're wrong, its that as humans we've figured out that some things in our universe are obviously true

because there's not any point in time where when the conditions are right what we want to happen won't happen.

then there's phenomena that won't always occur, sometimes rarely occurring when conditions are met..

once again, by repetative scientific process, we can find out how likely something is to happen. or unlikely, in the case of astrology.

with astrology, miracles, or even glancing over your shoulder because you felt someone was watching, nothing really adds up.

there's truckloads of correlations, but nothing adds up.

how many times have you glanced over your shoulder and saw no one looking at you, when you had a feeling there might be?

you will forget these moments because they were not important and its just not interesting.

while you are correct, there is no studies to prove the existence sensing people, there are studies

confirming that people almost always remember whats important to them, and discard the rest.

but i digress.. i can be a real hard-ass about this stuff, but its pretty ironic because i'm trying to find a spiritual direction in life atm..

its just hard to be both skeptical and spiritual when there's so many loonies out there trying to tell you the way.

today you might die. make certain to talk to strangers.

  On 1/18/2011 at 12:41 AM, Terpentintollwut said:

... that argument becomes invalid when you actually figure out someone's sign based on his character, and not the other way round.

Well..no it doesn't. If that were true I assure you there would already be a mass of studies that show you can determine someones "star sign" or w/e from their personality traits and background.

  On 1/18/2011 at 12:41 AM, Terpentintollwut said:

Correct me if I'm wrong but, as far as I'm aware, there hasn't been any study/prove about/for the phenomenon of sensing someone looking at you from the back ... ? You know, you turn around and look them right in the eyes. I'm guessing everyone's familiar with it, yet I don't know of any proof or explaination for the existence of that. Mh...

Lol, what? I mean - I do know exactly what sensation you're referring to but I've had this exact feeling and like fiznuthian said I've turned around and no one was there. I've had this feeling home alone. I'm not going to take my time to google this "phenomenon" but just take into account the sounds that your subconcious detects but you don't...the odd shadow that a person casts or any faint reflection. Lot's of these indetectable-to-your-concious-mind type things happen when someone quietly approaches you, or for that matter when anything happens and you "sense it".

perhaps it's not that horoscopes are onto some key points so much as they're a set of rules that millions, if not billions of people agree on. and base daily decisions on... fuck the mystic BS, it executes a psychological force!

don't let people fuck you around. buy the knife you saw on wattem.