Salvatorin Posted September 3, 2010 Report Share Posted September 3, 2010 (edited) Loving Wonky Quote Zomby's ‘Kaliko’ is a remarkably complex, sophisticated piece of music. It can be read as an essay in the duple-vs-triple metrical tension of dub, and as such it thoroughly deserves to be considered ‘hyperdub’ after the record label it was put out on. The kaleidoscopic play of constantly rolling textures in expanded tonality reminds me of nineteenth- and twentieth-century études or studies, especially those composed by avant-gardist György Ligeti. It can also draw comparison with the work of Ives and Carter, central African polyphony, experimental gamelan and especially the early modernist polyrhythms and cascade-like figures of Stravinsky in works like The Rite of Spring. Quote ‘Wonkification’ is a psychedelic new modernism that can’t be dismissed as ‘pulp avant-garde’ (perhaps, as Dan Hancox suggests, British club music is in the midst of a ‘revolutionary ferment’, albeit partially). Like its six-hundred-year-old counterpart the ‘ars subtilior’, ‘wonky’ manifestly deserves to be called a ‘more subtle art’ - more subtle than some were expecting. Wonky as Transversal Rave Quote Even further, the very notion of “wonky” itself is a deeply slippery idea. Sometimes it indicates de-quantised drums (as in Flying Lotus, Lukid, and other post Dilla beat-artisans) sometimes pitch-bent synth and bass work (Joker, Starkey, Rustie), sometimes a maddening rush of 8 Bit arpeggios (Zomby, Ikonika, Rustie again). Wonky is not so much a genre unto itself. Instead it operates as a kind of trans-generic mutational agent, spreading seamlessly between bpm species, liquidating textures, distending rhythmical consistency like so much manipulable sonic sticky toffee: All that is solid melts into a new electronic psychedelia, as fluid and mellifluous as the globalised capitalism which spreads it. Quote We might think of Wonky as operating as a vector transversal to genre, a transversal analysis in-itself operating beyond merely a postmodern genre-game. Rather than a pick and mix approach to generic materials, wonky is strategically applied to pre-existent genres, not as an adhesive but as a liquefying agent... [cf perhaps Negarestani's rotting objects?]... a making strange... not in the sense of hauntology's unheimlich-home, but in the deliquescent informational fluidity and interoperability of late capital, the strangeness of a blooming irridescant corpse, (not a spectre) a sonic embodiement of its distributive ground. Wonkitecture Quote Most obviously, the buildings literally look wonky. They bend, they twist, they appear to collapse or leap, their masses shift and cantilever – put simply their forms appear “out of place, out of key and misshapen” to borrow from Alex SBA.Second, recent architecture has been awash in bright colour due to increasing whimsy on the architects’ behalf as well as advances in synthetic cladding. This calls to mind the common synesthetic tendency to associate the multi-textured and pitch-bent synths of wonky with bright day-glo colour. Quote A final parallel could be seen between the overall extravagance and visual sensation of these buildings and the dramatic arpeggios of a producer like Zomby. The rapid climb of notes in Kaliko (painstakingly transcribed by RF here) is akin to the dramatic oblique ascent of windows on Gehry’s Stata Centre, the twisting beams of Calatrava’s Turning Torso or the interior of Libeskind's Denver Art Museum. hell yeah Edited September 3, 2010 by Salvatorin Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Salvatorin's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/59361-wonky-is-an-extremely-intellectual-subject/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
autopilot Posted September 3, 2010 Report Share Posted September 3, 2010 Listening to Zomby is infinitely more fun than reading some pompous douchebag masturbate all over his word processor. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/59361-wonky-is-an-extremely-intellectual-subject/#findComment-1408003 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jimbob Posted September 3, 2010 Report Share Posted September 3, 2010 lol Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/59361-wonky-is-an-extremely-intellectual-subject/#findComment-1408118 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ego Posted September 3, 2010 Report Share Edit Hide Delete Posted September 3, 2010 lol Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/59361-wonky-is-an-extremely-intellectual-subject/#findComment-1408155 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salvatorin Posted September 3, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 3, 2010 No way. This is really cool. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Salvatorin's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/59361-wonky-is-an-extremely-intellectual-subject/#findComment-1408227 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gbiscuit Posted September 3, 2010 Report Share Posted September 3, 2010 Browsing through the... 'article' I first thought this was a satire of a hipsters approach to this sort of beast. And then I read the comments. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/59361-wonky-is-an-extremely-intellectual-subject/#findComment-1408245 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest disparaissant Posted September 3, 2010 Report Share Posted September 3, 2010 why did i even TRY to read that? cack > wonk Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/59361-wonky-is-an-extremely-intellectual-subject/#findComment-1408254 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hahathhat Posted September 3, 2010 Report Share Posted September 3, 2010 i always thought of "wonky" as a particular mood, one akin to using a multimillion dollar super computer to balance your checkbook. "spaceship" off of mouse on mars's "radical connector" is pretty wonky. @1:50 the wonk gets heavy here is some wonky of mine Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/59361-wonky-is-an-extremely-intellectual-subject/#findComment-1408258 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gbiscuit Posted September 3, 2010 Report Share Posted September 3, 2010 I always thought of it as pretty good music. Am I doing it wrong? Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/59361-wonky-is-an-extremely-intellectual-subject/#findComment-1408267 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hahathhat Posted September 3, 2010 Report Share Posted September 3, 2010 i had no idea there was enough to make a post that long (which i have not read). it's just a word i heard somewhere and started using. i vacuum up a lot of words and i could be confused, but i recall using wonky before 2008. synonyms i'd give it: quirky, goofy, whimsical, over the top like those chair dances at a jewish wedding Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/59361-wonky-is-an-extremely-intellectual-subject/#findComment-1408277 Share on other sites More sharing options...
awepittance Posted September 4, 2010 Report Share Posted September 4, 2010 On 9/3/2010 at 6:30 PM, Salvatorin said: Loving Wonky Quote Zomby's ‘Kaliko’ is a remarkably complex, sophisticated piece of music. It can be read as an essay in the duple-vs-triple metrical tension of dub, and as such it thoroughly deserves to be considered ‘hyperdub’ after the record label it was put out on. The kaleidoscopic play of constantly rolling textures in expanded tonality reminds me of nineteenth- and twentieth-century études or studies, especially those composed by avant-gardist György Ligeti. It can also draw comparison with the work of Ives and Carter, central African polyphony, experimental gamelan and especially the early modernist polyrhythms and cascade-like figures of Stravinsky in works like The Rite of Spring. Quote ‘Wonkification’ is a psychedelic new modernism that can’t be dismissed as ‘pulp avant-garde’ (perhaps, as Dan Hancox suggests, British club music is in the midst of a ‘revolutionary ferment’, albeit partially). Like its six-hundred-year-old counterpart the ‘ars subtilior’, ‘wonky’ manifestly deserves to be called a ‘more subtle art’ - more subtle than some were expecting. Wonky as Transversal Rave Quote Even further, the very notion of “wonky” itself is a deeply slippery idea. Sometimes it indicates de-quantised drums (as in Flying Lotus, Lukid, and other post Dilla beat-artisans) sometimes pitch-bent synth and bass work (Joker, Starkey, Rustie), sometimes a maddening rush of 8 Bit arpeggios (Zomby, Ikonika, Rustie again). Wonky is not so much a genre unto itself. Instead it operates as a kind of trans-generic mutational agent, spreading seamlessly between bpm species, liquidating textures, distending rhythmical consistency like so much manipulable sonic sticky toffee: All that is solid melts into a new electronic psychedelia, as fluid and mellifluous as the globalised capitalism which spreads it. Quote We might think of Wonky as operating as a vector transversal to genre, a transversal analysis in-itself operating beyond merely a postmodern genre-game. Rather than a pick and mix approach to generic materials, wonky is strategically applied to pre-existent genres, not as an adhesive but as a liquefying agent... [cf perhaps Negarestani's rotting objects?]... a making strange... not in the sense of hauntology's unheimlich-home, but in the deliquescent informational fluidity and interoperability of late capital, the strangeness of a blooming irridescant corpse, (not a spectre) a sonic embodiement of its distributive ground. Wonkitecture Quote Most obviously, the buildings literally look wonky. They bend, they twist, they appear to collapse or leap, their masses shift and cantilever – put simply their forms appear “out of place, out of key and misshapen” to borrow from Alex SBA.Second, recent architecture has been awash in bright colour due to increasing whimsy on the architects’ behalf as well as advances in synthetic cladding. This calls to mind the common synesthetic tendency to associate the multi-textured and pitch-bent synths of wonky with bright day-glo colour. Quote A final parallel could be seen between the overall extravagance and visual sensation of these buildings and the dramatic arpeggios of a producer like Zomby. The rapid climb of notes in Kaliko (painstakingly transcribed by RF here) is akin to the dramatic oblique ascent of windows on Gehry’s Stata Centre, the twisting beams of Calatrava’s Turning Torso or the interior of Libeskind's Denver Art Museum. hell yeah lol wow that is some of the most hilarious shit i've read in a while, thanks for aggregating it Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide awepittance's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/59361-wonky-is-an-extremely-intellectual-subject/#findComment-1408330 Share on other sites More sharing options...
awepittance Posted September 4, 2010 Report Share Posted September 4, 2010 Quote The kaleidoscopic play of constantly rolling textures in expanded tonality reminds me of nineteenth- and twentieth-century études or studies, especially those composed by avant-gardist György Ligeti this reviewer seems to be confusing Gyorgy Ligeti with the arpeggios from a SID chip /commodore 64 Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide awepittance's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/59361-wonky-is-an-extremely-intellectual-subject/#findComment-1408334 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atop Posted September 4, 2010 Report Share Posted September 4, 2010 Reveal hidden contents Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Atop's signature Hide all signatures music by ATOPdj mixes by ATOP https://woodbetweenworlds.bandcamp.com/album/777 https://auralcanyonmusic.bandcamp.com/album/once-i-was-as-you-are-now Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/59361-wonky-is-an-extremely-intellectual-subject/#findComment-1408395 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Wall Bird Posted September 4, 2010 Report Share Posted September 4, 2010 I dove straight into the musical characteristics. I'm loving the analysis so far. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/59361-wonky-is-an-extremely-intellectual-subject/#findComment-1408407 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atop Posted September 4, 2010 Report Share Posted September 4, 2010 Reveal hidden contents POST-DILLA DAWG! Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Atop's signature Hide all signatures music by ATOPdj mixes by ATOP https://woodbetweenworlds.bandcamp.com/album/777 https://auralcanyonmusic.bandcamp.com/album/once-i-was-as-you-are-now Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/59361-wonky-is-an-extremely-intellectual-subject/#findComment-1408415 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salvatorin Posted September 4, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 4, 2010 On 9/4/2010 at 2:42 AM, Wall Bird said: I dove straight into the musical characteristics. I'm loving the analysis so far. Yeah, none of this is actually overexplanatory/pedantic. Almost everything in that essay poses good observations. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Salvatorin's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/59361-wonky-is-an-extremely-intellectual-subject/#findComment-1408519 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sirch Posted September 4, 2010 Report Share Posted September 4, 2010 shut up an talk sense. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/59361-wonky-is-an-extremely-intellectual-subject/#findComment-1408530 Share on other sites More sharing options...
modey Posted September 4, 2010 Report Share Posted September 4, 2010 put a wonk on it Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide modey's signature Hide all signatures youtube | bandcamp | soundcloud | twitter | facebook 0F.digital Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/59361-wonky-is-an-extremely-intellectual-subject/#findComment-1408584 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atop Posted September 4, 2010 Report Share Posted September 4, 2010 wonk yer life up ya'llz!!!!!!! Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Atop's signature Hide all signatures music by ATOPdj mixes by ATOP https://woodbetweenworlds.bandcamp.com/album/777 https://auralcanyonmusic.bandcamp.com/album/once-i-was-as-you-are-now Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/59361-wonky-is-an-extremely-intellectual-subject/#findComment-1408600 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salvatorin Posted September 14, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 14, 2010 I wonder if 'facebook art' is wonky? Are we going to see wonky literature soon? WOnkY? Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Salvatorin's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/59361-wonky-is-an-extremely-intellectual-subject/#findComment-1415477 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mellow U Posted September 14, 2010 Report Share Posted September 14, 2010 How is it, to wonk? I think I'm gonna wonk down to the bathroom and wiz. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Mellow U's signature Hide all signatures On 12/3/2011 at 11:42 PM, 'Enter a new display name' said: inb4 Mellow U complaining Milieu Music Listening-techno, bedroom ambient and organic electronic music for the discerning consumer. Recycled Plastics : Bedroom music for electric adults! Psøma Psi Phi : 000BPM sleep fictions for intimate applications. >>> THE STONE IN FOCUS SUBFORUM IS HERE <<< Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/59361-wonky-is-an-extremely-intellectual-subject/#findComment-1415540 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atop Posted September 14, 2010 Report Share Posted September 14, 2010 The Third Policeman is wonky lit.... Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Atop's signature Hide all signatures music by ATOPdj mixes by ATOP https://woodbetweenworlds.bandcamp.com/album/777 https://auralcanyonmusic.bandcamp.com/album/once-i-was-as-you-are-now Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/59361-wonky-is-an-extremely-intellectual-subject/#findComment-1415553 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salvatorin Posted October 7, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 7, 2010 I think this might be wonky: Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Salvatorin's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/59361-wonky-is-an-extremely-intellectual-subject/#findComment-1431674 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salvatorin Posted February 4, 2011 Author Report Share Posted February 4, 2011 can someone tell me if this is watmm's mosca: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jmFytXHkOu Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Salvatorin's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/59361-wonky-is-an-extremely-intellectual-subject/#findComment-1510117 Share on other sites More sharing options...
awepittance Posted February 5, 2011 Report Share Posted February 5, 2011 if it's 'mosca dubs' no , btw cant see what you posted Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide awepittance's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/59361-wonky-is-an-extremely-intellectual-subject/#findComment-1510142 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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