encey Posted October 20, 2010 Report Share Posted October 20, 2010 I think my problem with these tracks is that they sound anemic. I like the vocal melodies, but the drumbeats and rhythm guitars (or whatever), are so straight 4/4 strum-strum-strum, the dynamics of the song are flatter than Laguna Beach-era Heidi. I think with more buildup, or more drum fills, or even just more interesting snare sounds, fuck, these songs could be a lot more exciting. But it's like listening to Joy Division sung over a little Casio keyboard drum preset. It's like drinking a delicious-looking beer only to realize it's long gone flat. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide encey's signature Hide all signatures essines said: i am hot shit ... that smells like baking bread. Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/59867-shobaleader-one-band-members/page/3/#findComment-1441294 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Candiru Posted October 20, 2010 Report Share Posted October 20, 2010 On 10/20/2010 at 7:31 PM, encey said: I think my problem with these tracks is that they sound anemic. I like the vocal melodies, but the drumbeats and rhythm guitars (or whatever), are so straight 4/4 strum-strum-strum, the dynamics of the song are flatter than Laguna Beach-era Heidi. I think with more buildup, or more drum fills, or even just more interesting snare sounds, fuck, these songs could be a lot more exciting. But it's like listening to Joy Division sung over a little Casio keyboard drum preset. It's like drinking a delicious-looking beer only to realize it's long gone flat. You pretty much nailed it. The vocal melodies are pretty much the only likable part about this for me. The rest is kinda limp. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/59867-shobaleader-one-band-members/page/3/#findComment-1441343 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Billov Posted October 20, 2010 Report Share Posted October 20, 2010 On 9/22/2010 at 11:15 PM, encey said: 'crayon sample,' lol crayon sample Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/59867-shobaleader-one-band-members/page/3/#findComment-1441380 Share on other sites More sharing options...
encey Posted October 20, 2010 Report Share Posted October 20, 2010 On 10/20/2010 at 9:12 PM, Candiru said: On 10/20/2010 at 7:31 PM, encey said: I think my problem with these tracks is that they sound anemic. I like the vocal melodies, but the drumbeats and rhythm guitars (or whatever), are so straight 4/4 strum-strum-strum, the dynamics of the song are flatter than Laguna Beach-era Heidi. I think with more buildup, or more drum fills, or even just more interesting snare sounds, fuck, these songs could be a lot more exciting. But it's like listening to Joy Division sung over a little Casio keyboard drum preset. It's like drinking a delicious-looking beer only to realize it's long gone flat. You pretty much nailed it. The vocal melodies are pretty much the only likable part about this for me. The rest is kinda limp. I just saw Lianne say this too, in the New & Upcoming Releases Subforum version of this thread. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide encey's signature Hide all signatures essines said: i am hot shit ... that smells like baking bread. Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/59867-shobaleader-one-band-members/page/3/#findComment-1441386 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Moss Acid Posted October 20, 2010 Report Share Posted October 20, 2010 why is the 909 getting so much stick (in other threads) i think its pretty lo-fi drum programming going on. just the style I like. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/59867-shobaleader-one-band-members/page/3/#findComment-1441393 Share on other sites More sharing options...
crono3 Posted October 20, 2010 Report Share Posted October 20, 2010 On 10/20/2010 at 10:12 PM, chris moss acid said: why is the 909 getting so much stick (in other threads) i think its pretty lo-fi drum programming going on. just the style I like. The more I listen to the album, the more the drums bother me. They just sound so lifeless and dead. It works on some songs, but on others it almost sounds laughable. I think a little bit of variety or even real drums would do wonders... anyways, I'm enjoying every other aspect of the album. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/59867-shobaleader-one-band-members/page/3/#findComment-1441406 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest benus333 Posted October 21, 2010 Report Share Posted October 21, 2010 (edited) I was listening to the new album yesterday (can't remember the track) and my 5 year old daughter walked in. I asked her, "Do you know who this is?" She said, "Squarepusher," straight away. I said, "Why do you think that? It's got singing and Squarepusher doesn't sing," as a clever trick. She said straight away, "The drums." I wonder if she gets tired of him using the same tiresome and immediately identifiable drum sounds. I don't think she would believe Shobaleader has any extra members, but I didn't ask. I will do I think. <-(Hers is the right arm) Edited October 21, 2010 by benus333 Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/59867-shobaleader-one-band-members/page/3/#findComment-1442092 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retape Posted October 21, 2010 Report Share Posted October 21, 2010 your daughter sounds awesome. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Retape's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/59867-shobaleader-one-band-members/page/3/#findComment-1442115 Share on other sites More sharing options...
awepittance Posted October 21, 2010 Report Share Posted October 21, 2010 (edited) On 10/20/2010 at 10:38 PM, crono3 said: On 10/20/2010 at 10:12 PM, chris moss acid said: why is the 909 getting so much stick (in other threads) i think its pretty lo-fi drum programming going on. just the style I like. The more I listen to the album, the more the drums bother me. They just sound so lifeless and dead. It works on some songs, but on others it almost sounds laughable. I think a little bit of variety or even real drums would do wonders... anyways, I'm enjoying every other aspect of the album. the 909 can be used well, i like it in certain contexts but this time it feels like a weird forced usage of it. Almost like Pusher realizes how far out he's gone to sounding like pop music that he needed something familiar to 'ground' squarepusher fans. I mean it could have been the amen break, which one would you rather have? I personally would prefer neither, I miss when he used meaty drums in general on his stuff. Selection 16 had tons of 909 on it, i fucking love selection 16. i hate to say this in a different new release thread for spusher but the man could really make a wonderful album if he had the help of another producer or recording engineer. As much as an awesome composer Tom is, he often mixes the ingredients together in ways that don't necessarily 'pop' sonically. Edited October 21, 2010 by Awepittance Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide awepittance's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/59867-shobaleader-one-band-members/page/3/#findComment-1442120 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaini Posted October 21, 2010 Report Share Posted October 21, 2010 i like this, but i agree that tom sometimes makes bizarre production/mixing/mastering decisions. ultravisitor sounds so fucking thin in places, and the distorted kick on megazine off this sounds downright weird (but good imo) Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide kaini's signature Hide all signatures On 5/7/2013 at 11:06 PM, ambermonk said: I know IDM can be extreme On 6/3/2017 at 11:50 PM, ladalaika said: this sounds like an airplane landing on a minefield Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/59867-shobaleader-one-band-members/page/3/#findComment-1442125 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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