YEK Posted October 4, 2010 Report Share Posted October 4, 2010 i have two pieces of equipment that i'll be using to record into acid pro or cool edit/ right now i have to plug each one into the (external) soundcard one at a time each time i want to record / i thought of using a mixer but right now i have my tt's plugged into my computer and it has a real nice sound and i heard that if i were to buy a small mixer the sound quality probably won't be good does anyone else in this forum plug stuff like this and not use a mixer? Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide YEK's signature Hide all signatures Reveal hidden contents !:/music Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/60232-should-i-mixer/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCM Posted October 4, 2010 Report Share Posted October 4, 2010 get a mixer Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide BCM's signature Hide all signatures Bandcamp | Spotify | SoundCloud | Amazon | Apple Music | YouTube | YouTube Music | Deezer | Google Play Music Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/60232-should-i-mixer/#findComment-1429218 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest wake Posted October 5, 2010 Report Share Posted October 5, 2010 Skip the mixer, get an audio interface. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/60232-should-i-mixer/#findComment-1429251 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAXIMUS MISCHIEF Posted October 5, 2010 Report Share Posted October 5, 2010 (edited) ya get an audio interface but dont get a presonus cuz they suck shit Edited October 5, 2010 by MAXIMUS MISCHIEF Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide MAXIMUS MISCHIEF's signature Hide all signatures official sup barnstar of coolness Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/60232-should-i-mixer/#findComment-1429269 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest wake Posted October 5, 2010 Report Share Posted October 5, 2010 I'm just hanging out with my Apogee. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/60232-should-i-mixer/#findComment-1429282 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chassis Posted October 5, 2010 Report Share Posted October 5, 2010 You should definitely mix her Also, ill need to get one if I ever want to start giggin' Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide chassis's signature Hide all signatures Reveal hidden contents Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/60232-should-i-mixer/#findComment-1429288 Share on other sites More sharing options...
YEK Posted October 5, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 5, 2010 i literally will only want 2,3, or 4 channels.. also, i like my audio interface thankyou very much! it's a tascam us-122 i guess i'll have to save money. are there small analog mixers that won't break the bank?> Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide YEK's signature Hide all signatures Reveal hidden contents !:/music Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/60232-should-i-mixer/#findComment-1429337 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest wake Posted October 5, 2010 Report Share Posted October 5, 2010 (edited) On 10/5/2010 at 1:56 AM, yek said: i literally will only want 2,3, or 4 channels.. lol. Love this usage of the word. Just get a Mackie if you want to deal with a mixer. They're not that expensive. I suggested an audio interface (or in this case a better audio interface) so that you could just skip the mixer and mix directly in the box and therefore have more control over your final mix. I use a mixer during the process of making music, but then I track everything directly into the computer with my interface, skipping the mixer. Edited October 5, 2010 by wake Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/60232-should-i-mixer/#findComment-1429342 Share on other sites More sharing options...
perunamuusi Posted October 5, 2010 Report Share Posted October 5, 2010 solder all the wires together and plug them into the same hole Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/60232-should-i-mixer/#findComment-1429347 Share on other sites More sharing options...
YEK Posted October 5, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 5, 2010 On 10/5/2010 at 2:09 AM, LUDD said: solder all the wires together and plug them into the same hole BRRZAPP! Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide YEK's signature Hide all signatures Reveal hidden contents !:/music Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/60232-should-i-mixer/#findComment-1429374 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Blanket Fort Collapse Posted October 5, 2010 Report Share Posted October 5, 2010 (edited) This is the cheapest mixer I could find with this many features. I bought it a few months ago, it definitely does the job. I needed a decent mixer with AUX for selective outing to a loop pedal for performances but I have been using it to all the time now. (I also use an Alesis Io|26 which has no EQs and many other things but has 8 channel recording)((things like that are going to cost quite a bit more) The EQs sound pretty good, it's definitely a great deal for the price. The USB interface is only 2 channels but you can use this mixer for a lot of purposes. $130 new from 32 sellers Behringer 1204 Xenyx Premium 12-Input 2/2-Bus Mixer with Xenyx Mic Preamps, British Eqs And Usb Audio Interface Edited October 5, 2010 by Blanket Fort Collapse Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/60232-should-i-mixer/#findComment-1429392 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Blanket Fort Collapse Posted October 5, 2010 Report Share Posted October 5, 2010 ... Yeah I definitely recommend getting the 1204.. 130 bucks for all that an USB stereo recording is a steal. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/60232-should-i-mixer/#findComment-1429394 Share on other sites More sharing options...
YEK Posted October 5, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 5, 2010 On 10/5/2010 at 3:18 AM, Blanket Fort Collapse said: ... Yeah I definitely recommend getting the 1204.. 130 bucks for all that an USB stereo recording is a steal. Behringer though... really? Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide YEK's signature Hide all signatures Reveal hidden contents !:/music Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/60232-should-i-mixer/#findComment-1429395 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest analogue wings Posted October 5, 2010 Report Share Posted October 5, 2010 yeah i have a behringer mixer that i bought as an upgrade to the built in mixer in my cassette 4 track. it was fucking great for that job, cos the built in mixer is truly appalling. i've also been using it as a too-lazy-too-unplug-shit front end to my audio interface. jam on 8 hardware synths live and then just hit record. no need to overdub. all good. but. the other day i was tracking a tune and i plugged the synths directly into the interface and they just sounded soooooooo much better... so yeah. it's a cliche for a reason. behringers are shit. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/60232-should-i-mixer/#findComment-1429400 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest wake Posted October 5, 2010 Report Share Posted October 5, 2010 (edited) Yeah, no Behringer... From Ceephax's website(http://www.ceephax.co.uk/GIGZ.htm): Quote LIVE SET EQUIPMENT I NEEDMICROPHONE CD PLAYER (Pioneer CDJ 1000) 16 CHANNEL MIXING DESK...MACKIE 1604, SPIRIT FX16...nothing massive, nothing old and dusty, and no Behringers (please) KEYBOARD STAND (if you have one it saves table space) +LOTS AND LOTS OF TABLE SPACE For the lols. Edited October 5, 2010 by wake Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/60232-should-i-mixer/#findComment-1429404 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Blanket Fort Collapse Posted October 5, 2010 Report Share Posted October 5, 2010 Older Behringers were just hind of hissy was the most problems I had ever seen with them. I know their gear gained a pretty bad wrap over the years but this is the newest generation of their value mixers. ITS A FUCKING 130 DOLLARS AND HAS USB DIRECT RECORDING AND ALL THOSE FEATURES. How can you really go wrong for that price when a fellow watmm user is saying they have had one for months and are recommending it (mind you I am definitely a snob to the details I am no lazy yeah I guess it works person) it works GREAT. Absolutely NO complaints after using it for so many different purposes. Tell Daft Punks expensive production team that their BCR2000's are Behringers... Even companies that get bad wraps can make some great stuff you should have to be smart.... and vise versa... Companies that everyone says are THE shit can make some crappy shit shit. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/60232-should-i-mixer/#findComment-1429439 Share on other sites More sharing options...
YEK Posted October 5, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 5, 2010 On 10/5/2010 at 4:36 AM, Blanket Fort Collapse said: Older Behringers were just hind of hissy was the most problems I had ever seen with them. I know their gear gained a pretty bad wrap over the years but this is the newest generation of their value mixers. ITS A FUCKING 130 DOLLARS AND HAS USB DIRECT RECORDING AND ALL THOSE FEATURES. How can you really go wrong for that price when a fellow watmm user is saying they have had one for months and are recommending it (mind you I am definitely a snob to the details I am no lazy yeah I guess it works person) it works GREAT. Absolutely NO complaints after using it for so many different purposes. Tell Daft Punks expensive production team that their BCR2000's are Behringers... Even companies that get bad wraps can make some great stuff you should have to be smart.... and vise versa... Companies that everyone says are THE shit can make some crappy shit shit. it's definitely jotted down, i respect your opinion Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide YEK's signature Hide all signatures Reveal hidden contents !:/music Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/60232-should-i-mixer/#findComment-1429442 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest analogue wings Posted October 5, 2010 Report Share Posted October 5, 2010 I own a lot of Behringer gear. The majority of it (like the BCR2000) is in no position to threaten my audio signal path. Other stuff, like the stompboxes, are just effects I use from time to time. The mixer colours the sound of every single instrument in your setup, 100% of the time. With modern multi-input interfaces a mixer isn't really necessary. So in the case of a mixer, I'd either get a good one with desirable tonal qualities, or if I couldn't afford one, I'd go straight into the interface. If necessary I'd upgrade to an interface with more inputs. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/60232-should-i-mixer/#findComment-1429455 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Blanket Fort Collapse Posted October 5, 2010 Report Share Posted October 5, 2010 Stompboxes colour the sound of your signal 99.99% of the time, there are very few stompboxes with true bypass. I have played guitar for around 12 years, I have tried so many different stomp boxes, signal processors, digital modelers, amps etc.. . I have definitely seen what hiss, buzz, signal degrading sounds like and I A/B my guitar/vocal/bass tones with different things out of the signal chain every time I am deciding if I am going to return something I bought. I can assure you that $130 mixer provides little to no colouring on the tonality of what its presented with. Like I said I have a $400 dollar Alesis Io | 26 firewire with 8 xlr/8th pre amps, I love its recording sound quality and that I can bus 4 different mixes into 4 different stereo outputs but its not very fun to use a unit like that without a dedicated midi controller setup to control it. Its very nice having traditional mixer controls. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/60232-should-i-mixer/#findComment-1429460 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCM Posted October 5, 2010 Report Share Posted October 5, 2010 gear snobbery :( nothing wrong with behringer for the price! sure, spend more if you want but you won't find a lot else for the same money. btw all my tunes (recent ones anyway) are mixed on a behringer :0 Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide BCM's signature Hide all signatures Bandcamp | Spotify | SoundCloud | Amazon | Apple Music | YouTube | YouTube Music | Deezer | Google Play Music Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/60232-should-i-mixer/#findComment-1429597 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest analogue wings Posted October 5, 2010 Report Share Posted October 5, 2010 On 10/5/2010 at 10:35 AM, BCM said: gear snobbery :( nothing wrong with behringer for the price! sure, spend more if you want but you won't find a lot else for the same money. btw all my tunes (recent ones anyway) are mixed on a behringer :0 i used to be just like you - til i tried bypassing my behringer :0 indeed. no sobbery, just my ears crying Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/60232-should-i-mixer/#findComment-1429598 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Blanket Fort Collapse Posted October 5, 2010 Report Share Posted October 5, 2010 Very few companies put the exact same level of quality into their manufacturing year after year after year. Nothing is really that consistent. New engineers get hired, old engineers get fired, manufacturing facilities change, manufacturing regulations change. It's like loving or hating a football time for 20 years that has gone through hundreds of line up changes, owner changes, coach changes, stadium changes etc. etc. etc. etc. SHIT CHANGES like it or not. Your 93' Saab might have been designed by completely different engineers, with a completely different CEO and made at a completely different manufacturing FOR BETTER OR WORSE than the 99' Saab your thinking of buying on Ebay auto. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/60232-should-i-mixer/#findComment-1429606 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest wake Posted October 5, 2010 Report Share Posted October 5, 2010 Just sayin'.... Behringer mixers are shitty. They make good studio monitors though. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/60232-should-i-mixer/#findComment-1429611 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest wake Posted October 5, 2010 Report Share Posted October 5, 2010 On 10/5/2010 at 12:15 PM, Blanket Fort Collapse said: times infinity. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/60232-should-i-mixer/#findComment-1429624 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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