Siegecow Posted October 8, 2010 Report Share Posted October 8, 2010 (edited) So what is the measure of a good logo then? How has this new design made things worse? Edited October 8, 2010 by 24ourange Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Siegecow's signature Hide all signatures On 3/16/2011 at 8:14 PM, troon said: fuck off! Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/60321-gap-logo/page/2/#findComment-1431978 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jules Posted October 8, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 8, 2010 (edited) well first if you have to recreate your logo for a one color application, its not good. i dont know any of the other pieces of thier new branding so im not going to say this new logo is as terrible as everyone is saying. but i mean look at that thing for christs sake. if a freshman in high school made it in word, ok, but if some branding agency charged them 10s of thousands of dollars well then its not good for either party involved because its generic and stale and has no lasting appeal Edited October 8, 2010 by jules Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide jules's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/60321-gap-logo/page/2/#findComment-1431981 Share on other sites More sharing options...
splesh Posted October 8, 2010 Report Share Posted October 8, 2010 Some guy sent in the old logo, see number 21 of the entries. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/60321-gap-logo/page/2/#findComment-1431982 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jules Posted October 8, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 8, 2010 (edited) there are about 4 decent entries out of 200+ no 152 is an old logo they used as well Edited October 8, 2010 by jules Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide jules's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/60321-gap-logo/page/2/#findComment-1431983 Share on other sites More sharing options...
keltoi Posted October 8, 2010 Report Share Posted October 8, 2010 (edited) Gay And Proud Edited October 8, 2010 by keltoi Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide keltoi's signature Hide all signatures Reveal hidden contents Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/60321-gap-logo/page/2/#findComment-1432127 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaosmachine Posted October 8, 2010 Report Share Posted October 8, 2010 you guys realize this is a marketing trick, and it worked perfectly. now they have thousands of links and topics on every design blog and forum in the universe. gap just trolled you. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide all signatures WATMM Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/60321-gap-logo/page/2/#findComment-1432155 Share on other sites More sharing options...
keltoi Posted October 8, 2010 Report Share Posted October 8, 2010 On 10/8/2010 at 11:54 AM, chaosmachine said: you guys realize this is a marketing trick, and it worked perfectly. now they have thousands of links and topics on every design blog and forum in the universe. gap just trolled you. ! Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide keltoi's signature Hide all signatures Reveal hidden contents Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/60321-gap-logo/page/2/#findComment-1432158 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornflakes002 Posted October 8, 2010 Report Share Posted October 8, 2010 Welcome to the world of psychological advertising http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XtvHNfomZL8 Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Cornflakes002's signature Hide all signatures give a fuck Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/60321-gap-logo/page/2/#findComment-1432165 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jules Posted October 8, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 8, 2010 On 10/8/2010 at 11:54 AM, chaosmachine said: you guys realize this is a marketing trick, and it worked perfectly. now they have thousands of links and topics on every design blog and forum in the universe. gap just trolled you. lol. please tell me you are joking. lets say mcdonalds spends 2 years and tens of thousands of dollars to put out a new burger. when the burger comes out, everyone tastes it and realizes its made with dogshit. no one likes it at all and then mcdonalds says, ha we got you! just kidding just kidding. so um what do you think our new burger should be? Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide jules's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/60321-gap-logo/page/2/#findComment-1432167 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chassis Posted October 8, 2010 Report Share Posted October 8, 2010 Ye that new one looks like some shit software logo. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide chassis's signature Hide all signatures Reveal hidden contents Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/60321-gap-logo/page/2/#findComment-1432291 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Deep Fried Everything Posted October 8, 2010 Report Share Posted October 8, 2010 On 10/8/2010 at 12:56 PM, jules said: On 10/8/2010 at 11:54 AM, chaosmachine said: you guys realize this is a marketing trick, and it worked perfectly. now they have thousands of links and topics on every design blog and forum in the universe. gap just trolled you. lol. please tell me you are joking. lets say mcdonalds spends 2 years and tens of thousands of dollars to put out a new burger. when the burger comes out, everyone tastes it and realizes its made with dogshit. no one likes it at all and then mcdonalds says, ha we got you! just kidding just kidding. so um what do you think our new burger should be? i don't think you quite follow what he's saying here, and the analogy to food is completely wrong. we're talking intagibles here... eyeball time. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/60321-gap-logo/page/2/#findComment-1432300 Share on other sites More sharing options...
QBLA Posted October 8, 2010 Report Share Posted October 8, 2010 all right... i'm gonna get all geeked out here. i recreated the logo and made a couple B&W versions as well. i also printed it, took it to the B&W Copier Scanned it and printed it out. as you can see in the scanned copy, the gradient doesn't hold up. only solution around this is to solidify the square and to ad a stroke to the "p". Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide QBLA's signature Hide all signatures BONDING TAPES JOYFUL UNION CASSETTE BLOG ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/60321-gap-logo/page/2/#findComment-1432342 Share on other sites More sharing options...
QBLA Posted October 8, 2010 Report Share Posted October 8, 2010 and i have no idea why the scanned version came out all stretched out. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide QBLA's signature Hide all signatures BONDING TAPES JOYFUL UNION CASSETTE BLOG ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/60321-gap-logo/page/2/#findComment-1432348 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jules Posted October 8, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 8, 2010 On 10/8/2010 at 6:52 PM, Deep Fried Everything said: On 10/8/2010 at 12:56 PM, jules said: On 10/8/2010 at 11:54 AM, chaosmachine said: you guys realize this is a marketing trick, and it worked perfectly. now they have thousands of links and topics on every design blog and forum in the universe. gap just trolled you. lol. please tell me you are joking. lets say mcdonalds spends 2 years and tens of thousands of dollars to put out a new burger. when the burger comes out, everyone tastes it and realizes its made with dogshit. no one likes it at all and then mcdonalds says, ha we got you! just kidding just kidding. so um what do you think our new burger should be? i don't think you quite follow what he's saying here, and the analogy to food is completely wrong. we're talking intagibles here... eyeball time. im just sayting they didnt send out a shit logo to get designers to have contests online to make their logo better as a strategy. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide jules's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/60321-gap-logo/page/2/#findComment-1432358 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaosmachine Posted October 8, 2010 Report Share Posted October 8, 2010 On 10/8/2010 at 7:45 PM, jules said: im just sayting they didnt send out a shit logo to get designers to have contests online to make their logo better as a strategy. "Thanks for the logo buzz! After 20+ yrs, it’s time for a change. We like the new one, but want to see your ideas." http://twitter.com/#!/Gap/status/26606991562 Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide all signatures WATMM Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/60321-gap-logo/page/2/#findComment-1432369 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jules Posted October 8, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 8, 2010 (edited) On 10/8/2010 at 8:00 PM, chaosmachine said: On 10/8/2010 at 7:45 PM, jules said: im just sayting they didnt send out a shit logo to get designers to have contests online to make their logo better as a strategy. "Thanks for the logo buzz! After 20+ yrs, it’s time for a change. We like the new one, but want to see your ideas." http://twitter.com/#!/Gap/status/26606991562 thats called cover your ass, not a creative strategy. they are back-peddling faster than a midget on a unicycle. if their real goal was to crowd source, they would have something set up to do so, and they also would not have paid a major advertising agency (http://www.lairdandpartners.com/) to work on a new identity system for 2 years. Edited October 8, 2010 by jules Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide jules's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/60321-gap-logo/page/2/#findComment-1432394 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lumpenprol Posted October 8, 2010 Report Share Posted October 8, 2010 this brings to mind the pepsi logo redesign justification doc, now that was a true lol. Gibberish of the highest order. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide lumpenprol's signature Hide all signatures After this I listened to geogaddi and I didn't like it, I was quite vomitting at some tracks, I realized they were too crazy for my ears, they took too much acid to play music I stupidly thought (cliché of psyché music) But I knew this album was a kind of big forest where I just wasn't able to go inside. - lost cloud I was in US tjis summer, and eat in KFC. FUCK That's the worst thing i've ever eaten. The flesh simply doesn't cleave to the bones. Battery ferming. And then, foie gras is banned from NY state, because it's considered as ill-treat. IT'S NOT. KFC is tourist ill-treat. YOU POISONERS! Two hours after being to KFC, i stopped in a amsih little town barf all that KFC shit out. Nice work! So i hope this woman is not like kfc chicken, otherwise she'll be pulled to pieces. -organized confused project Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/60321-gap-logo/page/2/#findComment-1432404 Share on other sites More sharing options...
vertsk8er419 Posted October 8, 2010 Report Share Posted October 8, 2010 On 10/8/2010 at 12:46 PM, Craig Anderson said: Welcome to the world of psychological advertising Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide vertsk8er419's signature Hide all signatures youtube • last.fm Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/60321-gap-logo/page/2/#findComment-1432427 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jules Posted October 8, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 8, 2010 On 10/8/2010 at 8:44 PM, lumpenprol said: this brings to mind the pepsi logo redesign justification doc, now that was a true lol. Gibberish of the highest order. exactly Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide jules's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/60321-gap-logo/page/2/#findComment-1432444 Share on other sites More sharing options...
eugene Posted October 8, 2010 Report Share Posted October 8, 2010 maan i want to buy some GAP right now Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/60321-gap-logo/page/2/#findComment-1432448 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidewinder Posted October 8, 2010 Report Share Posted October 8, 2010 On 10/8/2010 at 7:34 PM, asymmetrical head said: and i have no idea why the scanned version came out all stretched out. It's cuz your printer went when it saw the new logo. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide sidewinder's signature Hide all signatures last.fm | rym | my vinyl on Instagram Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/60321-gap-logo/page/2/#findComment-1432450 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tht tne Posted October 9, 2010 Report Share Posted October 9, 2010 here's my submittal for the new gap graphic: Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/60321-gap-logo/page/2/#findComment-1432682 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joyrex Posted October 11, 2010 Report Share Posted October 11, 2010 On 10/8/2010 at 4:01 AM, 24ourange said: Something makes me think gap might care more about customer reaction to the aesthetics of their public icon than if the thing shows up in a fax. I'm pretty sure any graphic designer could make it safe for b&w printing within 10 seconds. Sure they could, but that would require changing the logo, and that's typically something you never do with a brand or logotype - consistency in presentation is how an iconic brand logo is established... Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide all signatures Follow WATMM on Twitter: @WATMMOfficial Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/60321-gap-logo/page/2/#findComment-1434069 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jules Posted October 11, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 11, 2010 On 10/11/2010 at 5:35 PM, Joy Rex said: On 10/8/2010 at 4:01 AM, 24ourange said: Something makes me think gap might care more about customer reaction to the aesthetics of their public icon than if the thing shows up in a fax. I'm pretty sure any graphic designer could make it safe for b&w printing within 10 seconds. Sure they could, but that would require changing the logo, and that's typically something you never do with a brand or logotype - consistency in presentation is how an iconic brand logo is established... you have to change your logo as a brand. the key in consistency is doing it in subtle shifts, you cant just throw everything out and start over. tropicana is a perfect example. they rebranded and minute maid oj rebranded around the same time. minute maid is gorgeous and raised no flags because it still looks like minute maid. this whole gap thing is so out of control. they have been using "gap" in helvetica for over a year now, its just the sloppy handling of that gradient square thats caused a riot of piling on. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide jules's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/60321-gap-logo/page/2/#findComment-1434072 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joyrex Posted October 11, 2010 Report Share Posted October 11, 2010 On 10/11/2010 at 5:39 PM, jules said: On 10/11/2010 at 5:35 PM, Joy Rex said: On 10/8/2010 at 4:01 AM, 24ourange said: Something makes me think gap might care more about customer reaction to the aesthetics of their public icon than if the thing shows up in a fax. I'm pretty sure any graphic designer could make it safe for b&w printing within 10 seconds. Sure they could, but that would require changing the logo, and that's typically something you never do with a brand or logotype - consistency in presentation is how an iconic brand logo is established... you have to change your logo as a brand. the key in consistency is doing it in subtle shifts, you cant just throw everything out and start over. tropicana is a perfect example. they rebranded and minute maid oj rebranded around the same time. minute maid is gorgeous and raised no flags because it still looks like minute maid. this whole gap thing is so out of control. they have been using "gap" in helvetica for over a year now, its just the sloppy handling of that gradient square thats caused a riot of piling on. Yes, changing the logo over time is certainly a way to keep the image fresh, but in Gap's case, they seemed to change it this time for the sake of doing so, rather than any successful attempt to freshen the brand image (which personally I thought was fine). Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide all signatures Follow WATMM on Twitter: @WATMMOfficial Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/60321-gap-logo/page/2/#findComment-1434075 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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