wahrk Posted November 22, 2010 Report Share Posted November 22, 2010 a little article for you to digest Reveal hidden contents Quote What Not to Say to an Introvert Introverts, those quiet creatures that walk among you, are not as mild-mannered as made out to be. They seethe and even will lash out at those who encroach upon or malign their personal comfort zones. Here are a few emotional buttons to avoid with your introverted companions. "'Why don't you like parties? Don't you like people?' is a common remark introverts hear," says Marti Laney, a psychologist and the author of The Introvert Advantage. "Usually we like people fine," she insists. "We just like them in small doses." Cocktail parties can be deadly. "We're social but it's a different type of socializing." "Surprise, we've decided to bring the family and stay with you for the weekend." Anyone anywhere on the -vert spectrum could find such a declaration objectionable, but it's more likely to bring an introvert to a boil, according to Nancy Ancowitz. Introverts count on their downtime to rejuvenate their resources; an extended presence in their homes robs them of that respite. Don't demand immediate feedback from an introvert. "Extraverts think we have answers but just aren't giving them," Laney says. "They don't understand we need time to formulate them" and often won't talk until a thought is suitably polished. Don't ask introverts why they're not contributing in meetings. If you're holding a brainstorming session, let the introvert prepare, or encourage him to follow up with his contributions afterward. Don't interrupt if an introvert does get to talking. Listen closely. "Being overlooked is a really big issue for introverts," Laney says. Introverts are unlikely to repeat themselves; they will not risk making the same mistake twice. Above all, "we hate people telling us how we can be more extraverted, as if that's the desired state," says Beth Buelow, a life and leadership coach for introverts. Many introverts are happy with the way they are. And if you're not, that's your problem.—Matthew Hutson Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide wahrk's signature Hide all signatures website soundcloud facebook patreonnew wahrk music threadKarakasa Music Aleph9 DEFUNKT TX Chip Quote abusivegeorge | WAHRK STRANGENESS AND CHARM Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/61619-revenge-of-the-introvert/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cryptowen Posted November 22, 2010 Report Share Posted November 22, 2010 I sure hope they don't turn liking to spend time alone into the next Asperger's. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Cryptowen's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/61619-revenge-of-the-introvert/#findComment-1461261 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gary C Posted November 22, 2010 Report Share Posted November 22, 2010 I like what I've read so far. I'll read it all tomorrow. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/61619-revenge-of-the-introvert/#findComment-1461269 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest fiznuthian Posted November 22, 2010 Report Share Posted November 22, 2010 thanks for this! i read through all of it, and i'm glad i did. i'm a terrible introvert, i struggle with social relationships, meeting people, being outgoing, etc.. it hinders me with people often. i spend an extraordinary amount of time constructing internally how i will communicate with people. and like mentioned in the article its a real struggle for me to keep up with chatty people who have no filter. i envy them and how they seem to have no problem with saying whats on their mind. ive tried for years now to acquire the skill and still fail horribly. only in rare form do i lose my filter and talk people silly, and yet when i do it feels effortless. if only i could maintain that state? i always assumed i was just not right, mentally ill or something. i have a crippling social phobia and i am sure that does not help, i really just fucking lost my shit today, just emotionally lost it. so yeah, maybe its just pop science this article, but it made me feel hopeful that im not just fucked. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/61619-revenge-of-the-introvert/#findComment-1461325 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berk Posted November 22, 2010 Report Share Posted November 22, 2010 (edited) I'm an introvert as well, but I'm not sure if introvert/extravert is a matter of characteristics or simply (lack of) angst. And it seems that among my friends most of them are extravert, so I wonder if there are relatively less introverted people out there, it seems so.> nvm found it in the article, pretty obvious of course "It's just that perceptual biases lead us all to overestimate the number of extraverts among us" Edited November 22, 2010 by Berk Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Berk's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/61619-revenge-of-the-introvert/#findComment-1461345 Share on other sites More sharing options...
wahrk Posted November 22, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 22, 2010 On 11/22/2010 at 1:58 AM, fiznuthian said: thanks for this! i read through all of it, and i'm glad i did. i'm a terrible introvert, i struggle with social relationships, meeting people, being outgoing, etc.. it hinders me with people often. i spend an extraordinary amount of time constructing internally how i will communicate with people. and like mentioned in the article its a real struggle for me to keep up with chatty people who have no filter. i envy them and how they seem to have no problem with saying whats on their mind. ive tried for years now to acquire the skill and still fail horribly. only in rare form do i lose my filter and talk people silly, and yet when i do it feels effortless. if only i could maintain that state? i always assumed i was just not right, mentally ill or something. i have a crippling social phobia and i am sure that does not help, i really just fucking lost my shit today, just emotionally lost it. so yeah, maybe its just pop science this article, but it made me feel hopeful that im not just fucked. You are welcome, sir. I too am quite the introvert. I trained myself over the years to be able to put out a solid up-to-speed personality for social interactions, especially in a situations that present better opportunities when approached as such, but it's taxing and I don't like it all that much. It's also made me really cynical. I go to shows to see bands and I go to clubs to dance. I rarely talk to anyone and I've definitely never thought of them as places where I could meet new friends. If I want to socialize I'll go over to a friend's place and chill. But yes, there is hope that perhaps other people can be made to realize that it's fun to sit in your room and read a book, organize your music library, and ponder on how you're going to restructure your room to make room for a kitten, even when you're a mile from the club your pals are gettin' crunk at with the intention of picking up ladies. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide wahrk's signature Hide all signatures website soundcloud facebook patreonnew wahrk music threadKarakasa Music Aleph9 DEFUNKT TX Chip Quote abusivegeorge | WAHRK STRANGENESS AND CHARM Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/61619-revenge-of-the-introvert/#findComment-1461346 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Promo Posted November 22, 2010 Report Share Posted November 22, 2010 On 11/22/2010 at 2:28 AM, Berk said: "It's just that perceptual biases lead us all to overestimate the number of extraverts among us" Yeah, I wouldn't be suprised if that's the case. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/61619-revenge-of-the-introvert/#findComment-1461361 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bramsworth Posted November 22, 2010 Report Share Posted November 22, 2010 Quote "Don't interrupt if an introvert does get to talking." This happens to me ALL THE FUCKING TIME!!!!!! I always am talking and it never fails that the person just cuts in like they didn't even hear me talking at all. It's so rude and uncalled for. If they even notice I'm there it should be so damn obvious I'm talking ffs. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/61619-revenge-of-the-introvert/#findComment-1461369 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GORDO Posted November 22, 2010 Report Share Posted November 22, 2010 read this a while ago about how to treat us :P : http://www.jonathanrauch.com/jrauch_articles/caring_for_your_introvert/ and this: Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide GORDO's signature Hide all signatures ZOMG! Lazerz pew pew pew!!!!11!!1!!!!1!oneone!shift+one!~!!! Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/61619-revenge-of-the-introvert/#findComment-1461435 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest fiznuthian Posted November 22, 2010 Report Share Posted November 22, 2010 On 11/22/2010 at 3:03 AM, Bramsworth said: Quote "Don't interrupt if an introvert does get to talking." This happens to me ALL THE FUCKING TIME!!!!!! I always am talking and it never fails that the person just cuts in like they didn't even hear me talking at all. It's so rude and uncalled for. If they even notice I'm there it should be so damn obvious I'm talking ffs. interruption gets me steamed briefly then i lose focus. it can disorganize my thoughts, or just scatterbrain me. usually shuts me down and at that point i'm now thinking about a multitude of things not pertaining to the conversation at hand Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/61619-revenge-of-the-introvert/#findComment-1461439 Share on other sites More sharing options...
wahrk Posted November 22, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 22, 2010 On 11/22/2010 at 5:14 AM, GORDO said: Enable them to find one best friend who has similar interests and abilities; encourage this relationship even if the friend moves. Ah, the trauma of my childhood. That best friend being pulled out of my life fucked me up something fierce. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide wahrk's signature Hide all signatures website soundcloud facebook patreonnew wahrk music threadKarakasa Music Aleph9 DEFUNKT TX Chip Quote abusivegeorge | WAHRK STRANGENESS AND CHARM Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/61619-revenge-of-the-introvert/#findComment-1461447 Share on other sites More sharing options...
marf Posted November 22, 2010 Report Share Posted November 22, 2010 Im a loner and an introvert. but some might think im extraverted cause when around new people I try to put on my wittiest person to make the whole thing feel as smooth as possible. I do pepper people with questions and try to make a conversation go as smoothly as possible but Im usually in agony the whole time. Im good at it though Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/61619-revenge-of-the-introvert/#findComment-1461448 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Backson Posted November 22, 2010 Report Share Posted November 22, 2010 I show some of these characteristics, but then again I assume everyone on Wattum would. except Joyrex. he's a big bully. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/61619-revenge-of-the-introvert/#findComment-1461466 Share on other sites More sharing options...
remy marathe Posted November 22, 2010 Report Share Posted November 22, 2010 most of the things introverts supposedly demand are just natural ways that all people should be treated. who actually likes being embarrassed in public? most people can't formulate an instant answer to something. it seems like coddling. as if being socially awkward is this special class of person. i don't see the distinction. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/61619-revenge-of-the-introvert/#findComment-1461469 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest fiznuthian Posted November 22, 2010 Report Share Posted November 22, 2010 who here has often been told they seem good with people, yet are complete introverts? i've been told most of my life i'm good at talking to people yet i feel like a social gimp, i spend 90% of my time doing isolating tasks. see: watmm. in grade school i heard a lot of remarks about my speeches being interesting, girls have often told me they love to listen to me talk, as if i give them the feeling they're learning something. it does fuck all to attract a girl. even had a friend's friend of a friend in a room full of people say "hey, i just wanted to say i really look up to you, man. i've heard about you." or something to that affect about how i'm a cool dude, getting almost melodramatic about it. it came out of nowhere, and he got nervous about saying it like i had some kind of mysterious presence over him. the entire time i was feeling confused and awkward, really wondering just what kind of things people must be telling the guy. i barely even know him still, never really did. this kind of thing has happened often. that second posted article mentioned introverts giving captivating speeches but freaking out at the thought of attending parties, then a lot of you fellow introverts keep saying you get good at "playing the part" of an extravert. that's why i ask.. call it the BoC affect - being allured to the quiet, mysterious presence. the guys both shy away from public appearance and it accumulates interest. i still feel like a turd though, there's really no mystery to it.. if i'm away alone doing my thing i'm not brewing up genius, i'm just avoiding the mountain of small-talk i'd have to go through if i left my comfort-zones. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/61619-revenge-of-the-introvert/#findComment-1461473 Share on other sites More sharing options...
wahrk Posted November 22, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 22, 2010 (edited) Eggs-fucking-zacktly. Reveal hidden contents Wait...so watmm is full of intelligent introverted individuals who are also capable of promoting superior self-images in social situations, AND we make magnificent music? Reveal hidden contents And why aren't we ruling the world? Reveal hidden contents Oh that's right, we're too scared and uninterested. Edited November 22, 2010 by wahrk Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide wahrk's signature Hide all signatures website soundcloud facebook patreonnew wahrk music threadKarakasa Music Aleph9 DEFUNKT TX Chip Quote abusivegeorge | WAHRK STRANGENESS AND CHARM Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/61619-revenge-of-the-introvert/#findComment-1461478 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest fiznuthian Posted November 22, 2010 Report Share Posted November 22, 2010 yeah that's pretty much it. so how about some positives.. well, we could be out banging three broads at once and leading community action, but we've got books to finish and idms to make. think i'll stay home, sounds fun. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/61619-revenge-of-the-introvert/#findComment-1461497 Share on other sites More sharing options...
wahrk Posted November 22, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 22, 2010 Books and idms do sound better than three broads and leading community action though. I mean, three broads are good and all, but a good book? That's like mind sex, which is way better than regular sex. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide wahrk's signature Hide all signatures website soundcloud facebook patreonnew wahrk music threadKarakasa Music Aleph9 DEFUNKT TX Chip Quote abusivegeorge | WAHRK STRANGENESS AND CHARM Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/61619-revenge-of-the-introvert/#findComment-1461499 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Blanket Fort Collapse Posted November 22, 2010 Report Share Posted November 22, 2010 Your opinion might change after someone finally buys you a prostitute. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/61619-revenge-of-the-introvert/#findComment-1461522 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Al Hounos Posted November 22, 2010 Report Share Posted November 22, 2010 (edited) I'd guess that half of WATMM's self-described 'introverts' are not introverts at all, but are using the classification to comfort themselves about being shy and socially awkward. Reveal hidden contents I know because I used to be one of them. Edited November 22, 2010 by Al Hounos Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/61619-revenge-of-the-introvert/#findComment-1461528 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest the anonymous forumite Posted November 22, 2010 Report Share Posted November 22, 2010 On 11/22/2010 at 5:14 AM, GORDO said: read this a while ago about how to treat us :P : http://www.jonathanrauch.com/jrauch_articles/caring_for_your_introvert/ and this: Why is it that us introverts are treated like handicapped people ? These advices are just so condenscending. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/61619-revenge-of-the-introvert/#findComment-1461529 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest disparaissant Posted November 22, 2010 Report Share Posted November 22, 2010 i'm an extrovert with extreme social anxiety. i'll be the life of the party, if i know everyone at the party. otherwise i'll be in the corner hyperventilating. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/61619-revenge-of-the-introvert/#findComment-1461571 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Backson Posted November 22, 2010 Report Share Posted November 22, 2010 On 11/22/2010 at 6:08 AM, remy marathe said: most of the things introverts supposedly demand are just natural ways that all people should be treated. I agree with this strongly. I intentionally take time to formulate my conversations, don't speak when I don't see it relevant or necessary, don't go out regularly if I don't like the venue or the people 100% and so forth. I don't think that makes me "special", its just me deciding how I'd prefer to interact with people and then following through with it. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/61619-revenge-of-the-introvert/#findComment-1461580 Share on other sites More sharing options...
marf Posted November 22, 2010 Report Share Posted November 22, 2010 (edited) On 11/22/2010 at 7:05 AM, fiznuthian said: well, we could be out banging three broads at once and leading community action, but we've got books to finish and idms to make. you scarily summed up my life in one sentence. lol im an introvert on facebook now. I deleted about 90 people last night. I have like 50 friends now all from college in the mid 90's Edited November 22, 2010 by marf Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/61619-revenge-of-the-introvert/#findComment-1461595 Share on other sites More sharing options...
marf Posted November 22, 2010 Report Share Posted November 22, 2010 I blame the assburgers Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/61619-revenge-of-the-introvert/#findComment-1461601 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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