Com Truise remixes Twin Shadow

  On 5/8/2011 at 8:05 PM, xxx said:

Twin Shadow is black (?) Anyway, I know this isn't about Twin Shadow anymore but jesus---there is "decade worship" shit out there but I disagree that Com Truise is among it. I find it fascinating that after almost a year, I still see "won't listen to him because of that name" or "can't stand that 80's sound". For as "counterculture" as WATMM purports to be, people can get very adolescent and join mob mentalities in threads but it is laughably inconsistent. Go to a Com Truise thread and you will see "this iz awsum!!", come to this one and a merry bandwagon rolls along. There is more than a little hypocrisy when people shit themselves over VHS Head yet deride Com Truise. It's pointless to get into the merits because this thread is not for listening to either music or reason. Whatevs though--I'm happy to have found this music and everyone else can do the tangential 14 year old bawww-shuffle

Not trying to hate on Com Truise here, but, it's not hypocritical to think VHS Head is more musically skilled than Com. I listen to VHS because he offers me something new and old, to me Com is just stuff I've already heard in B movies. There production is so much different too...

i'm gonna try and articulate my opinion on this thread, and i'm probably gonna either sound like an elitist cunt myself (as i usually do) or end up making no sense. or both.

i find it quite the lol that there is a group of watmmers here that are saying things like "the 80s had a lot of shit music" and referring to the "gay ass sound of the 80s" (however it be defined).

listening to a mitch murder track just now, it made me realise something. the 80s was probably the first time that it was 'affordable' for people to get hold of synthesizers and tinker around with them at home, or be able to acquire enough gear to actually be able to make music and be lucky enough to do the soundtrack for a small B-movie or something. these were people who were probably like a lot of watmmers who make music here today - people who had a love of music, and were fascinated by the opportunity allowed to them by the increasingly affordable technology. yes, there may have been some shit out there. just like there is inevitably some shit being made by watmmers (talking primarily about myself here), but there are also a lot of gems out there. regardless of whether you think the music is bad or good these musicians, in my opinion, are like the forerunners to the current crop of 'bedroom musicians'. this is my statement on the respect i have for music like this.

moving onto the merits of why someone might actually get a boner of music like this - i myself was born in 1983. so i'm old enough to have nostalgically biased view on the 80s. i will be the first to admit that probably the main reason why i love sounds and films and other stuff from the 80s is due to the fact that it personally reminds me of a time where i didn't have to worry about something serious. my worries at that age were "am i still gonna get cake after dinner if i don't eat the peas?". very different to my worries during the 90s and most certainly worlds away from my worries today. i long to be 6 years old again. music like this, is meek comfort to a person who is growing more and more disillusioned as time goes by.

i totally get what people are saying about having a derisive opinion about people who are worshipping an era or genre when they were too young to understand it and still don't understand it. but i don't agree that comparing original rave culture to today's 'rave' culture is directly analogous to music that takes a nostalgic look back at the 80s. at least not in the case of Com Truise. i think he genuinely has a love for the 80s in a similar sense to how i do. most likely even more so.

does any of that make sense? i don't know. just trying to explain to the people here who obviously have a different opinion to me, what i feel about all this. hopefully i've made a little bit of sense

  On 5/8/2011 at 8:05 PM, xxx said:

  On 5/8/2011 at 6:31 PM, Candiru said:

  On 5/7/2011 at 6:02 AM, jules said:

I do not appreciate the super gay synthesizer cheese ball shit...

 

This. With a couple exceptions like Dam Funk, I think because black people can make literally anything cool

Twin Shadow is black (?)

 

No no, haha not what I meant. I'm saying I really do not prefer a great deal of the retro trend we're talking about here, but some people can make music that straight up rocks my socks no matter what type of sound it is. Dam Funk is one, Oneohtrix Point Never is another, but overall it's just not a fixation for me like it is for so many of these artists. There's just such an abundance of this specific sound, I think a lot of people get impatient with this trend when they see most of it as a novelty. But no biggie I just ignore it.

A select few really do it for me, but I don't like this style enough to listen to all of it.

Dan C - fair enough, important to make the difference between select appreciation and blind worship I think, which you did nicely. Husekr Du is still mile better than Jan Hammer though ;)

Oscillik - yes it definitely was the first time synthesizers were "affordable" - the DX7 and the M1 (admittedly late 80s for the M1) were classics of the day. However there was good use of the home synthesis and then the cheeseball synth use. That leads to XXX's point - why not criticise VHS Head? To me it is all about the tonal palette on display - if the 80s were all Howard Jones, how awful would that be...

As an aside - I don't understand the longing to be a child again - to have no autonomy? no real freedom? yeah sure you had no real worries, but you had no choice in the matter. I would never willingly give up my ability to choose how to live my life.

  On 5/9/2011 at 3:06 AM, chenGOD said:

Oscillik - yes it definitely was the first time synthesizers were "affordable" - the DX7 and the M1 (admittedly late 80s for the M1) were classics of the day. However there was good use of the home synthesis and then the cheeseball synth use. That leads to XXX's point - why not criticise VHS Head? To me it is all about the tonal palette on display - if the 80s were all Howard Jones, how awful would that be...

 

 

As an aside - I don't understand the longing to be a child again - to have no autonomy? no real freedom? yeah sure you had no real worries, but you had no choice in the matter. I would never willingly give up my ability to choose how to live my life.

i do see your point about if the 80s was all Howard Jones...

as for wanting to be a kid again, it's personal preference again really. at the end of the day, it probably shows that i am a weak person, unable to cope with my life as it is and how it is going to be. you're obviously a person who can deal with stuff, which is very admirable. but more and more these days, i find myself not wanting to deal with the realities of being an adult. and 'freedom' is a nicely subjective phenomenon anyway. ignorance is bliss. i'd have been Cypher.

anyways. sorry everyone for derailing the thread.

20 foot boner for this remix.

  On 5/9/2011 at 3:41 AM, oscillik said:

  On 5/9/2011 at 3:06 AM, chenGOD said:

Oscillik - yes it definitely was the first time synthesizers were "affordable" - the DX7 and the M1 (admittedly late 80s for the M1) were classics of the day. However there was good use of the home synthesis and then the cheeseball synth use. That leads to XXX's point - why not criticise VHS Head? To me it is all about the tonal palette on display - if the 80s were all Howard Jones, how awful would that be...

 

 

As an aside - I don't understand the longing to be a child again - to have no autonomy? no real freedom? yeah sure you had no real worries, but you had no choice in the matter. I would never willingly give up my ability to choose how to live my life.

i do see your point about if the 80s was all Howard Jones...

 

as for wanting to be a kid again, it's personal preference again really. at the end of the day, it probably shows that i am a weak person, unable to cope with my life as it is and how it is going to be. you're obviously a person who can deal with stuff, which is very admirable. but more and more these days, i find myself not wanting to deal with the realities of being an adult. and 'freedom' is a nicely subjective phenomenon anyway. ignorance is bliss. i'd have been Cypher.

 

anyways. sorry everyone for derailing the thread.

yo. i was just reflecting on how one time I told you to 'man up' in a thread. i wanted to apologize for that. even if it didn't have any effect, stuff like that has an effect on the subconscious of the whole landscape, almost.

so yeah man, if you are having trouble, sorry. the reason i remembered that 'man up' statement is because i've been realizing my own issues lately. massive social disorder problems, paranoia and the usual. and also i sort of realized that i've been treating the internet like a place that is entirely fake.

so the forums i would treat them like they weren't real and the people were sort of... imaginary. or something. i couldn't connect the dots.

you always have time to make new decisions and shit by the way. i want to be a kid badly and i think about it often. it isn't the way life works however. i recently had what in my mind was a near death experience and while nothing is really solved, i am beginning to take the 'religious' options a bit more seriously. consider going on a mission trip or something. volunteering.

that's all i've got right now.

i'm gonna respond in a PM, i feel like i've already derailed this thread way too much...sorry everyone

i do not like twin shadow as much as autre ne veut.

you haters, with your pompous attitude, you don't even realize how frustrated you sound do you?

the music doesn't suck, YOUR LIFE sucks around the music