Anonymous and others start leaking

  On 12/12/2010 at 4:42 PM, Smettingham Rutherford IV said:

wait...as far as i can tell we only have less than 1 percent of the leaked docs.

 

 

isn't everyone saying they are holding the best for last?

The Guardian are asking for suggestions of things to look for, which implies that they have finished looking in all the obvious places. So yeah, I think we've seen the best of it.

The big story here is not the content of the leaks, its the fact that Governments either have to accept things like this happening from now on, or else try and do their business under the crippling burden of super-secure communications. And that has been Assange's Big Idea from the start: Governments either have to accept more transparency or else lose most of the benefits of the information revolution.

This is a major chapter in the history of the internet, make no mistake. This will affect how people think about internet legislation, ideas, software and communications for many years to come.

yes, times are great! we've still seen only a percentage of the leaks and after that, the banking industry will be confronted with their own criminal bullcrap. times are changing for the better.

/hopeful

  On 12/12/2010 at 4:42 PM, Smettingham Rutherford IV said:

also just got a email from our university saying looking at the docs might impede our future careers.

This is incredible.

It's not the leaks that surprise me the most, some of the reactions are truly out of this world.

  On 12/12/2010 at 6:25 PM, Ego said:

  On 12/12/2010 at 4:42 PM, Smettingham Rutherford IV said:

also just got a email from our university saying looking at the docs might impede our future careers.

 

This is incredible.

 

It's not the leaks that surprise me the most, some of the reactions are truly out of this world.

it is amazing. luckily ive avoided the problem, which is using the campus internet to look at it...which giv es me the impression that the government will cut funding if it happens (im at a public university)

I was under the impression (and I might be wrong, this might be totally unfounded), that they were saying anyone that has looked or even discussed wikileaks can be charged with aiding espionage/something similar?

if that's true it has massive implications for society.

  On 12/12/2010 at 6:59 PM, Smettingham Rutherford IV said:

  On 12/12/2010 at 6:25 PM, Ego said:

  On 12/12/2010 at 4:42 PM, Smettingham Rutherford IV said:

also just got a email from our university saying looking at the docs might impede our future careers.

 

This is incredible.

 

It's not the leaks that surprise me the most, some of the reactions are truly out of this world.

 

 

it is amazing. luckily ive avoided the problem, which is using the campus internet to look at it...which giv es me the impression that the government will cut funding if it happens (im at a public university)

 

I was under the impression (and I might be wrong, this might be totally unfounded), that they were saying anyone that has looked or even discussed wikileaks can be charged with aiding espionage/something similar?

 

if that's true it has massive implications for society.

Fucking LOL

  On 12/12/2010 at 7:02 PM, azatoth said:

  On 12/12/2010 at 6:59 PM, Smettingham Rutherford IV said:

  On 12/12/2010 at 6:25 PM, Ego said:

  On 12/12/2010 at 4:42 PM, Smettingham Rutherford IV said:

also just got a email from our university saying looking at the docs might impede our future careers.

 

This is incredible.

 

It's not the leaks that surprise me the most, some of the reactions are truly out of this world.

 

 

it is amazing. luckily ive avoided the problem, which is using the campus internet to look at it...which giv es me the impression that the government will cut funding if it happens (im at a public university)

 

I was under the impression (and I might be wrong, this might be totally unfounded), that they were saying anyone that has looked or even discussed wikileaks can be charged with aiding espionage/something similar?

 

if that's true it has massive implications for society.

 

Fucking LOL

oh nos...what did I say?

heres the link to the whole espionage act:

My link

Not what you said, but the whole thing that reading these leaks would cause some real world consequences to you. This in a land who is all about freedom of speech and spreading democracy around the world. That's some totalitarian bullshit right there. The US is just an awful sham.

  On 12/12/2010 at 4:02 PM, Squee said:

So, this is getting quite boring, yeah? This was supposed to be about horrible truths and instead people are talking about VPNs?

lol this

too much cowardish nerdtalk itt

yawn

apparently the us are looking to develop new laws which makes unauthorized reading of (leaked) confidential documents illegal. when the new laws are implemented, they are supposed to hold for the past as well. diplomats in europe confirm that even us politicians/diplomats are getting paranoid with respect to reading the original cables. sick

  On 12/12/2010 at 7:16 PM, goDel said:

apparently the us are looking to develop new laws which makes unauthorized reading of (leaked) confidential documents illegal. when the new laws are implemented, they are supposed to hold for the past as well. diplomats in europe confirm that even us politicians/diplomats are getting paranoid with respect to reading the original cables. sick

Source ? That would be so coward of the US...

you can't make new laws apply to the past. at least not in any decent legal system, doesn't your constitution say this?

and a law like that shouldn't pass anyway, too many gray areas to be actually enforceable.

  On 12/12/2010 at 7:23 PM, GORDO said:

you can't make new laws apply to the past. at least not in any decent legal system, doesn't your constitution say this?

 

and a law like that shouldn't pass anyway, too many gray areas to be actually enforceable.

isn't that the idea though?

not to invoke Godwin's law, but from a structuralist standpoint, Hitler's government was founded on those principles....no set laws in a strict constitutional sense, everything could be interpreted as the officials immediately in charge saw fit...it was at least temporarily incredibly effective.

  On 12/12/2010 at 4:42 PM, Smettingham Rutherford IV said:

also just got a email from our university saying looking at the docs might impede our future careers.

please post this!

Same here.

holy!

[youtubehd]yimCDbBuDGU[/youtubehd]

that is one of the sweetest bunkers I have ever seen

thats their web hosts server bunker lol

http://360.fotograf.nu/bahnhof/

All seem OK to me. When were they down?

Btw: Julian Assange's OK Cupid profile, untouched since 2007:

http://www.okcupid.com/profile/HarryHarrison

  On 12/12/2010 at 11:45 PM, zazen said:

All seem OK to me. When were they down?

 

Btw: Julian Assange's OK Cupid profile, untouched since 2007:

 

http://www.okcupid.com/profile/HarryHarrison

its the aphex twins!!

  On 12/12/2010 at 11:45 PM, zazen said:

Btw: Julian Assange's OK Cupid profile, untouched since 2007:

 

http://www.okcupid.com/profile/HarryHarrison

lol

he's a 93% match for me

too bad i don't swing that way

Various European Amazon sites were down for 45 minutes

http://eu.techcrunch.com/2010/12/12/all-european-amazon-sites-taken-offline-in-mystery-outage/

Not clear whether it was Anonymous or not

http://thenextweb.com/uk/2010/12/12/amazon-co-uk-and-de-are-down-is-anonymous-to-blame/

But this guy says it was

http://twitter.com/shopirel/statuses/14081183805603840

This guy says it wasnt

Oh, and Gawker just been hit - all the admin passwords got released onto the net apparently

http://twitter.com/adrianchen

http://gawker.com/5712615/commenting-accounts-compromised-++-change-your-passwords

Burn them to the ground!

  On 12/12/2010 at 6:59 PM, Smettingham Rutherford IV said:

  On 12/12/2010 at 6:25 PM, Ego said:

  On 12/12/2010 at 4:42 PM, Smettingham Rutherford IV said:

also just got a email from our university saying looking at the docs might impede our future careers.

 

This is incredible.

 

It's not the leaks that surprise me the most, some of the reactions are truly out of this world.

 

 

it is amazing. luckily ive avoided the problem, which is using the campus internet to look at it...which giv es me the impression that the government will cut funding if it happens (im at a public university)

 

I was under the impression (and I might be wrong, this might be totally unfounded), that they were saying anyone that has looked or even discussed wikileaks can be charged with aiding espionage/something similar?

 

if that's true it has massive implications for society.

wow that's pretty fucking major, using no actual technical legalese to explain why to you but instead alluding via the chilling effect of veiled threats of federal arrest. pretty ominous and creepy as hell

  On 12/12/2010 at 6:59 PM, Smettingham Rutherford IV said:

  On 12/12/2010 at 6:25 PM, Ego said:

  On 12/12/2010 at 4:42 PM, Smettingham Rutherford IV said:

also just got a email from our university saying looking at the docs might impede our future careers.

 

This is incredible.

 

It's not the leaks that surprise me the most, some of the reactions are truly out of this world.

 

 

it is amazing. luckily ive avoided the problem, which is using the campus internet to look at it...which giv es me the impression that the government will cut funding if it happens (im at a public university)

 

I was under the impression (and I might be wrong, this might be totally unfounded), that they were saying anyone that has looked or even discussed wikileaks can be charged with aiding espionage/something similar?

 

if that's true it has massive implications for society.

What do you study?