elusive4 Posted January 24, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 24, 2011 On 1/24/2011 at 12:56 AM, chimera slot mom said: my favourite listening environment is the bottom of a stairwell, music coming out of someone's cellphone and a few beers to go. all this stuff is ridiculously subjective and our ears are very capable of adjusting to our environment. not saying your wood thingie doesn't look cool but reading your posts gives me a headache. no amount of bringing up comb filtering and math as an argument justifies a shitty-ass attitude. like i need your fucking approval to put dr schroeder's work into practice and no, it's not subjective - it's mathematically measurable it's only ridiculously subjective if youre trying to discuss the topic and dont have a fuking clue Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/62408-2d-qrd-diffuser-make/page/4/#findComment-1501985 Share on other sites More sharing options...
elusive4 Posted January 24, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 24, 2011 here's next: the 1d's should be lighter and a bit easier to make, but getting the fins to stay perpendicular will take some fancy woodglue'n'holdin work keep yall posted, this plaec is easier to troll than xltronic so ill keep coming back for more Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/62408-2d-qrd-diffuser-make/page/4/#findComment-1502002 Share on other sites More sharing options...
elusive4 Posted January 24, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 24, 2011 gardening was never this fun p.s. this site is the fucking bomb http://www.falstad.com/ripple/ Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/62408-2d-qrd-diffuser-make/page/4/#findComment-1502013 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaini Posted January 24, 2011 Report Share Posted January 24, 2011 are my eyes playing tricks on me or are you listening to something in 128kbps mp3? oh right, you're "trolling" :sup: Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide kaini's signature Hide all signatures On 5/7/2013 at 11:06 PM, ambermonk said: I know IDM can be extreme On 6/3/2017 at 11:50 PM, ladalaika said: this sounds like an airplane landing on a minefield Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/62408-2d-qrd-diffuser-make/page/4/#findComment-1502016 Share on other sites More sharing options...
elusive4 Posted January 24, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 24, 2011 On 1/24/2011 at 2:25 AM, kaini said: are my eyes playing tricks on me or are you listening to something in 128kbps mp3? oh right, you're "trolling" :sup: +10 - grace, great great album can only find in vbr, tho - Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/62408-2d-qrd-diffuser-make/page/4/#findComment-1502020 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaini Posted January 24, 2011 Report Share Posted January 24, 2011 all further bitrate/audiophile nazi opinions expressed by you are now invalid. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide kaini's signature Hide all signatures On 5/7/2013 at 11:06 PM, ambermonk said: I know IDM can be extreme On 6/3/2017 at 11:50 PM, ladalaika said: this sounds like an airplane landing on a minefield Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/62408-2d-qrd-diffuser-make/page/4/#findComment-1502047 Share on other sites More sharing options...
elusive4 Posted January 24, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 24, 2011 On 1/24/2011 at 3:06 AM, kaini said: all further bitrate/audiophile nazi opinions expressed by you are now invalid. you better start backing up your post with direct quotes who on earth would purchase music (digitally) with their hard earned dollars that is a watered down version of the original i dont care if i cant hear a difference - i just want to know that there isn't a difference, period. and like mp3 handles ryoji ikeda well .... pssh. next. and shit like diffusers or absorption isn't just for listening. try recording drums in a bedroom. see how good that sounds, m8 not sure how you can remotely relate anything to fix room issues as being audiophile enjoy your -30dB nulls at 100hz, mag. - i prefer to hear the full spectrum Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/62408-2d-qrd-diffuser-make/page/4/#findComment-1502049 Share on other sites More sharing options...
elusive4 Posted January 24, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 24, 2011 nice rolling design qrds at SWS http://www.gearslutz.com/board/so-much-gear-so-little-time/431360-diffusor-baffles-skywalker-sound.html Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/62408-2d-qrd-diffuser-make/page/4/#findComment-1502053 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest skibby Posted September 18, 2013 Report Share Posted September 18, 2013 *UPDATE* even if one had anechoic chamber for a living room, and the most perfect speakers in the world... each recording will sound different, and will definitely not sound the way the artist and her engineers intended. because the artists/engineers didnt make their stuff in the same studios, and they didnt mix in anechoic chambers, and theres no such thing as perfect speakers. they all used different gear. and if you had perfect speakers in a perfect comb-free room, well, you'd get diminishing returns because you'd hear every flaw. unless of course you're not a musician or an engineer, in which case you wouldn't notice those details anyway. happy belated new years 2012 and 2013. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/62408-2d-qrd-diffuser-make/page/4/#findComment-2064249 Share on other sites More sharing options...
essines Posted September 18, 2013 Report Share Posted September 18, 2013 i love you. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide essines's signature Hide all signatures On 8/19/2011 at 11:51 PM, Luke Fucking Hazard said: Essines has, and always will remind me of MacReady. Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/62408-2d-qrd-diffuser-make/page/4/#findComment-2064259 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh Mughnus Posted September 18, 2013 Report Share Posted September 18, 2013 On 9/18/2013 at 3:14 AM, skibby said: *UPDATE* even if one had anechoic chamber for a living room, and the most perfect speakers in the world... each recording will sound different, and will definitely not sound the way the artist and her engineers intended. because the artists/engineers didnt make their stuff in the same studios, and they didnt mix in anechoic chambers, and theres no such thing as perfect speakers. they all used different gear. and if you had perfect speakers in a perfect comb-free room, well, you'd get diminishing returns because you'd hear every flaw. unless of course you're not a musician or an engineer, in which case you wouldn't notice those details anyway. happy belated new years 2012 and 2013. are you hating on my anechoic chamber and perfect speaker setup? the nerve! lol Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Hugh Mughnus's signature Hide all signatures On 1/19/2020 at 5:27 PM, Richie Sombrero said: Nah, you're a wee child who can't wait for official release. Embarrassing. Shove your privilege. On 9/2/2014 at 12:37 AM, Ivan Ooze said: don't be a cockroach prolapsing nun bulkV Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/62408-2d-qrd-diffuser-make/page/4/#findComment-2064260 Share on other sites More sharing options...
essines Posted September 18, 2013 Report Share Posted September 18, 2013 NULLS Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide essines's signature Hide all signatures On 8/19/2011 at 11:51 PM, Luke Fucking Hazard said: Essines has, and always will remind me of MacReady. Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/62408-2d-qrd-diffuser-make/page/4/#findComment-2064264 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh Mughnus Posted September 18, 2013 Report Share Posted September 18, 2013 On 9/18/2013 at 4:02 AM, usagi said: how is diffuser formed how elusive get pragnent isn't diffuser hair spray bottle? On 9/18/2013 at 4:08 AM, essines said: NULLS VOIDS Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Hugh Mughnus's signature Hide all signatures On 1/19/2020 at 5:27 PM, Richie Sombrero said: Nah, you're a wee child who can't wait for official release. Embarrassing. Shove your privilege. On 9/2/2014 at 12:37 AM, Ivan Ooze said: don't be a cockroach prolapsing nun bulkV Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/62408-2d-qrd-diffuser-make/page/4/#findComment-2064284 Share on other sites More sharing options...
manmower Posted September 18, 2013 Report Share Posted September 18, 2013 You're all terrible people and you deserve each and every one of your -30dB nulls at 100hz. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/62408-2d-qrd-diffuser-make/page/4/#findComment-2064287 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh Mughnus Posted September 18, 2013 Report Share Posted September 18, 2013 On 9/18/2013 at 6:24 AM, manmower said: You're all terrible people and you deserve each and every one of your -30dB nulls at 100hz. Im am disappointe coffer Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Hugh Mughnus's signature Hide all signatures On 1/19/2020 at 5:27 PM, Richie Sombrero said: Nah, you're a wee child who can't wait for official release. Embarrassing. Shove your privilege. On 9/2/2014 at 12:37 AM, Ivan Ooze said: don't be a cockroach prolapsing nun bulkV Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/62408-2d-qrd-diffuser-make/page/4/#findComment-2064289 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Atom Dowry Firth Posted September 18, 2013 Report Share Posted September 18, 2013 lol this thread I kinda want to build one now though Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/62408-2d-qrd-diffuser-make/page/4/#findComment-2064380 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silent Member Posted September 18, 2013 Report Share Posted September 18, 2013 yeah, sometimes crazy people make pretty things. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Silent Member's signature Hide all signatures Some songs I made with my fingers and electronics. In the process of making some more. Hopefully. Reveal hidden contents Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/62408-2d-qrd-diffuser-make/page/4/#findComment-2064382 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silent Member Posted September 18, 2013 Report Share Posted September 18, 2013 lol Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Silent Member's signature Hide all signatures Some songs I made with my fingers and electronics. In the process of making some more. Hopefully. Reveal hidden contents Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/62408-2d-qrd-diffuser-make/page/4/#findComment-2064385 Share on other sites More sharing options...
elusive4 Posted September 18, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 18, 2013 On 9/18/2013 at 3:14 AM, skibby said: *UPDATE* even if one had anechoic chamber for a living room, and the most perfect speakers in the world... anechoic chambers give false imaging cues (unless what was recorded was also done so in an anechocic chamber); so no, anechoic chamber is not a wanted means of accomplishment for reproduction On 9/18/2013 at 3:14 AM, skibby said: each recording will sound different, and will definitely not sound the way the artist and her engineers intended. depends on the requirements for the room. eg, reproduction with regards to accuracy (localization, iamging, intelligibility) ... the early arriivng high-gain indirect signals need to be identified and attenuated to minimize the room's inherent destructive properties (in the time-domain). this is with respect to reproduction so it is irrelevant to what is recorded. although LEDE designs were great as the tracking room`s inter signal delay gap was 2-5ms shorter than that of the control room, allowing one to hear the contributions of the recoridng room prior to that of the control room. also, you can have an anechoic (effectively) speaker/room response while not inducing an anechoic user/room response. source/receiver positions (perspectives) are key. non-environment rooms provide this. the speakers "see" an anechoic room, but the user position does not. On 9/18/2013 at 3:14 AM, skibby said: because the artists/engineers didnt make their stuff in the same studios, and they didnt mix in anechoic chambers, and theres no such thing as perfect speakers. not sure how any of these statements are relevant. On 9/18/2013 at 3:14 AM, skibby said: and if you had perfect speakers in a perfect comb-free room, well, you'd get diminishing returns because you'd hear every flaw. comb-filters dont exist in the real world. 3d spatial polar lobing does - and the comb-filtering is merely an interference pattern manifested within the freq response. and you're not looking to have a "comb-free room" (not everyone)... reflectino phase gratings such as those based on quad residue (QRD) or primitive root (PRD) numbre theory actually offer *more reflections which provides *more "comb-filtering" - not less. the goal is to get the comb-filtering more closely spaced together and dense (vs the destructive 'sparse' comb-filtering). they allow one to break up a sparse specular reflection into many reflections dispersed spatially and temporally. this also provides added benefit of "mixing" the reflection to emulate that of which naturally happens in larger spaces (eg, a reverberant sound-field). the varying depths of the wells provide phase shifts which in turn form an interference pattern that has equal energy lobes inthe diffraction directions. http://www.rpginc.com/docs\Technology\Presentations\MRS%20Online.pdf Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/62408-2d-qrd-diffuser-make/page/4/#findComment-2064397 Share on other sites More sharing options...
elusive4 Posted September 18, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 18, 2013 On 9/18/2013 at 3:14 AM, skibby said: *UPDATE* even if one had anechoic chamber for a living room, and the most perfect speakers in the world... blackbird C is one of the most reflection rich rooms on the planet, and yet the response is effectively anechoic. who knew wood could be so absorptive (edge diffraction losses, viscous and 1/4wave resonance losses, etc). you're using highly reflective objects to function as "absorbers", to reduce the gain of the indirect signasl below that of human detection threshold (keying for locaization, iamging, etc) - while also providing an incredible dense (first-order bounce) sound-field. why do people use lamp shades? Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/62408-2d-qrd-diffuser-make/page/4/#findComment-2064399 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcbpete Posted September 18, 2013 Report Share Posted September 18, 2013 On 9/18/2013 at 2:22 PM, elusive4 said: why do people use lamp shades?Cos they look pretty Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide all signatures I haven't eaten a Wagon Wheel since 07/11/07... ilovecubus.co.uk - 25ml of mp3 taken twice daily. Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/62408-2d-qrd-diffuser-make/page/4/#findComment-2064403 Share on other sites More sharing options...
elusive4 Posted September 19, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 19, 2013 http://www.scribd.com/doc/49539019/Acoustic-Absorbers-and-Diffusers ^ you can download in full (pdf) Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/62408-2d-qrd-diffuser-make/page/4/#findComment-2064635 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcbpete Posted September 19, 2013 Report Share Posted September 19, 2013 On 9/19/2013 at 12:33 AM, elusive4 said: http://www.scribd.com/doc/49539019/Acoustic-Absorbers-and-Diffusers ^ you can download in full (pdf) Are there many lamp shade designs in it ? Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide all signatures I haven't eaten a Wagon Wheel since 07/11/07... ilovecubus.co.uk - 25ml of mp3 taken twice daily. Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/62408-2d-qrd-diffuser-make/page/4/#findComment-2064640 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest Adam Posted September 26, 2013 Report Share Posted September 26, 2013 *3d spatial polar lobing null Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/62408-2d-qrd-diffuser-make/page/4/#findComment-2067358 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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