Dave Smith/Roger Linn Tempest

heh

i had a hard time deciding which thread to put this in

lol @ picture.

i'm thinking the Linndrum 2 coming out later this year is going to be more what people were hoping for.

no analog oscillators but an all digital machine based more on sampling / mpc-like features. and i bet it will cost only a half of what the Tempest costs.

I think all of you that are complaining about no sampling are really missing the point. It's not a drum machine, but a drum SYNTH. I think it sounds fucking awesome, and I would buy in a second if I could manage it. Fuck sampling, I'll just leave that in the box.

sampling? the mpc has been out for quite a while and has this area licked

the Tempest is a performance instrument for real time synth manipulation kinda like the Machinedrum but with a deeper real analogue signal path

mix n' match sample bank boppers won't understand this ;-p

  On 1/15/2011 at 12:46 AM, Kcinsu said:

a. roger linn drinks one of my favorite beers.

 

2. i would buy the shit out of this if I had spare money

 

and further more I don't, so I shall pretend I never saw that video.

Yuh I was pretty pleased to see he was both drinking a Laganitas IPA and that he was using a Macbook.

  On 1/17/2011 at 2:18 PM, slightlydrybeans said:

I think all of you that are complaining about no sampling are really missing the point. It's not a drum machine, but a drum SYNTH. I think it sounds fucking awesome, and I would buy in a second if I could manage it. Fuck sampling, I'll just leave that in the box.

  On 1/17/2011 at 3:29 PM, soundwave said:

sampling? the mpc has been out for quite a while and has this area licked

 

the Tempest is a performance instrument for real time synth manipulation kinda like the Machinedrum but with a deeper real analogue signal path

 

mix n' match sample bank boppers won't understand this ;-p

No, it's clearly following the paradigm of a drum machine/groove box/mpc. If it was just a drum synth Roger Linn wouldn't be involved, and it would be in a rack. It has lots of digital samples as well as the analogue synth engine. Analogue synths are good at some drum sounds, rubbish at others. The ability to replace the onboard digital samples with user samples would be very useful and would be as simple to implement at the OS rather than hardware level as Roger Linn has already said, but it's not happening in the first OS. I suspect they're using it to differentiate from a true sampling model.

True sampling rather than just sample import would be useful because it potentially allows a resample function. A six voice analogue/digital synth with sequencer and analogue effects able to resample on the fly as well would be a very powerful tool.

  On 1/17/2011 at 2:18 PM, slightlydrybeans said:

I think all of you that are complaining about no sampling are really missing the point. It's not a drum machine, but a drum SYNTH. I think it sounds fucking awesome, and I would buy in a second if I could manage it. Fuck sampling, I'll just leave that in the box.

well maybe you're forgetting that originally it was supposed to do both in one box. Now Dave smith is going the Korg Electribe route and splitting up each primary function into it's own machine.So for that reason it's a little irritating. Those hoping for a dave smith machine that does both, well ill have to buy 2 new machines now.

  On 1/17/2011 at 7:53 PM, Awepittance said:

  On 1/17/2011 at 2:18 PM, slightlydrybeans said:

I think all of you that are complaining about no sampling are really missing the point. It's not a drum machine, but a drum SYNTH. I think it sounds fucking awesome, and I would buy in a second if I could manage it. Fuck sampling, I'll just leave that in the box.

 

well maybe you're forgetting that originally it was supposed to do both in one box. Now Dave smith is going the Korg Electribe route and splitting up each primary function into it's own machine.So for that reason it's a little irritating. Those hoping for a dave smith machine that does both, well ill have to buy 2 new machines now.

my guess, if they made it do synthesis and sampling it would cost way more money. it would be, a little exaggerating here maybe, but an analog mpc5000 or something. hmmmm

it practically can do sampling though just more in the style of wavetable sampling, it doesnt seem like much of a leap to feature full samples. I was considering buying years ago when i first heard of it but this diminishes my interest if it's now 2 machines instead of 1

  On 1/17/2011 at 7:31 PM, kakapo said:

  On 1/17/2011 at 2:18 PM, slightlydrybeans said:

I think all of you that are complaining about no sampling are really missing the point. It's not a drum machine, but a drum SYNTH. I think it sounds fucking awesome, and I would buy in a second if I could manage it. Fuck sampling, I'll just leave that in the box.

 

  On 1/17/2011 at 3:29 PM, soundwave said:

sampling? the mpc has been out for quite a while and has this area licked

 

the Tempest is a performance instrument for real time synth manipulation kinda like the Machinedrum but with a deeper real analogue signal path

 

mix n' match sample bank boppers won't understand this ;-p

 

No, it's clearly following the paradigm of a drum machine/groove box/mpc. If it was just a drum synth Roger Linn wouldn't be involved, and it would be in a rack. It has lots of digital samples as well as the analogue synth engine. Analogue synths are good at some drum sounds, rubbish at others. The ability to replace the onboard digital samples with user samples would be very useful and would be as simple to implement at the OS rather than hardware level as Roger Linn has already said, but it's not happening in the first OS. I suspect they're using it to differentiate from a true sampling model.

 

True sampling rather than just sample import would be useful because it potentially allows a resample function. A six voice analogue/digital synth with sequencer and analogue effects able to resample on the fly as well would be a very powerful tool.

which is a performance instrument not a studio rack

Honestly this thing just makes me want a Machinedrum even more. And maybe a Poly Evolver.

  On 1/18/2011 at 1:28 PM, soundwave said:

  On 1/17/2011 at 7:31 PM, kakapo said:

  On 1/17/2011 at 2:18 PM, slightlydrybeans said:

I think all of you that are complaining about no sampling are really missing the point. It's not a drum machine, but a drum SYNTH. I think it sounds fucking awesome, and I would buy in a second if I could manage it. Fuck sampling, I'll just leave that in the box.

 

  On 1/17/2011 at 3:29 PM, soundwave said:

sampling? the mpc has been out for quite a while and has this area licked

 

the Tempest is a performance instrument for real time synth manipulation kinda like the Machinedrum but with a deeper real analogue signal path

 

mix n' match sample bank boppers won't understand this ;-p

 

No, it's clearly following the paradigm of a drum machine/groove box/mpc. If it was just a drum synth Roger Linn wouldn't be involved, and it would be in a rack. It has lots of digital samples as well as the analogue synth engine. Analogue synths are good at some drum sounds, rubbish at others. The ability to replace the onboard digital samples with user samples would be very useful and would be as simple to implement at the OS rather than hardware level as Roger Linn has already said, but it's not happening in the first OS. I suspect they're using it to differentiate from a true sampling model.

 

True sampling rather than just sample import would be useful because it potentially allows a resample function. A six voice analogue/digital synth with sequencer and analogue effects able to resample on the fly as well would be a very powerful tool.

 

which is a performance instrument not a studio rack

My first paragraph was addressing slightlydrybeans, the second was addressing yourself. Obviously. I mean it was very clear indeed. I did think about reformatting my post, but then I thought, no, it would be clear to even watmm's lowest common denominator. Clearly not. Thinking you're being a smart arse and adding a faceplam emoticon to the end of your post, while actually displaying the inability to follow a relatively straightforward narrative = minus 1,000,000 watmm points. And I do keep score. Don't worry, you still have more points than maximus mischief.

in this day and age of cheap ram/rom even as an afterthought it should have some way of importing your own sounds in the os/firmware

  On 1/18/2011 at 3:20 PM, kakapo said:

  On 1/18/2011 at 1:28 PM, soundwave said:

  On 1/17/2011 at 7:31 PM, kakapo said:

  On 1/17/2011 at 2:18 PM, slightlydrybeans said:

I think all of you that are complaining about no sampling are really missing the point. It's not a drum machine, but a drum SYNTH. I think it sounds fucking awesome, and I would buy in a second if I could manage it. Fuck sampling, I'll just leave that in the box.

 

  On 1/17/2011 at 3:29 PM, soundwave said:

sampling? the mpc has been out for quite a while and has this area licked

 

the Tempest is a performance instrument for real time synth manipulation kinda like the Machinedrum but with a deeper real analogue signal path

 

mix n' match sample bank boppers won't understand this ;-p

 

No, it's clearly following the paradigm of a drum machine/groove box/mpc. If it was just a drum synth Roger Linn wouldn't be involved, and it would be in a rack. It has lots of digital samples as well as the analogue synth engine. Analogue synths are good at some drum sounds, rubbish at others. The ability to replace the onboard digital samples with user samples would be very useful and would be as simple to implement at the OS rather than hardware level as Roger Linn has already said, but it's not happening in the first OS. I suspect they're using it to differentiate from a true sampling model.

 

True sampling rather than just sample import would be useful because it potentially allows a resample function. A six voice analogue/digital synth with sequencer and analogue effects able to resample on the fly as well would be a very powerful tool.

 

which is a performance instrument not a studio rack

 

My first paragraph was addressing slightlydrybeans, the second was addressing yourself. Obviously. I mean it was very clear indeed. I did think about reformatting my post, but then I thought, no, it would be clear to even watmm's lowest common denominator. Clearly not. Thinking you're being a smart arse and adding a faceplam emoticon to the end of your post, while actually displaying the inability to follow a relatively straightforward narrative = minus 1,000,000 watmm points. And I do keep score. Don't worry, you still have more points than maximus mischief.

sounds meh, not impressed by the demo

2k lol

but i use cheap samples so my opinion is worthless lol

I biked in to be the only dissenting voice but this guy ^^^ beat me to it.

I'm totally underwhelmed by the demo video. It's like a Machinedrum, only it seems less powerful. The 'analog' aspect is really for the birds...

  On 1/19/2011 at 3:08 PM, acidphakist said:

I biked in to be the only dissenting voice but this guy ^^^ beat me to it.

 

I'm totally underwhelmed by the demo video. It's like a Machinedrum, only it seems less powerful. The 'analog' aspect is really for the birds...

Nice avatar.

  On 1/19/2011 at 10:32 PM, wake said:

  On 1/19/2011 at 3:08 PM, acidphakist said:

I biked in to be the only dissenting voice but this guy ^^^ beat me to it.

 

I'm totally underwhelmed by the demo video. It's like a Machinedrum, only it seems less powerful. The 'analog' aspect is really for the birds...

Nice avatar.

Thanks. It's hard capturing vsts in the dark like that.

looks preety uselss for ndc music to me

thumbs up for

also for hopefully getting a cheaper machinedrum on ebay

soundwise any real analogue drum sound from the tempest will pee pee on the machindrums efforts (kick drum aside)

i tried to make a tr808 kit on my old machinedrum next to the real thing, i got close but no cigar

i just hope the sequencer on the tempest is upto scratch with the elektrons

hmmmmmmm well maybe u just should try to make music not sounds ????

  On 1/20/2011 at 6:55 PM, sup said:

hmmmmmmm well maybe u just should try to make music not sounds ????

lol

  On 1/20/2011 at 6:00 PM, soundwave said:

soundwise any real analogue drum sound from the tempest will pee pee on the machindrums efforts (kick drum aside)

 

i tried to make a tr808 kit on my old machinedrum next to the real thing, i got close but no cigar

 

i just hope the sequencer on the tempest is upto scratch with the elektrons

I tried, as well...and just decided to use my 808 for 808.

I would like to see the Tempest sound like an 808. I'll bet it fails just as hard.

  On 1/20/2011 at 6:55 PM, sup said:

hmmmmmmm well maybe u just should try to make music not sounds ????

remind me to dig up my idm samplepack cd from computer music