whats the likelihood of fucking up your mind with alcohol and weed?

  On 2/13/2011 at 9:18 PM, karmakramer said:

  On 2/13/2011 at 9:07 PM, sirch said:

  On 2/13/2011 at 8:53 PM, karmakramer said:

  On 2/13/2011 at 8:52 PM, sirch said:

suck it and see

 

u clearly need more drugs

 

u clearly have a side parting

 

i think I feel a poem coming on

i think you're boring

  On 2/13/2011 at 9:11 PM, karmakramer said:

  On 2/13/2011 at 9:01 PM, sirch said:

  On 2/13/2011 at 8:51 PM, karmakramer said:

 

how much crack do you smoke to be homeless and to not feel ill towards the government?

 

and this is another problem with society; the people who make a joke out of everything and don't really care about anything, deep down.

or maybe they do.. and the way they deal with serious issues is to make light of them...... and that way they can feel a bit more comfortable. but, ultimately they're ignoring things by making a joke out of it.

i like to mock stuff when i'm in the mood for it or when i'm drunk.. and i like to wind people up and play them at their own game, too. it's fun if you've nothing better to do..

but not all the time. which seems to me to be one of the problems with this place. people are all the time making a mockery of absolutely everything.

so, i feel for vamous scorcho, if he wasn't taking the piss!

 

knock knock..

who's there? ..no wait, i know this one... America??

  On 2/13/2011 at 9:19 PM, luke viia said:

I smoke weed every day. Somehow I seem to be one of a very small minority that doesn't get all excited about how we need a "revolution" to smoke weed and enjoy ourselves. The ills of the world are not brought on by a lack of pleasure-giving drugs in people's lives. My mind is open about that though, I just need someone to actually convince me that drugs would bring peace. So far I've heard no convincing arguments for this, and I've been talking about it with friends and on message boards for years. Please go ahead and make the case, I'd like to hear why "gangs and cartels would go out of business" or any other utopian dream would come true. The way I see it, there would still be a market for drugs, and gangs and cartels would be mostly replaced by legitimate businesses and corporations mass producing the product. As we all know, corporations can be just as ruthless (if not more) than drug cartels, and they generally have the law on their side. So I vote for decriminalization but not full legality. That way, people would still have to be smart and low-key about the way they use drugs (ie, there wouldn't be crowds of people tripping on LSD at the mall or mcdonalds or in their cars, etc etc), but the penalty for being caught wouldn't be so disproportionate to the crime itself, so people would just hopefully learn to be intelligent and quiet about being inebriated. I also believe public awareness of the real harms of drugs ought to be taught to everyone, even those who don't wish to use them - as opposed to the lame, sparse, selective misinformation we get now. There is almost no way I would ever agree to have something like heroin or methamphetamine become fully legal and accesible to everyone. The only way I could see something like full legalization working in a western country is if it was paired with very rigorous "licensing" to each individual trying to use the drug, ie you would have to take classes on the particular drug you would like to use (and pass those classes with a straight A). That still doesn't fix the issue of people getting a license and just selling to anyone they want, though (like what happens with pharmaceuticals now). It's tricky business. At this point I think it's best to just be smart and private about your use if you'd like to avoid being caught.

dude that's a lot of words and my mind conditioned by USA culture does not have the attention span to deal wiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiithhhhhhhhhh.

i'm going for a spliff and a pizza and a suck on olllllll' Grandaddy's dick.

  On 2/13/2011 at 9:23 PM, luke viia said:

Also I realize I just went on a tangent about many things that were not being discussed in this thread, but the question of legalization that sirch brought up is a subject that can go a lot of ways, and I wanted to share my wider beliefs about the whole issue. And when I say "drug cartels and gangs would be replaced by corporations" I mean that corporations would become the new cartels and gangs; not that cartels and gangs would disappear.

that's better, though, surely?

atm you don't know what you're getting from anybody. in an ideal world, if it was all overseen/regulated/managed....

well, utopia!

but, like i said before, never gonna happen anytime soon because people are people, generally.

this all has a lonnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnng way to go beofre people will REALLY be free.

What do you mean by "really free" though? Freedom from what? Society?

I do not think that a situation in which corporations are the dominant players in the pleasure-drug trade is any better than one in which "criminals" control it. Drug traffickers definitely manage and oversee their trade.

As for the idea that I don't know what I'm getting when I buy illegal drugs, that's just not true. I can buy kits to test whether or not I've received a pure product, and my weed man almost always has strain names for me and sometimes the bags come straight from the medicinal shop. It's not fully legal, but I know what I'm putting in my body, at least to the extent that one can actually know what they're ingesting. I know as much about the quality of the drugs I put into my system as I do about the quality of the foods I eat, and the food I eat is legal, and even has ingredients listed on it... but where did it actually come from?

Also, if one paragraph is too many words for your attention span, I dunno man, you might want to stop smoking weed.

  On 2/13/2011 at 11:34 PM, sirch said:

atm you don't know what you're getting from anybody.

Bullshit.

If you have a good friend that grows who understands the basic physiology behind different cannabanoids as well as you do (if you do, that is, and if you intend to smoke responsibly then you certainly should read up), and a keen eye for discrepancies which is not hard to acquire if you're good friends with someone who grows.

Purchasing psychoactive substances from someone you don't know well enough to trust is a mistake and possibly a grievance against yourself.

EDIT: Way to beat me to this one Luke.

I think you said it better than I did, but yeah, highfive brah

  On 2/13/2011 at 11:26 PM, sirch said:

  On 2/13/2011 at 9:18 PM, karmakramer said:

  On 2/13/2011 at 9:07 PM, sirch said:

  On 2/13/2011 at 8:53 PM, karmakramer said:

  On 2/13/2011 at 8:52 PM, sirch said:

suck it and see

 

u clearly need more drugs

 

u clearly have a side parting

 

i think I feel a poem coming on

 

i think you're boring

 

  On 2/13/2011 at 9:11 PM, karmakramer said:

  On 2/13/2011 at 9:01 PM, sirch said:

  On 2/13/2011 at 8:51 PM, karmakramer said:

 

how much crack do you smoke to be homeless and to not feel ill towards the government?

 

and this is another problem with society; the people who make a joke out of everything and don't really care about anything, deep down.

or maybe they do.. and the way they deal with serious issues is to make light of them...... and that way they can feel a bit more comfortable. but, ultimately they're ignoring things by making a joke out of it.

i like to mock stuff when i'm in the mood for it or when i'm drunk.. and i like to wind people up and play them at their own game, too. it's fun if you've nothing better to do..

but not all the time. which seems to me to be one of the problems with this place. people are all the time making a mockery of absolutely everything.

so, i feel for vamous scorcho, if he wasn't taking the piss!

 

knock knock..

 

who's there? ..no wait, i know this one... America??

knock knock jokes aren't riddles nor are they funny

you lose sir

  On 2/13/2011 at 11:43 PM, luke viia said:

What do you mean by "really free" though? Freedom from what? Society?

 

I do not think that a situation in which corporations are the dominant players in the pleasure-drug trade is any better than one in which "criminals" control it. Drug traffickers definitely manage and oversee their trade.

 

As for the idea that I don't know what I'm getting when I buy illegal drugs, that's just not true. I can buy kits to test whether or not I've received a pure product, and my weed man almost always has strain names for me and sometimes the bags come straight from the medicinal shop. It's not fully legal, but I know what I'm putting in my body, at least to the extent that one can actually know what they're ingesting. I know as much about the quality of the drugs I put into my system as I do about the quality of the foods I eat, and the food I eat is legal, and even has ingredients listed on it... but where did it actually come from?

 

Also, if one paragraph is too many words for your attention span, I dunno man, you might want to stop smoking weed.

i don't smoke weed. used to....

  On 2/13/2011 at 11:43 PM, Al5x said:

  On 2/13/2011 at 11:34 PM, sirch said:

atm you don't know what you're getting from anybody.

 

Bullshit.

 

If you have a good friend that grows who understands the basic physiology behind different cannabanoids as well as you do (if you do, that is, and if you intend to smoke responsibly then you certainly should read up), and a keen eye for discrepancies which is not hard to acquire if you're good friends with someone who grows.

 

Purchasing psychoactive substances from someone you don't know well enough to trust is a mistake and possibly a grievance against yourself.

 

EDIT: Way to beat me to this one Luke.

well yeah of course, this is true. but a lot of people don't have that "good friend", and will buy anything.. then have a bad experience and then proclaim all drugs to be BAD! never touch anything again and go completely the other way. like so many people i know.

s'why we need proper growers...... your friend is like hundreds of thousands of other friends man......

bullshit yourself.

I'm trying to think of a way to express what exactly I have against this stuff...

I mean, I smoked it for 5 years, sometimes often. I used harder drugs. I tripped on things, often strange and lesser known drugs. And all the while I mostly felt like I was learning something or that it was OK and fun. And most of the time, it was.

But nowadays when I see people blazing... it's like this compulsion. They have to do it. Is that really... fun?

The fucking smell of weed in the middle of an afternoon, the thought of people sitting on couches, slow moving, stupid, watching the fucking TV in between taking bong rips, getting excited about the trip to McDonalds... there's nothing more depressing. Well, there is, but maybe you feel what I'm saying. I mean, can't people just deal with what's in front of them?

It's just gross. There is a point where it's extremely fun, extremely enjoyable. And then there is a point where it's a lifestyle, a gross lifestyle that can consume people who haven't already been through it enough to realize that it's bullshit.

That's how I see it. You can hate me for ragging on it if you're living it. I really don't like it, personally. And I especially don't like these dickhead stoner types dragging my brother down to their levels.

So I guess, that's the best way to express what I'm saying. Would you like to see your loved ones take up weed smoking as a lifestyle? Would you approve or be total devoid of worry? And what does that tell you about the drug?

wweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeedds tits

droppin science like galileo dropped the orange

been getting pissed and smoking weed for over 15yrs and as long as your not doing this all day every day you'll be fine and at least couple of t-total dry days a week and eat healthy

I've learned...

if your depressed weed isn't ideal

the tobacco in a joint will do more damage than the weed hence my mild asthma and a move onto vaporizers

a combination with constant drinking can fuck up your short term memory however having a dry period will sort your shit out

weed helps me get a decent nights sleep but too much won't help me get up for work in the next morning

motivation is all psychological and fuck all to do with the above you just tend to have less fun doing the shit you don't like doing

I know people who smoke a lot of decent weed who can perfectly function in responsible jobs that require you to be very on the ball however these folk aren't heavy weekend drinkers or caners (like me)

moderation and/or regular breaks are the key in my experience i.e. how can you get high if your already there?

  On 2/13/2011 at 11:34 PM, sirch said:

  On 2/13/2011 at 9:23 PM, luke viia said:

Also I realize I just went on a tangent about many things that were not being discussed in this thread, but the question of legalization that sirch brought up is a subject that can go a lot of ways, and I wanted to share my wider beliefs about the whole issue. And when I say "drug cartels and gangs would be replaced by corporations" I mean that corporations would become the new cartels and gangs; not that cartels and gangs would disappear.

 

 

that's better, though, surely?

atm you don't know what you're getting from anybody. in an ideal world, if it was all overseen/regulated/managed....

well, utopia!

,but like i said before, never gonna happen anytime soon because people are people, generally.

this all has a lonnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnng way to go beofre people will REALLY be free.

haha, well done sir. atop take note, you have been surpassed quite convincingly.

I had 2 joints last night and feel very much on top today.

One of the joints was had out in stormy weather, bit of excersize there.

I always find it helps to combine weed smoking with some wholesome activity such as biking, walking, reading or cooking.

And yes. It is a workout for the brain.

  On 2/14/2011 at 6:20 AM, xxx said:

*science*

I see, I see...well you certainly schooled me there. Not that I didn't expect it lol.

whats the likelihood of fucking your mom with border collie breed?

i smoke daily, but rarely drink. i get pretty bad hangovers and i'm the lightest lightweight, but i don't care about drinking. i'm not a party animal, dancing, yelling asshole motherfucker, so i basically can't hang out with drunk people, unless i'm drunk. in that case, see sentence 2.

as a child i wasn't very motivated. i could get an A in most classes just by rubbing my ass on the exams, and do all homework right before class. (note this is without the weed) i cared about video games and the NBA. i was about 15. this was when my grades started to slip a little and i realized i have to apply myself a little bit to get by. this trend of extreme laziness, no motivation and apathy continued.

college: i had to study for some classes and actually do homework sometimes. this sucked, but everything still very easy. i started smoking weed occasionally in my 2nd year, and by the final semester i was smoking daily. i saw no effect on myself mentally, as i was achieving the same grades. in fact, i usually did better because i would roll one up, then get to studying/homework and light up when i was done. this was the highest level of motivation i've ever had, as far as school. study for an hour, then smoke a (1/2) blunt? sounds good.

after-college: been graduated for over a year now, in the workplace within my field, gaining XP for future endeavors. my level of motivation is, as always, quite low. lately it's been very very low, but moreso due to the despair brought on by my job. i still love smoking. love it. i see it as 2 huge things for me: 1) release 2) motivation. since i'm very lazy, but i love to smoke weed, i'll go do work if i will be rewarded with said weed.

like i said, i don't drink much. i'm a fairly extreme introvert, and very reserved socially. whether anyone thinks it's pathetic or not, i absolutely love to blow a whole weekend with a bag and a video game. this is what i liked to do before i smoked (except it was a bag of snacks), and i wager it's probably what i'd be doing without smoking.

i'd also like to note that i don't get stupid stoned, like a lot of nubs that talk about why weed sucks. it doesn't change me a lot, but it makes me relaxed, and the action of smoking itself is a great release. i have not experienced any ill effects from my smoking so far (aside a run-in with a forest ranger)

ps- i also have an undiagnosed stomach problem that was extensively tested when i was a child. i had a low level of appetite and found it tough to even maintain my slender frame. since i've been smoking it's pretty easy for me to eat enough that i don't wither away, so that's good right?

your earlier reply was much better.

sorry

it still applies though

whats the likelihood of fucking up your mind with Uwe Boll's Seed?

what's the likelihood of a tree growing out of your head?

  On 2/14/2011 at 9:56 PM, theSun said:

i started smoking weed occasionally in my 2nd year, and by the final semester i was smoking daily. i saw no effect on myself mentally, as i was achieving the same grades. in fact, i usually did better because i would roll one up, then get to studying/homework and light up when i was done. this was the highest level of motivation i've ever had, as far as school. study for an hour, then smoke a (1/2) blunt? sounds good.

It really just depends on the person and patterns of use. Honestly this whole couch potato weed thing is complete bullshit. The vast majority of people go home and drink beer and watch tv or surf youtube for hours every day. Throw in some weed and suddenly it's the weed's fault that they are couch potatoes?.. what a lame argument. but I digress.. pretty much all the people I know who toke frequently are the busiest people I know, students+musicians, and doing quite well in life. Of course, they typically aren't smoking hallucinogenic or blackout doses several times per diem either. Moderation, responsible use, know thy body.

And yeah, I don't know about your digestive problems, but my celiac friend swears by the stuff