tycho visuals

Yeah, Chromakey Dreamcoat... That sounds nothing like the Tycho track. Both have guitar, but they're so different.

If you had posted Hey Saturday Sun, it would at least be a little closer. Still at all similar though. It's just a bad example.

hi tycho

  On 4/14/2011 at 4:21 AM, Al5x said:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZ2BT3SBO9U

I can't hear this track without the acapel of shimmy shimmy ya by ODB... that was an awesome mashup whoever did it.

for whatever it's worth Scott from Tycho does know how to handle internet criticisms. i just reread the whole thing and i'm pretty surprised that he was able to hold back any detectable vitriol.

Yes, he just gained a bit of respect from me there.

good response.

also i'd just like to thank the op of this thread for re-igniting my tycho love. (however unintentionally it was)

also, seriously, coastal brake owns. i'm psyched as hell for the new album.

sweet, I'm glad it has a happy ending and we can all move on now.

yeah I think it is easy for us to get caught up with our perceptions and then sharing them as truths. uniqueness is important but I don't think it is the basis for honesty. I have fallen to this trap, in this thread and elsewhere and it is mostly irrational and a waste of time and energy. encouragement of creativity will lead to new things in time. the process of how someone decides to go about fueling their drive, is personal and ultimately fine. tycho sounds honest about himself so pat on the back (:

I still feel exactly the same way as I did on my first post as I'm sure many people do here but I do agree with you kk.

come to think of it, it seems like every few months this topic comes up here, people go apeshit and then it's over.

it would be nice if more people could speak intelligently like scott, coalbucket, awp, etc and not just act the fool like the moon gadget guy and some others...

but hey...

watmm

Hello mr Scott Tycho. I regret calling you "pure evil". It was very silly of me.

I will check out your new album when it's done. And I will buy one of your t-shirts.

scott sounds like a thoroughly nice guy.

  On 4/9/2011 at 2:54 PM, lumpenprol said:

I defended Tycho's album after it came out, even after the guy came across as phony and defensive in that flame war (was it on xltronic? I though it was watmm). In any case, I find all his stuff - graphic design, music - good, but too polished. Very commercial, if not cynical. I think it's the fact that he's commercializing an aesthetic that is supposed to be anti-commercial that is the most galling aspect. BoC (or at least their image) is about shunning the spotlight and making very personal art in a non-commercial way (and needless to say, the popular movements in the 60s and 70s were about personal freedom which had an element of anti-commercialism). Yet Tycho seems to be all about self-promotion and slickness. IF you can get past this, and just focus on the music, then none of the rest really matters.

 

Personally, I think while his music had become less-BoC like over time, it has become more repetitive, self-referential, and plain boring. It sounds to me like he's still repeating the musical ideas from his first album, just refining them a bit. I think the Flashbulb comparison is pretty spot-on.

If you think BoC's work (or Scott's for that matter) is anti-commercial, then you really need to open your eyes - both are a reflection and celebration of commercial design and an esthetic that ran through the mid 70's and 80's that defined a period of time in both music and graphic design where the electronification of music started changing how it sounded and introduced new ideas into the mainstream.

  On 4/14/2011 at 3:36 PM, keltoi said:

scott sounds like a thoroughly nice guy.

He is - and I can confirm those are Scott's words.

*Creates Tycho subforum, watches WATMM explode *

  On 4/14/2011 at 5:57 PM, Joyrex said:

Tycho subforum

  On 4/14/2011 at 5:57 PM, Joyrex said:

 

He is - and I can confirm those are Scott's words.

 

*Creates Tycho subforum, watches WATMM explode *

LOL

  On 4/14/2011 at 2:42 AM, Tycho said:

I guess the point is, some people said they felt I haven't made an effort to change my sound. My question would be, what are you using as a reference point? I haven't released any significant body of work in over 6 years.

Haters think that you're pulling a BOC maneuver with the wait d:

Scott, I find your music to be very pleasing and I don't blame you a single bit for being influenced in any way by BOC. They have released some truly touching music, yet sadly I have seen many voice their negative reactions to BOC just as people are voicing about yours. Not trying to make the direct comparison between your music and theirs, just trying to say that some people out there aren't going to be into the same things that you're into artistically - and that is a good thing! I feel bad for people who get so caught up in extra information that they reshape their listening experience before even lending their ears to the music. I am excited for your new album! Definitely let us know. Also I would love to see a post of all your skate/surf paraphernalia (:

Cheers

Alright, now I'm slightly sorry for my outrage earlier. At least he's acknowledging the influence. I was under the impression that he dodged that question, which casts doubt on the originality of his thinking. I still have some of those doubts, honestly, and it's not just because of warbly synths sounds. It's the whole package. Given that he is a fairly thoughtful guy, I'm sure he could push his ideas in a way that would mark his own distinctive path. Thus far, from what I see (and given the points the OP mentioned), I think there's still too much retreading on familiar ground. Look, I understand that neither surf aesthetic nor nature documentary are owned by BoC as part of an artistic project, but there just has to be a different way to accomplish this that doesn't feel so BoCish. I'm sorry that there isn't something more precise to say in the way of criticism, but the overlap is just apparent.

  On 4/14/2011 at 8:55 PM, jules said:

  On 4/14/2011 at 5:57 PM, Joyrex said:

Tycho subforum

 

 

You need a lens flare and a lilting guitar riff over those tumbleweeds blowing...

lol and a surfer

  On 4/14/2011 at 8:55 PM, jules said:

  On 4/14/2011 at 5:57 PM, Joyrex said:

Tycho subforum

 

 

biggest lol i've had in some time here, thank you.

Lets quickly approach this somewhat resolved problem from a theoretical perspective.

Tycho's music is almost strictly diatonic, and I find it much more aligned with Helios' sound compositionally. The song on the video from the OP operates on 4 5 6 and 2 chords.

Off the top of my head I can't think of a single BoC song that is diatonic, (for those that don't know, only using the notes that compose the major scale). BoC often uses counter motion as well as parallel 7th chords and so on. A hallmark of the BoC sound for me that this forum seems to have always missed is their persistent use of heptatonia secunda, which contains modes such as ascending melodic minor, melodic major, and the Acoustic Scale This combination of notes has equally as much to do the mysterious, ghostly nostalgia associated with BoC as their sound aesthetic. "Left Side Drive" is a good example of heptatonia secunda in their music.

I love the visuals and the song......very much looking forward to his new album.

Also, the music accompanying the video gives off more of an Ulrich Schnauss vibe, not BoC.

  On 4/15/2011 at 2:04 AM, sheatheman said:

Lets quickly approach this somewhat resolved problem from a theoretical perspective.

 

Tycho's music is almost strictly diatonic, and I find it much more aligned with Helios' sound compositionally. The song on the video from the OP operates on 4 5 6 and 2 chords.

 

Off the top of my head I can't think of a single BoC song that is diatonic, (for those that don't know, only using the notes that compose the major scale). BoC often uses counter motion as well as parallel 7th chords and so on. A hallmark of the BoC sound for me that this forum seems to have always missed is their persistent use of heptatonia secunda, which contains modes such as ascending melodic minor, melodic major, and the Acoustic Scale This combination of notes has equally as much to do the mysterious, ghostly nostalgia associated with BoC as their sound aesthetic. "Left Side Drive" is a good example of heptatonia secunda in their music.

Jesus christ, well done.

Decided to look back on this topic because after listening to Dive I thought of how wrong we were.