Schmidt!

"theres no sequencer or arpeggiator. this is just the mod sources"

http://www.sonicstate.com/news/2011/04/07/messe11-mother-of-god-its-the-schmidt-poly/

all params editable off the front panel - no menus

dedicated lfos for every oscillator

dedicated lfo and eg for every filter

panner

one of the vcos is voiced to sound "metallic"

intends to sell it commercially but no idea when

price is "not cheap"

you can change the colour of the leds :)

unison mode coming

45kilos

157 knobs

9:26 :0

I love how he's standing right next to moog, pwning the hell out of them.

PURPLE! WOOOOOOOOOOO

seriously I want one soooo bad. This guy is my new hero.

"dedicated lfos for every oscillator"

It might sound like a good idea on paper, but I can't imagine this being very musical once the voices start stacking up.

I already have two of his products and he is da mang.

surprisingly he used to have a reputation for delivering cool analogue stuff cheaply :)

  On 4/7/2011 at 7:29 PM, Brandi_B said:

3:28

 

I take it all back, that is the shit (or the schmidt)

I don't see myself ever buying an analog synth.

  On 4/8/2011 at 2:50 AM, Kcinsu said:

I don't see myself ever buying an analog synth.

i used to say the same....now I've lost my mind with analog and have the best of both worlds!

i am interested in things that are a functional piece of gear as a whole, that sound good, and that i can afford. i could give two fucks about what's inside !

i'm tired of not owning any hardware. thinking about getting an evolver when i have enough money.

  On 4/8/2011 at 7:11 AM, vamos scorcho said:

i'm tired of not owning any hardware. thinking about getting an evolver when i have enough money.

with hindsight, buy something cheap first. i'd love to own an evolver myself, but they're expensive. definitely a bit rich to cut your teeth on. an electribe maybe, with which you can do shit right away. or if you want a keyboard... sh101, ms2000... etc.

edit: ok, you probably meant the MONO evolver... but sh101, ms2000, or electribe still would be a better first step !

mono evolver is a bit meh tbh...they are quite cheap though.

  On 4/8/2011 at 2:05 PM, BCM said:

mono evolver is a bit meh tbh...they are quite cheap though.

exactly. otoh, poly evolver is great, but quite expensive.

life eh?

there is an engineering maxim....

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fast, good, cheap: pick two.

The problem with DSI gear is you need to buy a good filter to go along with it :(

the improved mopho/P08's curtis filter is excellent its just a shame you cant saturate it

  On 4/12/2011 at 3:05 PM, soundwave said:

the improved mopho/P08's curtis filter is excellent its just a shame you cant saturate it

There was a new revision to the p08 filter? I bought one when they first came out. The filter was limp.

  On 4/12/2011 at 3:44 PM, acidphakist said:

  On 4/12/2011 at 3:05 PM, soundwave said:

the improved mopho/P08's curtis filter is excellent its just a shame you cant saturate it

 

There was a new revision to the p08 filter? I bought one when they first came out. The filter was limp.

it was a revision of the evolver filter

i thought it was quite good, well callibrated range, doesnt rob much bass at high resonace and which quite juicy but it was a little too clean to be perfect

I thought the 08 was good but more old ideas repackaged which had me making the type of sounds I've heard before all too often

in unison mode it did beat a memorymoog for BIG sound

tbh I don't really like dsi gear that much at all.

i don't have hands-on time with much of the DSI stuff, but i have a Prophet VS and it's amazing. not so much for the filters (CEM i think -- they do the job) but for the design of the synth itself. you use the random patch generator until it's pleasantly dropping aliased alien artifacts and demon squawks, then you clean the patch up a bit -- the panning, the chorus, the tuning, nudge the LFOs, etc.

then you turn on double mode, and stack something just as crazy on top of it. both can be unison; it'll split the voices for you. one layer can be delayed by xxx milliseconds, the second layer can be detuned, etc. you wind up getting extremely dense jungles of rich wavetable oddness with ease.

if you want a little more flavor, it has one of the most flexible, amazing arps i've ever used. it'll hold more notes than the sh101's seq, does rests, layering, can sync to midi clock, etc. etc.

i'd love to own a prophet 2000. they strike me as having similar magic, from what i've seen/read/heard.

although the Prophet 08 was more akin to the Prophet 600 in sound it's a good solid all round polysynth for the money thats as good as most other hiked vintage classics it's just all I seemed to make on it were Orbital and Jarre type sounds which is good if you want I want to explore new noisey stuff so it went

I always thought Dave Smith pulled off a bit of an Emperor's New Clothes with his analogue range.

Analogue purists used to HATE DCO technology with a passion. Ignorant people used to (and still do) list DCO synths on auctions as "digital/analog hybrid" because they can't tell the difference between "digitally controlled" and "digital".

The along comes the Prophet08 and all the old vintage heads are buying it up and taking it seriously. The same guys who'd laugh at you if you offered them a JX8P or a Matrix 6. Auction listings cream themselves over how vintage and proper analogue it is. Prophet 08 is not a cheap synth given you can get the same synth (literally - they're polychainable) by buying 2 Tetras. But I guess most of what you're buying is a nice performance controller and some wood. Nobody ever mentions "DCO" when they talk about the 08.

Also the Curtis synth-on-a-chip ICs Dave uses have been around since he 80s. This is the core of the sound of ALL his analogues and it's already been in a crapload of synths you can get for fuck all used.

Meanwhile Dave releases the world's first (?) DCO based MONOsynth. It's still a DCO. AS much as I love my DCO synths they still indisputably sound less "analogue" than VCOs. Would I take one voice from any of my DCO/Curtis based based polysynths and try to do monosynth stuff with it? FUCK NO.

So basically Dave's taken an uncool way of making analogue synths that's been around since 1982 and made people think it's innovative and "true analogue" just by...

* Putting the name Dave Smith on it

* Distracting marks with "HAY GUYZ WOODEN ENDPANELZ AND HIGH PRICE"

* Designing cool interfaces that make the things fun to jam with

I'm not sure what my point is, and I dont exactly have a huge problem with Dave Smith, but I think it's weird that we now live in a time where people still list JX8Ps as "digital analogue hybrid" and yet regard the P08 as a serious analogue polysynth.

It's like if Ford put a 96 Probe engine in the 2012 Mustang and somehow spun it so nobody cared either way.