Missionaries

i hope if i ever go to essines' house some jehovah's witnesses come by, he'll know what to do

the problem with christians is that they pick and choose what is relevant to them from the bible.

If the Bible is Gods word, who are you, a mere mortal, to question any single section of it

"Any person who curseth his mother or father, must be killed. (Leviticus 20:9) "

"If anyone, even your own family suggests worshipping another God, kill them. (Deuteronomy 13:6-10)"

etc etc

That what I usually ask to nutjobs trying to push their religion on me. They always come out with " well it has to be put into context", does it? Then how come so much of it that you choose does not get put into context.

Twatters

The only experiances I think I have encountered have been with the Hare Krishnas. Feels good to dance around and play a tamberine.

  On 5/29/2011 at 4:59 AM, nene multiple assgasms said:

the last time I had missionaries or whatever knock on my door, it was an older man and a younger woman. why do they always operate in pairs? safety? anyway, the guy did all the talking. he asked me if I was a bible reader, and I said yes. he also asked me what I thought about all the wars and disasters happening in the world, and I said it was the same stuff that's always been going on. a little while later, he asks what I believed, and I told him I was an atheist. he said how unusual it was that I was a bible reader who was an atheist. he laid the watchmaker analogy on me, which I destroyed by pointing out that we know that watchmakers make watches, but there's no similar knowledge of gods making universes or people. he then tried to make a similar point about how complex a space shuttle is compared to the brain or something. he asked me if I had ever seen a space shuttle being made, and I told him that I had probably seen one being made on tv at one time or another. that was about when he said goodbye.

this old guy came up to me at an interior design exhibition where the company i work for had a display. he asked what i did and when i said 'designer' he went off on the old watchmaker for over 10 minutes of some prepared monologue before i could get a word in and tell him he's wasting my time and his. i wished him good luck with his crusade.

  On 5/30/2011 at 5:32 AM, OneToThirtySix said:

I tell them "no thank you, have a nice day." Then I close the door and unpause the porn.

Should have shaken their hands goodbye. heheh.

  On 5/30/2011 at 11:46 AM, tompty said:

the problem with christians is that they pick and choose what is relevant to them from the bible.

 

If the Bible is Gods word, who are you, a mere mortal, to question any single section of it

 

 

 

"Any person who curseth his mother or father, must be killed. (Leviticus 20:9) "

"If anyone, even your own family suggests worshipping another God, kill them. (Deuteronomy 13:6-10)"

 

etc etc

 

That what I usually ask to nutjobs trying to push their religion on me. They always come out with " well it has to be put into context", does it? Then how come so much of it that you choose does not get put into context.

 

Twatters

Whilst this is all true, the aggression tact, is less likely to convince anyone to stray from something that their puny mind has allowed them to be indoctrinated by.

Most Christians only follow the New Testament and even then they only follow passages that serve to validate their own pet peeves

The key word there is "follow".

good point

Yeah, because like all religions, no matter the initial text, they break up into sects, whom hold some sacred understanding that reveals to it's followers some sort of higher level beyond that which the mere shallow non initiated plebs understand.

Eventually if this splinter group gets popular enough, it will also splinter. It's the religious fractal principle that i just invented. Open copyright by me. (whom you should all follow, for a time, until someone with a better shirt knows better, could be me tomorrow)

"Judge not, that ye be not judged For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again. Mk. 4.24 "

Seems to be followed the least

mm yes, it is the least followed dictum.

But how can people who's founding fathers, shunned the learning of rome, remember glass, and it's negative possibilities where defence is concerned.

I say rome as a placeholder for learning. Not as a place folder for burning.

  On 5/29/2011 at 4:42 AM, tht tne said:

  On 5/29/2011 at 4:40 AM, hautlle said:

  On 5/29/2011 at 4:21 AM, tht tne said:

jehovah's witnesses don't celebrate christmas

 

 

dum dum dum dum dum

 

 

you also can't give them gifts except at random times

that is actually really nice

I always run into Mormons at the city I go to school in. Every time we end up talking about a Mormon I went to school with. Then we just talk, I tell him I'm an Agnostic Atheist and my reasoning, he realizes converting me is a lost cause, we talk some more, and then we're off. They're always polite as hell.

Jehovah's Wittnesses on the other hand, just won't give up.

All that waste of drinkin' time for that .. ;-/

i've always wondered what would happen if scientology was 2000 years old, and christianity wasn't even a century old. i mean i'm not trying to be a dick, i'm just curious about this sort of shit.

Jesus rode a Unicorn. You heard it here first.

i went to high school in a city, and when we'd go to lunch there would sometimes be some christians on the street trying to convert people. arguing with them was something many people did with their lunchbreak....

my personal tac probably wouldn't surprise anyone here. i go for a combination of logic and non-sequiturs. probably the best line i ever came up with was, "Can God write a rock so heavy, even He cannot play it?"

it sounds identical to one that gets thrown at them all the time, and they start to parrot off a prepared answer. but then it hits them that i said something else, and the gears come to a screeching halt... a sentence abandoned three words in and a furrowed brow. then they'd smile, laugh, tell me to have a nice day, and go bother someone else.

these days i really don't give a shit. there are more entertaining arguments to be found elsewhere (hi WATMM!)

If they are smaller than you challenge them to a game of mercy over whether the lord exists. If they refuse they obviously dont have faith.

being with jesus must be very comforting. allows you wall off a lot of the world's drama. don't worry about anything, 'cos it's all part of god's plan, and you're with god. understandable someone would get upset when you try and steal their jesus security blanket. for those deeply entrenched, losing jesus might be like withdrawing from benzodiazepines.

Plus everyone can get fucked up on wine. Who would want to give that up?

i do that perfectly well without jesus.

  On 5/30/2011 at 5:32 PM, marf said:

Most Christians only follow the New Testament and even then they only follow passages that serve to validate their own pet peeves

they'll cite the old testament wherever it matches up with their hatreds, for example, the leviticus verse against homosexuality.

  On 5/31/2011 at 12:50 AM, nene multiple assgasms said:

  On 5/30/2011 at 5:32 PM, marf said:

Most Christians only follow the New Testament and even then they only follow passages that serve to validate their own pet peeves

 

they'll cite the old testament wherever it matches up with their hatreds, for example, the leviticus verse against homosexuality.

i don't think you can know much about what christians do or don't follow if you're not a christian

i used live with a welsh midget (well, not technically a midget, but he was 4'11" tall) in holland. he was raised by jehovah's witnesses and basically said 'fuck that' to the religion at 18. and coincidentally the town i lived in (zandvoort) seemed to be swarming with them. it was always a lol, because when they knocked i'd send him out to talk to them. so, picture jehovah's witnesses speaking dutch being angrily shouted at by a midget speaking english in the thickest welsh accent imaginable, which was utterly incomprehensible to them. shit never got old.

  On 5/31/2011 at 2:11 AM, tht tne said:

  On 5/31/2011 at 12:50 AM, nene multiple assgasms said:

  On 5/30/2011 at 5:32 PM, marf said:

Most Christians only follow the New Testament and even then they only follow passages that serve to validate their own pet peeves

 

they'll cite the old testament wherever it matches up with their hatreds, for example, the leviticus verse against homosexuality.

 

i don't think you can know much about what christians do or don't follow if you're not a christian

that's bullshit, the research materials are accessible to everybody.

a mate got blagged by two latter-day saint types at the bus stop a few weeks back

after leading them on a bit he said he was thinking of converting to Islam which scarred them off pretty sharpish