Where is the soul in Quaristice?

jesus died for you autechre

  On 5/30/2011 at 3:49 PM, Obel said:

  On 5/30/2011 at 12:40 PM, sljiva said:

What Ae album has soul (with exception of first two) and how is that soul manifested?

 

How do the first two albums have soul?

 

How do you define soul?

 

Answer them first.

As soul is supposedly something only humans have, I associate it with emotional aspects of the music - mostly melodic content. Genuine strings, warm pads, certain drones - but not just the sounds, also the way they're created, played and arranged. Cliche music has no soul, no matter how melodic it is. Strictly mechanical music also has no soul, because we associate it with machines that are completely soulless. That's just my definition btw. And I use "soul" as just another descriptor, not as a tool for distinguishing good music from bad. For what it's worth, I think their first two albums are the weakest ones, despite having soul.

experts debating topics that they're each an expert in, makes for highly interesting and expert reading.

  On 5/31/2011 at 3:28 AM, oscillik said:

experts debating topics that they're each an expert in, makes for highly interesting and expert reading.

Then don't read it. Simple.

  On 5/31/2011 at 3:45 AM, sljiva said:

  On 5/31/2011 at 3:28 AM, oscillik said:

experts debating topics that they're each an expert in, makes for highly interesting and expert reading.

 

Then don't read it. Simple.

i'm not complaining at all, i'm actually quite enthused about reading from such learned scholars

  On 5/31/2011 at 3:48 AM, oscillik said:

  On 5/31/2011 at 3:45 AM, sljiva said:

  On 5/31/2011 at 3:28 AM, oscillik said:

experts debating topics that they're each an expert in, makes for highly interesting and expert reading.

 

Then don't read it. Simple.

i'm not complaining at all, i'm actually quite enthused about reading from such learned scholars

Oh fuck off.

I don't know where the soul is, but groove is in the heart.

Quaristice always struck me as the closest thing to "whimsical" they've ever been. It sounds like they were having fun with it, maybe having a bit of a laugh at points, but I wouldn't say they were taking the piss. It's a very well arranged album, the way one track progresses into the next. It remains an engaging listen for me in part because no track exceeds its welcome. You get a taste of one idea and then it's on to another. Actually in some way it seems like a bit of a retrospective, in that they took a lot of samples and rhythms from previous albums and reworked them into something new. I remember thinking of it as an Ae remix album on my first few listens because there were so many recognizable bits reprocessed, sped up or otherwise reintegrated. So yeah, lots of recycled souls in new bodies. I guess I'm going to be giving it another listen this week.

  On 5/31/2011 at 3:51 AM, sljiva said:

  On 5/31/2011 at 3:48 AM, oscillik said:

  On 5/31/2011 at 3:45 AM, sljiva said:

  On 5/31/2011 at 3:28 AM, oscillik said:

experts debating topics that they're each an expert in, makes for highly interesting and expert reading.

 

Then don't read it. Simple.

i'm not complaining at all, i'm actually quite enthused about reading from such learned scholars

 

Oh fuck off.

sorry, i thought this thread was a discussion? i'm simply voicing my opinion on the debate in here.

  On 5/31/2011 at 4:04 AM, oscillik said:

  On 5/31/2011 at 3:51 AM, sljiva said:

  On 5/31/2011 at 3:48 AM, oscillik said:

  On 5/31/2011 at 3:45 AM, sljiva said:

  On 5/31/2011 at 3:28 AM, oscillik said:

experts debating topics that they're each an expert in, makes for highly interesting and expert reading.

 

Then don't read it. Simple.

i'm not complaining at all, i'm actually quite enthused about reading from such learned scholars

 

Oh fuck off.

sorry, i thought this thread was a discussion? i'm simply voicing my opinion on the debate in here.

You can voice your opinion without being a snobish dick.

  On 5/31/2011 at 4:09 AM, sljiva said:

  On 5/31/2011 at 4:04 AM, oscillik said:

  On 5/31/2011 at 3:51 AM, sljiva said:

  On 5/31/2011 at 3:48 AM, oscillik said:

  On 5/31/2011 at 3:45 AM, sljiva said:

  On 5/31/2011 at 3:28 AM, oscillik said:

experts debating topics that they're each an expert in, makes for highly interesting and expert reading.

 

Then don't read it. Simple.

i'm not complaining at all, i'm actually quite enthused about reading from such learned scholars

 

Oh fuck off.

sorry, i thought this thread was a discussion? i'm simply voicing my opinion on the debate in here.

 

You can voice your opinion without being a snobish dick.

i personally think that people making authoritative statements about something that is so very obviously a subjective matter is a bit...i dunno, just plain incorrect. from a factual standpoint.

  On 5/30/2011 at 4:15 PM, o00o said:

Soul = catchy melodies

lol

after Chiastic Slide, Quaristice is where i really started to love their music again. and it continued into Oversteps and Move of Ten. all of their music is great, but the gap is where i have some emotional disconnection

and Quaristice came out just when i was discovering them, so maybe i'm biased or something

Q + Soul = Love

I've always thought of Quaristice as a try at expressing some kind of austerity, or anti-music. Pleasure denial, aesthetic denial. Something beautiful starts to form, then is swept away or disfigured before being given a chance to take root and grow. Musical bondage if you like. It's a relentlessly ugly album.

quaristice is great

it's so reserved that you miss much of the variation, but there's so much stuff in there that i can't imagine just dismissing quaristice+quadrange+versions.

  On 5/31/2011 at 3:54 AM, Zephyr_Nova said:

I don't know where the soul is, but groove is in the heart.

 

Quaristice always struck me as the closest thing to "whimsical" they've ever been. It sounds like they were having fun with it, maybe having a bit of a laugh at points, but I wouldn't say they were taking the piss. It's a very well arranged album, the way one track progresses into the next. It remains an engaging listen for me in part because no track exceeds its welcome. You get a taste of one idea and then it's on to another. Actually in some way it seems like a bit of a retrospective, in that they took a lot of samples and rhythms from previous albums and reworked them into something new. I remember thinking of it as an Ae remix album on my first few listens because there were so many recognizable bits reprocessed, sped up or otherwise reintegrated. So yeah, lots of recycled souls in new bodies. I guess I'm going to be giving it another listen this week.

i'm curious what sounds/samples they used from previous works? obviously they played quaristice bits at live sets pre-quaristice release, is that what you mean?

  On 5/31/2011 at 4:09 AM, sljiva said:

  On 5/31/2011 at 4:04 AM, oscillik said:

  On 5/31/2011 at 3:51 AM, sljiva said:

  On 5/31/2011 at 3:48 AM, oscillik said:

  On 5/31/2011 at 3:45 AM, sljiva said:

  On 5/31/2011 at 3:28 AM, oscillik said:

experts debating topics that they're each an expert in, makes for highly interesting and expert reading.

 

Then don't read it. Simple.

i'm not complaining at all, i'm actually quite enthused about reading from such learned scholars

 

Oh fuck off.

sorry, i thought this thread was a discussion? i'm simply voicing my opinion on the debate in here.

 

You can voice your opinion without being a snobish dick.

you should make it so that the plum's background matches the forum background exactly and it will look like it floats.

In protest of this thread I'm going to change my avatar to the cover of Quaristice!

where's the soul, man?

mine is tucked safely away in my glove box

My expert opinion: a lot of people seem to prefer their earlier albums because they use relatively simple beats and easily digestible melodies, everything repeating at nice, regular, understandable intervals. Once they started to deviate from that and create things that were not as easy to follow initially, those listeners got upset about it. They tried to get into it and after a few listens they realized that they couldn't so they wrote it off as too weird or just bad. If only Autechre would just make the same albums over and over with those recognizable beats and easily digested melodies to keep these people happy. I think they would find their musical careers much more fulfilling.

South Korea's got soul

  On 5/31/2011 at 4:12 PM, theSun said:

quaristice is great

 

it's so reserved that you miss much of the variation, but there's so much stuff in there that i can't imagine just dismissing quaristice+quadrange+versions.

 

  On 5/31/2011 at 3:54 AM, Zephyr_Nova said:

I don't know where the soul is, but groove is in the heart.

 

Quaristice always struck me as the closest thing to "whimsical" they've ever been. It sounds like they were having fun with it, maybe having a bit of a laugh at points, but I wouldn't say they were taking the piss. It's a very well arranged album, the way one track progresses into the next. It remains an engaging listen for me in part because no track exceeds its welcome. You get a taste of one idea and then it's on to another. Actually in some way it seems like a bit of a retrospective, in that they took a lot of samples and rhythms from previous albums and reworked them into something new. I remember thinking of it as an Ae remix album on my first few listens because there were so many recognizable bits reprocessed, sped up or otherwise reintegrated. So yeah, lots of recycled souls in new bodies. I guess I'm going to be giving it another listen this week.

 

i'm curious what sounds/samples they used from previous works? obviously they played quaristice bits at live sets pre-quaristice release, is that what you mean?

No, I'm not familiar with the live sets. There are various sounds from Untilted, Draft 7.30, more later period stuff that I noticed. Since I don't know which names of Ae songs go with which tracks it will be challenging for me to get specific, but if I remember I'll make a note of where it happens next time I listen. On the Gescom release ISS:SA they did this as well with sounds from Draft 7.30... of course they were made around the same time, so it could be the other way around. In any case, it's pretty standard to reuse samples that you're fond of, so it may be less a case of them "remixing" themselves, and more a case of them just double dipping back into the library of sounds they've amassed over the years. Most artists do that, it's just in Ae's case the sounds are a lot more unique to them, so it always seems like "hey, they're reusing that bit from ___" as opposed to "oh, they used that snare sound they like again".

Quaristice for the most part sounds like a soundtrack for Cloverfield but, yes, there's some soul in it:

Altibzz

The Plc

Simmm

paralel Suns

Theswere

Notwo

quaristice and draft both sound lush and organic to me, like mushrooms growing in time lapse. in contrast, confield and untilted both sound more cold and austere. quaristice is mad funky. since when is funk not soulful?

Listen to rale full blast. Orgasmic times!

Quaristice is for kids silly rabbit