You've Come a Long Way Baby VS. Entroducing

Fatboy Slim for me [who would have guessed? ]

apples and oranges yo

also enntroducing has not held up well over time for me

its like a 3-4 tracker

the "oh shit he did all of that with just records and MPC" effect has dissipated

oh come on. this isn't even a contest. endtroducing.

  On 6/8/2011 at 9:56 PM, kaini said:

oh come on. this isn't even a contest. endtroducing.

fucking and fucking and fucking and fucking

  On 6/8/2011 at 10:13 PM, Gocab said:

  On 6/8/2011 at 9:56 PM, kaini said:

oh come on. this isn't even a contest. endtroducing.

  On 6/8/2011 at 10:57 PM, Braintree said:

  On 6/8/2011 at 10:13 PM, Gocab said:

  On 6/8/2011 at 9:56 PM, kaini said:

oh come on. this isn't even a contest. endtroducing.

I had to refresh the page when I saw this thread I thought it was some kind of glitch

But yeah , Endtroducing...hands down .

EnDtroducing for sure

I am seeing him live for the first time on july 13th. Very excited.

Fatboy Slim of course.

What the fuck is this?

Also Endtroducing you tasteless cuntbag.

big soup

this is a Fatboy Slim thread guys. listen to "Praise You" and tell me that isn't art

  On 6/9/2011 at 1:00 AM, Adam Beker said:

Fatboy Slim of course.

okay, not.

endtroducing. seeing dj shadow on friday. mega hyped.

You lucky mothafucka .

  On 6/9/2011 at 2:37 AM, vamos scorcho said:

this is a Fatboy Slim thread guys. listen to "Praise You" and tell me that isn't art

i'm also seeing the chemical brothers on saturday. it's a very 90s weekend.

if I had to choose a breaks album from this time it would be this...

  On 6/9/2011 at 2:37 AM, vamos scorcho said:

this is a Fatboy Slim thread guys. listen to "Praise You" and tell me that isn't art

well then why is it called 'You've Come a Long Way Baby VS. Entroducing'?

you can't ask watmm's opinion, then get pissed off when it doesn't coincide with yours.

I vote fatboy slim, never thought to compare the two. Some bits of Entroducing always kinda annoyed me...

Anyway for sampling it's always amon tobin for me...

for the record no, this is not a troll thread.

i can get all intellectual, but... well

OK, I'll get a bit intellectual.

both artists are largely sample based. the purpose of the thread title was to draw attention to the near consensual acceptance of the opinion that DJ Shadow is/was a great artist and Fatboy Slim is an outdated 90s jokester making beat music for retards. I am challenging this widely accepted and never questioned criticism with this thread. I believe Fatboy Slim and other 'breakbeat/ big beat' musicians were artists as well.

Fatboy Slim in particular has a pretty bad rap. At some point it seems like people started thinking of his music as a novelty/joke. Of course it kind of invites that with the fun genre blending. However, I am arguing that his music has a great deal of 'artistry' going on behind the scenes. I would argue that "Praise You" is as good a song [in a different way] than the best tracks on Entroducing... ["What Does Your Soul Look Like"]

Of course the songs on Entroducing... are based around a smooth and cool feel. They do not approach 'big' or 'rocking' sounds as Fatboy does on YCALWB. I think Fatboy carries out his end of the bargain just as well as DJ Shadow carries out his. I think that Fatboy was talented and smart enough that he could have probably created Entroducing... had he wanted to. In fact. based on the standard levels of weakness on post Entroducing Shadow, I wonder if he would have been as successful trying to replicate YCALWB

Regarding Entroducing..., of course, it's a classic and amazing. I don't think anybody really disputes that. In fact, it is more difficult to champion someone like Fatboy Slim.

I'm a huge advocate of the big beat sound from the 90s. I think it produced some of the flat out greatest music ever. People think it's just this bombastic stupid shit for dancing, but alot of the time it's really quite well made and thought out. Check my mix in my signature for some weird old big beat tape that I found. It's got me thinking about this stuff. Listen to "Praise You." Just because it sounds effortless doesn't mean it was effortless.

  On 6/9/2011 at 3:16 AM, kaini said:

  On 6/9/2011 at 2:37 AM, vamos scorcho said:

this is a Fatboy Slim thread guys. listen to "Praise You" and tell me that isn't art

 

well then why is it called 'You've Come a Long Way Baby VS. Entroducing'?

you can't ask watmm's opinion, then get pissed off when it doesn't coincide with yours.

I'm not pissed off at all! Sarcastic maybe, but probably not even that.

The Chemical Brothers were the coolest group that ever existed. This simply can't be disputed in my mind right now.

They made abstract electronic pop songs that actually became popular in America... that had no real melodies or lyrics or singing for the most part, just samples.

"Block Rockin Beats" is a true work of art. It was played on radios. Does it sound like a pop song to anybody? It sounds like some noisey experimental electronic shit on top of gigantic breaks. The sounds during the chorus challenge Autechre in some ways, in terms of the electronic noisiness of them. I don't think it gets any cooler in music than having an electronic based song this abstract being played on the radio around the world.

Enough talking authoritatively. I'm quite arrogant and confident in my views on the 90s big beat happenings and it often seems like I'm very much in the minority. It just astounds me that music this brilliant and loud and most of all... electronically instrumental... was ever popular.

You have passion and WATMM can't take that away from you.