The Book of Mormon

  On 6/27/2011 at 2:00 PM, dr lopez said:

on the flip side tho, props to L. Ron Hubbard for being all like "why is prophecy a dead art? I'll just make some crazy shit up and see if people believe it."

 

he's laughing all the way to the bank.

i don't care about knocking mormons, just that there are a bunch in my family tree....

Yeah, congrats, Mormons, on drumming up support for Prop 8, you're all super good people.

Would somebody like to share why they think the idea of polygamy is such a frowned upon thing. It seems harmless.

I've been seeing a fair amount of disapproval and can't imagine why.

Why don't you talk to a 14 year old child bride about it.

  On 6/27/2011 at 8:54 PM, Wall Bird said:

Would somebody like to share why they think the idea of polygamy is such a frowned upon thing. It seems harmless.

 

I've been seeing a fair amount of disapproval and can't imagine why.

Let's turn it around a bit and say that your wife decided she wanted more than one husband. Would you be cool with it?

meh, believing in one invisible sky wizard is just as wacky as believing in some other one (or the same one, with slightly wackier rules)

  On 6/27/2011 at 9:30 PM, kaini said:

meh, believing in one invisible sky wizard is just as wacky as believing in some other one (or the same one, with slightly wackier rules)

This, too.

ZEUS PATER JUPITER DEUS PATER

At least he's not turning into a swan and raping as much these days.

  On 6/27/2011 at 9:22 PM, xxx said:

Know about Mormons because Missouri outlawed them and hunted them out West. Also, the Center Of Zion is in my back yard (Independence, MO.), holla at your boy, party in my crib @Second Coming when it will become the newfound Garden Of Eden woop woop

In the event of the rapture, that thing will turn into a giant mechanized tank/drill and burrow into the earth to save the Mormons from the wrath of God for not being the correct sect of Christian. Always gotta have a plan B.

  On 6/27/2011 at 8:57 PM, baph said:

Why don't you talk to a 14 year old child bride about it.

That seems to be a question of whether or not marriage to fourteen-year-olds is appropriate, not the quantity of people that one may marry. Does marriage to young people relate to the debate about polygamy? Are they forced/arranged marriages?

  On 6/27/2011 at 9:11 PM, patternoverlap said:

  On 6/27/2011 at 8:54 PM, Wall Bird said:

Would somebody like to share why they think the idea of polygamy is such a frowned upon thing. It seems harmless.

 

I've been seeing a fair amount of disapproval and can't imagine why.

 

Let's turn it around a bit and say that your wife decided she wanted more than one husband. Would you be cool with it?

Some people will be cool with that. Some people will not be. It's up to those in the relationship to come to their own understanding and agreement.

Once they resolve that issue a more important question arises: Why should polygamy be illegal when there is consent between all parties?

bargaining power

I bet the reason monogamous marriage was invented in the first place was so you KNOW that kid is your kid. At least you would hope. If you are one of 5 husbands and your shared wife gets knocked up, you'll want a DNA test before deciding to stick around I'm sure. But really, fuck that altogether.

  On 6/27/2011 at 9:30 PM, kaini said:

meh, believing in one invisible sky wizard is just as wacky as believing in some other one (or the same one, with slightly wackier rules)

This can be said about Scientology, but everyone feels the need to hate on them over anyone. Religionlol.

I imagine having multiple spouses would create some legal complexities as well.

I practice polygynecology. I like nothing better than to sit in the middle of a circle of women in stirrups.

  On 6/28/2011 at 6:11 AM, Murveman said:

  On 6/27/2011 at 9:30 PM, kaini said:

meh, believing in one invisible sky wizard is just as wacky as believing in some other one (or the same one, with slightly wackier rules)

This can be said about Scientology, but everyone feels the need to hate on them over anyone. Religionlol.

edit: scientology is a money-making scheme which requires you to pay out to reach the next level of awareness/knowledge/enlightenment/etc, so that argument isn't quite the same.

  On 6/28/2011 at 6:51 PM, KY said:

  On 6/28/2011 at 6:11 AM, Murveman said:

  On 6/27/2011 at 9:30 PM, kaini said:

meh, believing in one invisible sky wizard is just as wacky as believing in some other one (or the same one, with slightly wackier rules)

This can be said about Scientology, but everyone feels the need to hate on them over anyone. Religionlol.

edit: scientology is a money-making scheme which requires you to pay out to reach the next level of awareness/knowledge/enlightenment/etc, so that argument isn't quite the same.

if you're a mormon and you don't give the church 10% of your income after taxes you can't go to the temple, can't save your dead ancestors, can't receive endowments, can't be temple-married, and all of this ultimately means you cannot get into the celestial kingdom of heaven and get your own planet...

yeah, that's pretty shitty, but it really doesn't hold a candle to scilons extracting literally hundreds of thousands of dollars from people to lvl up. for me, anyway.

Yea, but to my knowledge, you don't have to level up. I enjoy Scientology because I don't find it as rule intensive and condescending as the Abrahamic religions. While they live by The Way to Happiness (You will be happy if you follow these basic steps), Christians, for example, are supposed to follow the 10 Commandments (God will hate you if you don't follow these steps).

I also like Beck's quote, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beck#Scientology

Either way, I'm going to remain religion-less, but I think Scientology gets a lot of unneeded shit flung at them. I blame Southpark.

any religion that asks for your $$$ is not a religion, it's a business (which is, in fact, what the scilons are in a number of countries).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientology_and_the_legal_system

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Snow_White

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Freakout

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Clambake

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Lisa_McPherson

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xenu

these people are scam artists and gangsters. as deluded and exploitative as he was, i would take a hundred joseph smiths over one elron.

I actually had some sneaky scientologist recruiters in my high school; they thought they could backdoor me into scientology by getting me hooked on L Bob Rife L Ron Hubbard's straight SF novels.

I read about 10 pages and swore of religion forever.

Lol, You win this round. Cross that off of list of decent religions. I wasn't aware of those outright scams.

Yes yes, I know about Xenu, as ridiculous as other invisible sky wizards imo, so that was never a turn off.

But yea, too many scams. Guess I can only respect Jainism at this point.

when i used live in amsterdam, occasionally me and a few mates used get as high as we possibly could and then drop into the local scilon brainwashing centre for the lulz. way before chanology or any of that shit. i guess i'm a chanology hipster.

  On 6/29/2011 at 1:42 AM, kaini said:

these people are scam artists and gangsters. as deluded and exploitative as he was, i would take a hundred joseph smiths over one elron.

yeah but i'd take a hundred elrons over brigham young.

i mean i think he's basically what elron wanted to be. governor of a state, ruled with an iron theocratic fist, had people killed on a whim, and married 55 women...