An interesting film study of the Overlook Hotel in the Shining

  On 7/27/2011 at 7:21 AM, zazen said:

Would be better if the video wss narrated by Ulillillia

he probably would have kept it more concise.

  On 7/27/2011 at 4:33 AM, lumpenprol said:

for example scatman opening the door with one hand in one scene, then switching to the other for the reverse shot. That doesn't make me uneasy, it makes me think Kubrick was sloppy, which I feel pretty sure was the case.

 

Same here. Just strikes me as a continuity error. This video is reaching a little bit, as good as Kubrick was. I'd be more likely to believe it was intentional if he opened the door with his left hand, then the camera angle changed to show him opening a car door with his right hand, then the three of them getting in, then they drive over a rainbow.

I think the impossible hallway doors and confusing sense of where all the rooms are and how they connect to eachother are deliberate. Obviously the maze changed 3 times so that has to be deliberate too.

God those twins are creepy.

Ive allways been a fan of Rob ager's video analisis videos on youtube

(Best thread ever)

  On 7/26/2011 at 11:01 PM, Coalbucket PI said:

Looks immensely interesting but I actually have to watch The Shining again before I want to watch this

god i'm quoting you again, in the space of 10 minutes. Anyway, i agree. film first, ask questions later.

it was so clever and disorienting that it took over 30 years to discover by someone making an exact map for a video game.

i always wanted that funky hall carpet.

it seems to me that, at least in the case of the impossible doors on the floor above the colorado lounge, there was a desired symmetry in the layout of the hallway set. it makes for more compelling viewing and allows the viewer to stay concentrated on danny as he rides around on his big wheel, as opposed to having a blank wall on the left/right (respectively) sides of the shot disrupt the horizontal balance.

eh? the gold room is pretty perplexing though, i definitely have to agree there. and why, i wonder, were there stairs leading up to the apartment entrance just inside the door? that could have been deliberate, and is sneaky no doubt.

  On 7/27/2011 at 9:14 AM, Obel said:

  On 7/27/2011 at 4:33 AM, lumpenprol said:

for example scatman opening the door with one hand in one scene, then switching to the other for the reverse shot. That doesn't make me uneasy, it makes me think Kubrick was sloppy, which I feel pretty sure was the case.

 

 

Same here. Just strikes me as a continuity error. This video is reaching a little bit, as good as Kubrick was. I'd be more likely to believe it was intentional if he opened the door with his left hand, then the camera angle changed to show him opening a car door with his right hand, then the three of them getting in, then they drive over a rainbow.

Agreed.

Also, had Kubrick been as anal about details in his movies as the guy makes it seems then he probably wouldn't have allowed one of the opening shots to have a clearly visible shadow of the helicopter flying over the landscape. Or maybe it's just there to confuse us so we're like, 'huh? Helicopters? What? Omfg, nobody told me about any helicopters?'.

  On 7/27/2011 at 5:38 PM, Squee said:

  On 7/27/2011 at 9:14 AM, Obel said:

  On 7/27/2011 at 4:33 AM, lumpenprol said:

for example scatman opening the door with one hand in one scene, then switching to the other for the reverse shot. That doesn't make me uneasy, it makes me think Kubrick was sloppy, which I feel pretty sure was the case.

 

 

Same here. Just strikes me as a continuity error. This video is reaching a little bit, as good as Kubrick was. I'd be more likely to believe it was intentional if he opened the door with his left hand, then the camera angle changed to show him opening a car door with his right hand, then the three of them getting in, then they drive over a rainbow.

 

Agreed.

Also, had Kubrick been as anal about details in his movies as the guy makes it seems then he probably wouldn't have allowed one of the opening shots to have a clearly visible shadow of the helicopter flying over the landscape. Or maybe it's just there to confuse us so we're like, 'huh? Helicopters? What? Omfg, nobody told me about any helicopters?'.

If you listen very carefully in that scene you can here someone yelling "Get some!"

making duke nukem levels was some serious shit back in the day. i made my house once. took me all summer to do.

Yeah Fred, it was all about the sectors!!

  On 7/27/2011 at 5:38 PM, Squee said:

  On 7/27/2011 at 9:14 AM, Obel said:

  On 7/27/2011 at 4:33 AM, lumpenprol said:

for example scatman opening the door with one hand in one scene, then switching to the other for the reverse shot. That doesn't make me uneasy, it makes me think Kubrick was sloppy, which I feel pretty sure was the case.

 

 

Same here. Just strikes me as a continuity error. This video is reaching a little bit, as good as Kubrick was. I'd be more likely to believe it was intentional if he opened the door with his left hand, then the camera angle changed to show him opening a car door with his right hand, then the three of them getting in, then they drive over a rainbow.

 

Agreed.

Also, had Kubrick been as anal about details in his movies as the guy makes it seems then he probably wouldn't have allowed one of the opening shots to have a clearly visible shadow of the helicopter flying over the landscape. Or maybe it's just there to confuse us so we're like, 'huh? Helicopters? What? Omfg, nobody told me about any helicopters?'.

not that i disagree with you but helicopters do fly around and cast shadows. could've got another helicopter to film the other, to make the scene more dramatic...

  On 7/27/2011 at 6:30 PM, patternoverlap said:

  On 7/27/2011 at 5:38 PM, Squee said:

  On 7/27/2011 at 9:14 AM, Obel said:

  On 7/27/2011 at 4:33 AM, lumpenprol said:

for example scatman opening the door with one hand in one scene, then switching to the other for the reverse shot. That doesn't make me uneasy, it makes me think Kubrick was sloppy, which I feel pretty sure was the case.

 

 

Same here. Just strikes me as a continuity error. This video is reaching a little bit, as good as Kubrick was. I'd be more likely to believe it was intentional if he opened the door with his left hand, then the camera angle changed to show him opening a car door with his right hand, then the three of them getting in, then they drive over a rainbow.

 

Agreed.

Also, had Kubrick been as anal about details in his movies as the guy makes it seems then he probably wouldn't have allowed one of the opening shots to have a clearly visible shadow of the helicopter flying over the landscape. Or maybe it's just there to confuse us so we're like, 'huh? Helicopters? What? Omfg, nobody told me about any helicopters?'.

 

If you listen very carefully in that scene you can here someone yelling "Get some!"

I'm just going to assume it's Bill Paxton, too.

  On 7/28/2011 at 7:33 PM, baph said:

  On 7/27/2011 at 6:30 PM, patternoverlap said:

  On 7/27/2011 at 5:38 PM, Squee said:

  On 7/27/2011 at 9:14 AM, Obel said:

  On 7/27/2011 at 4:33 AM, lumpenprol said:

for example scatman opening the door with one hand in one scene, then switching to the other for the reverse shot. That doesn't make me uneasy, it makes me think Kubrick was sloppy, which I feel pretty sure was the case.

 

 

Same here. Just strikes me as a continuity error. This video is reaching a little bit, as good as Kubrick was. I'd be more likely to believe it was intentional if he opened the door with his left hand, then the camera angle changed to show him opening a car door with his right hand, then the three of them getting in, then they drive over a rainbow.

 

Agreed.

Also, had Kubrick been as anal about details in his movies as the guy makes it seems then he probably wouldn't have allowed one of the opening shots to have a clearly visible shadow of the helicopter flying over the landscape. Or maybe it's just there to confuse us so we're like, 'huh? Helicopters? What? Omfg, nobody told me about any helicopters?'.

 

If you listen very carefully in that scene you can here someone yelling "Get some!"

 

I'm just going to assume it's Bill Paxton, too.

do I really need to explain this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S06nIz4scvI

  On 7/27/2011 at 10:10 AM, Craig Anderson said:

Ive allways been a fan of Rob ager's video analisis videos on youtube

yeah the guy who made the video is rob ager, he has some other really good film analysis vids up on youtube (for the shining, full metal jacket, 2001, the big lebowski, among others)...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lEulbcXkgjo

fuck yeah the Shining is one of the best. It never gets old.

Damn...didn't realize an entire thread was dedicated to this very strange YouTube video.

I will post later and even share some of my thoughts, including an exchange with two anti-Kubrick feminists from last year.

Needless to say, it's cute and quite a labor but I find Ager's close textual analysis of the sets of The Shining stultifyingly boring, as though the author were unaware of the most basic ingredients of Hollywood narrative editing.

There's a real house like this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winchester_Mystery_House

Definitely an interesting watch! Seems so level headed and coherent compared to some of the Analysis I've seen of the movie over the years. For instance this. If you ever thought you had too much time on your hands....

What you may or may not have seen..

Yeah so Obel was right, this video is really boring and is almost definitely reading too much into minor things

  On 7/27/2011 at 6:41 PM, Fred McGriff said:

making duke nukem levels was some serious shit back in the day. i made my house once. took me all summer to do.

YES!!

the raise / lower floor tool. amazing.