undeserving people on benefits

labouring on a building site is pretty good pay...maybe £30 - £60 a day, more in some places. factory work, like loading lorries, basic assembly work, metalwork etc usually pays more than average - often £10 per hour and more if you do night shifts.

  On 8/16/2011 at 8:00 PM, oscillik said:

  On 8/16/2011 at 7:55 PM, BCM said:

  On 8/16/2011 at 7:52 PM, oscillik said:

  On 8/16/2011 at 7:51 PM, BCM said:

  On 8/16/2011 at 7:10 PM, messiaen said:

people in this thread will hate me, im on benifits simply because it works out to be more profitable than working.

 

full time work week = about 30-35hrs x £6 so 180-200 quid, then deduct tax to leave 160 a weekish.

 

now consider the dole with housing and council tax benefit, 50 pound per week, plus 300 per month for rent, plus free council tax, plus the ability to work 15 hours a week legally, and also do cash in hand flyering work.

 

so,

 

50 from the dole

70 from the housing

100 from the 15 hours

50-60 from the flyering

 

= about 260, no tax applies due to the dole.

 

this also leaves me plenty of time to get on with my music, excersize, and socialising.

 

 

only a stupid person would work in that situation.

 

er, full time work is actually 40 - 48 hours a week

maybe in London.

 

no, like everywhere - 9 - 5, 5 days a week is 40 hours I think.

ok.

 

W A T M M

you crazy. 9am until 5pm Monday to Friday is 40 hours - what's your problem with that? you saying 9 - 5 Mon - Fri is unrealistic maybe?

edit: or are you taking off lunch breaks?

i'm saying:

W A T M M

  On 8/16/2011 at 8:02 PM, oscillik said:

i'm saying:

 

W A T M M

fucking weirdo

building work is very well paid yes, and you can't just suddenly start doing it

in the states, working 39.9 hours is part time. my sister worked for the county and they didn't offer her benefits because she worked 39.5 hours and thus did not qualify for "part time." it's not some slimy corporation, it's the fucking county government.

this was about 2 years ago though, they have since changed that policy since it's fucking evil.

  On 8/16/2011 at 8:01 PM, BCM said:

labouring on a building site is pretty good pay...maybe £30 - £60 a day, more in some places. factory work, like loading lorries, basic assembly work, metalwork etc usually pays more than average - often £10 per hour and more if you do night shifts.

 

  On 8/16/2011 at 8:00 PM, oscillik said:

  On 8/16/2011 at 7:55 PM, BCM said:

  On 8/16/2011 at 7:52 PM, oscillik said:

  On 8/16/2011 at 7:51 PM, BCM said:

  On 8/16/2011 at 7:10 PM, messiaen said:

people in this thread will hate me, im on benifits simply because it works out to be more profitable than working.

 

full time work week = about 30-35hrs x £6 so 180-200 quid, then deduct tax to leave 160 a weekish.

 

now consider the dole with housing and council tax benefit, 50 pound per week, plus 300 per month for rent, plus free council tax, plus the ability to work 15 hours a week legally, and also do cash in hand flyering work.

 

so,

 

50 from the dole

70 from the housing

100 from the 15 hours

50-60 from the flyering

 

= about 260, no tax applies due to the dole.

 

this also leaves me plenty of time to get on with my music, excersize, and socialising.

 

 

only a stupid person would work in that situation.

 

er, full time work is actually 40 - 48 hours a week

maybe in London.

 

no, like everywhere - 9 - 5, 5 days a week is 40 hours I think.

ok.

 

W A T M M

 

you crazy. 9am until 5pm Monday to Friday is 40 hours - what's your problem with that? you saying 9 - 5 Mon - Fri is unrealistic maybe?

 

edit: or are you taking off lunch breaks?

http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Employment/Employees/Flexibleworking/DG_10027738

"There is no specific number of hours that makes someone full or part-time, but a full-time worker will usually work 35 hours or more a week."

like i said. W A T M M (which translates to: know-it-all-but-know-fuck-all)

  On 8/16/2011 at 8:05 PM, tauboo said:

building work is very well paid yes, and you can't just suddenly start doing it

yeah you can! labouring anyway - like, sweeping out new buildings, carting mud around in a wheelbarrow (and up a very narrow slippery plank into a skip), digging footings, mixing cement.... you can usually find jobs doing that shit pretty quickly from my experience, especially if you can find a specialist agency that caters for manual labour at short notice.

  On 8/16/2011 at 8:07 PM, oscillik said:

  On 8/16/2011 at 8:01 PM, BCM said:

labouring on a building site is pretty good pay...maybe £30 - £60 a day, more in some places. factory work, like loading lorries, basic assembly work, metalwork etc usually pays more than average - often £10 per hour and more if you do night shifts.

 

  On 8/16/2011 at 8:00 PM, oscillik said:

  On 8/16/2011 at 7:55 PM, BCM said:

  On 8/16/2011 at 7:52 PM, oscillik said:

  On 8/16/2011 at 7:51 PM, BCM said:

  On 8/16/2011 at 7:10 PM, messiaen said:

people in this thread will hate me, im on benifits simply because it works out to be more profitable than working.

 

full time work week = about 30-35hrs x £6 so 180-200 quid, then deduct tax to leave 160 a weekish.

 

now consider the dole with housing and council tax benefit, 50 pound per week, plus 300 per month for rent, plus free council tax, plus the ability to work 15 hours a week legally, and also do cash in hand flyering work.

 

so,

 

50 from the dole

70 from the housing

100 from the 15 hours

50-60 from the flyering

 

= about 260, no tax applies due to the dole.

 

this also leaves me plenty of time to get on with my music, excersize, and socialising.

 

 

only a stupid person would work in that situation.

 

er, full time work is actually 40 - 48 hours a week

maybe in London.

 

no, like everywhere - 9 - 5, 5 days a week is 40 hours I think.

ok.

 

W A T M M

 

you crazy. 9am until 5pm Monday to Friday is 40 hours - what's your problem with that? you saying 9 - 5 Mon - Fri is unrealistic maybe?

 

edit: or are you taking off lunch breaks?

http://www.direct.go...ing/DG_10027738

 

"There is no specific number of hours that makes someone full or part-time, but a full-time worker will usually work 35 hours or more a week."

 

like i said. W A T M M (which translates to: know-it-all-but-know-fuck-all)

so what, most people work 9 - 5, or more usually 9 - 5.30 (or whatever combination of 8 - 9 hours a day you care to mention for that matter). that's full time. i don't care about the official definition of full or part time, i'm not arguing over that, just that messaien's definition of full time might mean he's in for a nasty surprise if he ever gets a job.

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know-it-all-but-know-fuck-all

by posting this you're kind of asserting that you in fact, do know know it all, which is contradictory to the point of posting it in the first place.

  On 8/16/2011 at 8:08 PM, BCM said:

  On 8/16/2011 at 8:05 PM, tauboo said:

building work is very well paid yes, and you can't just suddenly start doing it

 

yeah you can! labouring anyway - like, sweeping out new buildings, carting mud around in a wheelbarrow (and up a very narrow slippery plank into a skip), digging footings, mixing cement.... you can usually find jobs doing that shit pretty quickly from my experience, especially if you can find a specialist agency that caters for manual labour at short notice.

weird. i had to have enough experience and also go through various tests and stuff to do catering agency work. often doing the most basic, grinding stuff and they pay fuck all.

also i dont know how this guy is on £800 p/m with just a bum leg

ive never received more than £360 p/m even when i was fully agoraphobic and unable to leave my house

what the fuck is this guy wangling?

  On 8/16/2011 at 8:08 PM, BCM said:

  On 8/16/2011 at 8:05 PM, tauboo said:

building work is very well paid yes, and you can't just suddenly start doing it

 

yeah you can! labouring anyway - like, sweeping out new buildings, carting mud around in a wheelbarrow (and up a very narrow slippery plank into a skip), digging footings, mixing cement.... you can usually find jobs doing that shit pretty quickly from my experience, especially if you can find a specialist agency that caters for manual labour at short notice.

dude i'm so above manual labor

  On 8/16/2011 at 8:14 PM, tauboo said:

  On 8/16/2011 at 8:08 PM, BCM said:

  On 8/16/2011 at 8:05 PM, tauboo said:

building work is very well paid yes, and you can't just suddenly start doing it

 

yeah you can! labouring anyway - like, sweeping out new buildings, carting mud around in a wheelbarrow (and up a very narrow slippery plank into a skip), digging footings, mixing cement.... you can usually find jobs doing that shit pretty quickly from my experience, especially if you can find a specialist agency that caters for manual labour at short notice.

weird. i had to have enough experience and also go through various tests and stuff to do catering agency work. often doing the most basic, grinding stuff and they pay fuck all.

i suppose that's because of the food handling aspect? i used to go to this agency in peterborough years ago called Taskforce and they'd get you a fucking job in a matter of hours, usually good pay, if you were willing to work hard and do anything. i reckon they're still going (just checked, they are) and there's got to be loads of similar agencies about - manual work innit? people love that shit.

bcm, i'm kind of wondering if you did that years ago.. and it's not that simple anymore. do you have any recent experience or knowledge of it?

edit: well i'll look in to it. although i might be too weak.

  On 8/16/2011 at 8:22 PM, BCM said:

  On 8/16/2011 at 8:14 PM, tauboo said:

  On 8/16/2011 at 8:08 PM, BCM said:

  On 8/16/2011 at 8:05 PM, tauboo said:

building work is very well paid yes, and you can't just suddenly start doing it

 

yeah you can! labouring anyway - like, sweeping out new buildings, carting mud around in a wheelbarrow (and up a very narrow slippery plank into a skip), digging footings, mixing cement.... you can usually find jobs doing that shit pretty quickly from my experience, especially if you can find a specialist agency that caters for manual labour at short notice.

weird. i had to have enough experience and also go through various tests and stuff to do catering agency work. often doing the most basic, grinding stuff and they pay fuck all.

 

i suppose that's because of the food handling aspect? i used to go to this agency in peterborough years ago called Taskforce and they'd get you a fucking job in a matter of hours, usually good pay, if you were willing to work hard and do anything. i reckon they're still going (just checked, they are) and there's got to be loads of similar agencies about - manual work innit? people love that shit.

Things are very different. Every day it becomes more difficult to obtain a job.

most recent experience with taskforce would be in about 2000, but i've got mates who still do all that kind of stuff and get paid well. and the process is largely the same i believe - i.e. put your name down with 2 or 3 manual labour agencies one day, get a call at 6am the next morning from some bloke in a van on his way to your house coming to take you to work at an undisclosed location. it's a right headfuck.

  On 8/16/2011 at 8:14 PM, theSun said:

  On 8/16/2011 at 8:08 PM, BCM said:

  On 8/16/2011 at 8:05 PM, tauboo said:

building work is very well paid yes, and you can't just suddenly start doing it

 

yeah you can! labouring anyway - like, sweeping out new buildings, carting mud around in a wheelbarrow (and up a very narrow slippery plank into a skip), digging footings, mixing cement.... you can usually find jobs doing that shit pretty quickly from my experience, especially if you can find a specialist agency that caters for manual labour at short notice.

 

dude i'm so above working

hm, quite

that's better thann getting a text at 6 am and having to find your way to a disclosed location anywhere within a city by walking and/or using public transport and google maps ASAP (and by asap they mean 45 mins) (edit: and texts don't wake you up so being up at that time every day of the week is required) ... i mean, being driven there is cool

yeah, fuck it, fuck work. the world's gone mad.

  On 8/16/2011 at 7:10 PM, messiaen said:

only a stupid person would work in that situation.

Yes and only complete morons would think that work is about other things than just making money.

Like having a little sense of respect for yourself because you actually earn the money you are getting, no matter how little you get paid.

Also there's absolutely no possibility of getting a bit more money after a while because the wage that's advertised in a job offer is how much you will be making forever, especially if you try to show a bit of competence or work ethic.

Idiot.

  On 8/16/2011 at 8:35 PM, KY said:

  On 8/16/2011 at 8:14 PM, theSun said:

  On 8/16/2011 at 8:08 PM, BCM said:

  On 8/16/2011 at 8:05 PM, tauboo said:

building work is very well paid yes, and you can't just suddenly start doing it

 

yeah you can! labouring anyway - like, sweeping out new buildings, carting mud around in a wheelbarrow (and up a very narrow slippery plank into a skip), digging footings, mixing cement.... you can usually find jobs doing that shit pretty quickly from my experience, especially if you can find a specialist agency that caters for manual labour at short notice.

 

dude i'm so above working

hm, quite

i see what you did there...

and i don't like it

In no way is unemployment or any similar, government-subsidized plan a better option than any job that pays even slightly more, imo. But then again, I'm speaking as a privileged careerman, so who knows

  On 8/16/2011 at 8:46 PM, 277: 930-933 said:

only complete morons would think that work is about other things than just making money.

Like having a little sense of respect for yourself because you actually earn the money you are getting, no matter how little you get paid.

Also there's absolutely no possibility of getting a bit more money after a while because the wage that's advertised in a job offer is how much you will be making forever, especially if you try to show a bit of competence or work ethic.

Idiot.

michael jackson is eating ghost popcorn as we speak

fact of the matter is if you work, apply yourself and don't just fuck around, you will be able to make an OK living. this is unacceptable for a lot of people.

  On 8/15/2011 at 6:01 PM, keltoi said:

and got to this part which made my blood boil...

 

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Goodwin, who has a £70 per week cannabis habit and receives £800 a month in benefits...

  On 8/16/2011 at 4:12 PM, theSun said:

just to clarify, i don't bitch when poor people have a tv, i bitch when poor people have a 60" tv and pay $70 a month for cable.

it occurred to me that if you grow up ugly, dumb, and underprivileged, you really do need TV and/or lots of weed, if only to take you away from your shit life !!

said another way: i doubt people living like this are really happy with their lives. they're just taking pleasures where they can find them.

i bet i'm not really happy with my life either (not enough ferraris, hot pockets, sluts etc). doesn't mean i deserve handouts.