Guest Backson Posted February 2, 2012 Report Share Posted February 2, 2012 On 2/1/2012 at 4:01 PM, chimera slot mom said: Regarding lube's post, I'm not surprised. Virtually the same thing happened with Justice's debut album, they were graphic designers with an attitude, backed by a small army of top notch producers. Hang on, you're full of shit here. I can't think of any associated producers with a sound similar enough so I would say that claiming they were ghost produced is essentially distaste for them attempting to take on solid form without evidence. You could claim that they were aggressively marketed or overhyped or whatever, but if you are implying that they were constructed by shadow producers then you are wrong. there is nothing to imply this is true. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/68627-harshest-musician-on-musician-insults-in-history/page/7/#findComment-1746105 Share on other sites More sharing options...
awepittance Posted February 2, 2012 Report Share Posted February 2, 2012 wow, that Lube Saibot posts makes me excited everytime i read it, whatever happened to 'MrSparkle666' lol Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide awepittance's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/68627-harshest-musician-on-musician-insults-in-history/page/7/#findComment-1746122 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ascdi Posted February 2, 2012 Report Share Posted February 2, 2012 On 2/2/2012 at 3:04 AM, Backson said: You could claim that they were aggressively marketed or overhyped or whatever, but if you are implying that they were constructed by shadow producers then you are wrong. there is nothing to imply this is true. Didn't they play several shows with like, entirely unplugged MIDI controllers? I barely remember; I'm honestly just asking. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/68627-harshest-musician-on-musician-insults-in-history/page/7/#findComment-1746123 Share on other sites More sharing options...
awepittance Posted February 2, 2012 Report Share Posted February 2, 2012 On 2/2/2012 at 3:23 AM, Ascdi said: On 2/2/2012 at 3:04 AM, Backson said: You could claim that they were aggressively marketed or overhyped or whatever, but if you are implying that they were constructed by shadow producers then you are wrong. there is nothing to imply this is true. Didn't they play several shows with like, entirely unplugged MIDI controllers? I barely remember; I'm honestly just asking. yes they did, id love to hear a Saibot breakdown of why Justice are faking it. the only piece of evidence i have to suggest they arent faking it is that Oizo collaborated with one of the members on the Rubber soundtrack. Unless Oizo was trying to pretend like Justice are actual producers i see no other reason for him to collaborate with somebody whos been ghost produced. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide awepittance's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/68627-harshest-musician-on-musician-insults-in-history/page/7/#findComment-1746125 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Backson Posted February 2, 2012 Report Share Posted February 2, 2012 (edited) they did a DJ set and someone snapped a photo of one of the controllers unpugged. but the next photo was taken a second after and it was him plugging it back in. i'm not expert, but I don't think that's evidence either way. maybe they fake, maybe the chord fell out so he had to put it back in? On 2/2/2012 at 3:25 AM, Awepittance said: the only piece of evidence i have to suggest they arent faking it is that Oizo collaborated with one of the members on the Rubber soundtrack. Unless Oizo was trying to pretend like Justice are actual producers i see no other reason for him to collaborate with somebody whos been ghost produced. what do you mean "the only peice of evidence"? You don't have any evidence or even motivation in FAVOUR of that arguement, the general evidence against would be "common sense". this is ridiculous. is it that hard to believe a producer you aren't fond of makes heir own music? or does not liking something become its own arguement beyond rationalisation or proof? Edited February 2, 2012 by Backson Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/68627-harshest-musician-on-musician-insults-in-history/page/7/#findComment-1746127 Share on other sites More sharing options...
awepittance Posted February 2, 2012 Report Share Posted February 2, 2012 i was half joking when i said that, but it was the first thing that came to mind as a counter to the original posters assertion. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide awepittance's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/68627-harshest-musician-on-musician-insults-in-history/page/7/#findComment-1746131 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Backson Posted February 2, 2012 Report Share Posted February 2, 2012 okay, soz. get all heated when it comes to justice, yaknow. just want the folks to understand that Cross is Boss, yaknow. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/68627-harshest-musician-on-musician-insults-in-history/page/7/#findComment-1746132 Share on other sites More sharing options...
awepittance Posted February 2, 2012 Report Share Posted February 2, 2012 i do enjoy some of their songs, the only thing that rubs me the wrong way about them is the way they dress ( i know, the superficial old man inside me cant help it) and that they essentially put some side chaining and new drums over a Goblin track and called it their own. I own a copy of crosses too, which im kind of shocked at actually. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide awepittance's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/68627-harshest-musician-on-musician-insults-in-history/page/7/#findComment-1746133 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 2, 2012 Report Share Posted February 2, 2012 On 2/2/2012 at 3:23 AM, Awepittance said: wow, that Lube Saibot posts makes me excited everytime i read it, whatever happened to 'MrSparkle666' lol Does anyone other than me remember how MrSparkle666 claimed that he could tell the difference between 16 & 24 bit, and 44100 & 48000? so fucking ridiculous. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/68627-harshest-musician-on-musician-insults-in-history/page/7/#findComment-1746137 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Forestranger Posted February 2, 2012 Report Share Posted February 2, 2012 (edited) Not that its a stretch, but Metheny on Kenny G. http://www.jazzoasis...enyonkennyg.htm edit: just finished reading it again, couldn't help but think of this haha http://youtu.be/dFXP-eEVVXg Edited February 2, 2012 by Forestranger Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/68627-harshest-musician-on-musician-insults-in-history/page/7/#findComment-1746142 Share on other sites More sharing options...
awepittance Posted February 2, 2012 Report Share Posted February 2, 2012 i have a few friends who tell me they can as well but i've lost the strength to debate them on it Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide awepittance's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/68627-harshest-musician-on-musician-insults-in-history/page/7/#findComment-1746152 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chenGOD Posted February 2, 2012 Report Share Posted February 2, 2012 On 2/1/2012 at 12:08 PM, roasty said: Basically Zomby looped a 1min track from an obscure artist that he 'collabed' with over soundcloud, had it released under his name and made it clear he'd no intentions of crediting the artist http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tiyxPeuBf0M Lulzily, in a recent interview he claimed to have "made it for burial" wait - that passes as a song? oh man that Metheny on kenny g is gold. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide all signatures 백호야~~~항상에 사랑할거예요.나의 아들. Shout outs to the saracens, musulmen and celestials. Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/68627-harshest-musician-on-musician-insults-in-history/page/7/#findComment-1746239 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chim Posted February 2, 2012 Report Share Posted February 2, 2012 (edited) On 2/2/2012 at 3:25 AM, Awepittance said: On 2/2/2012 at 3:23 AM, Ascdi said: On 2/2/2012 at 3:04 AM, Backson said: You could claim that they were aggressively marketed or overhyped or whatever, but if you are implying that they were constructed by shadow producers then you are wrong. there is nothing to imply this is true. Didn't they play several shows with like, entirely unplugged MIDI controllers? I barely remember; I'm honestly just asking. yes they did, id love to hear a Saibot breakdown of why Justice are faking it. the only piece of evidence i have to suggest they arent faking it is that Oizo collaborated with one of the members on the Rubber soundtrack. Unless Oizo was trying to pretend like Justice are actual producers i see no other reason for him to collaborate with somebody whos been ghost produced. i'm not saying they aren't real producers, but they got a lot of help. they can't play live for shit (i'm not sure they can even mix in the studio, fabric rejected their mix), sound like fucking twats whenever they open their mouths, go really big all of a sudden with a sound that's an aggressive mesh of whatever's popular and big at the time, marketed if you will as the perfect package. whenever this happens its fucking stinks to high heaven that whoever it is on the album cover isn't doing much more than getting fucked up and smashing stuff on stage. Edited February 2, 2012 by chimera slot mom Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/68627-harshest-musician-on-musician-insults-in-history/page/7/#findComment-1746333 Share on other sites More sharing options...
danshoebridge Posted February 2, 2012 Report Share Posted February 2, 2012 A new one for the list.... "Trying to work out if I'd rather wank off a dead tramp under a warm waterfall of dogshit for eternity, or be will.i.am for a day" - Theo from Hurts Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/68627-harshest-musician-on-musician-insults-in-history/page/7/#findComment-1746356 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest KY Posted February 2, 2012 Report Share Posted February 2, 2012 On 2/2/2012 at 3:56 PM, chimera slot mom said: On 2/2/2012 at 3:25 AM, Awepittance said: On 2/2/2012 at 3:23 AM, Ascdi said: On 2/2/2012 at 3:04 AM, Backson said: You could claim that they were aggressively marketed or overhyped or whatever, but if you are implying that they were constructed by shadow producers then you are wrong. there is nothing to imply this is true. Didn't they play several shows with like, entirely unplugged MIDI controllers? I barely remember; I'm honestly just asking. yes they did, id love to hear a Saibot breakdown of why Justice are faking it. the only piece of evidence i have to suggest they arent faking it is that Oizo collaborated with one of the members on the Rubber soundtrack. Unless Oizo was trying to pretend like Justice are actual producers i see no other reason for him to collaborate with somebody whos been ghost produced. i'm not saying they aren't real producers, but they got a lot of help. they can't play live for shit (i'm not sure they can even mix in the studio, fabric rejected their mix), sound like fucking twats whenever they open their mouths, go really big all of a sudden with a sound that's an aggressive mesh of whatever's popular and big at the time, marketed if you will as the perfect package. whenever this happens its fucking stinks to high heaven that whoever it is on the album cover isn't doing much more than getting fucked up and smashing stuff on stage. All production and live performance questionability aside, they definitely had their songwriting chops since 2003, when this track came out. And honestly, the production on this track sounds like they were heading in a steady direction towards the sound of †. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/68627-harshest-musician-on-musician-insults-in-history/page/7/#findComment-1746440 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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