Matrix Facepalms

i liked matrix when i first saw it but i've never been able to rewatch it. couldn't watch much of reloaded, and the other one.. i watched it, not attentively though, can't even remember how it ends.

I really loved the first one, at the age of about 15 it was basically pure liquid wonderment to me. I still enjoy it and partly that's because it's comfortable like Star Wars at this point, but it is genuinely good as well. That they manage to get away with some of the dodgy aspects is to it's credit I think. But the content of the sequels suggests they thought the best parts of the first film were the philosophical babble, the romance, the gay goth outfits and invincible people fighting each other. The philosophical stuff was fine when you were left to think about that rather than hearing them from Theodore Logan, the romance was just about okay since it only appeared in the last 5 minutes, the gay goth outfits, well they were fairly gay all along, and invincible deathmatches were only exciting when one of them didn't realise he was invincible yet.

Monica Belluci's tits though I suppose.

less disappointing than the star wars sequels at least

  On 9/26/2011 at 8:26 PM, Joyrex said:

I always thought the freeway chase from the second film was the only redeeming part... there was a great 'making of' showing how they filmed that. Really interesting.

I think I would have enjoyed it more if it wasn't so fucking long..

  On 9/27/2011 at 12:11 AM, Capsaicin said:

Yeah, the dance scene was a bit shit.

and the awkward sex scene

First one was pretty much an awesome sci-fi martial arts/kung-fu movie - which drew(/stole) ideas from anime.

2nd one was still good imo - just a lot of primarily a sci-fi action movie with a lot of cool fx's - with a dash of cheese.

Oh yeah shit I forgot about Animatrix! I should watch them again.

cool things about revolutions:

- goth chick gets impaled

- neo goes blind but then sees the real world as a yellow energy matrix or w/e

- goku style fight with huge water balls exploding all over the place

- spherical robot boss with cool deep voice

I do think that the sequels had some interesting ideas in them, and there's no doubt that there were some visually inspired moments (Neo's 'second sight', the fight in the club in Revolutions when everyone flips upside down), it's just that it was pretty poorly executed.

I think one of the main problems was that the film seemed to get bogged down in its own hype, and style triumphed over substance in the end. I know a lot of people attack the philosophical content for being fairly light, but at least the film had a go at tackling such ideas. One of my favourite scenes from Reloaded is when Neo faces down Col. Sanders near the end; yeah, the Architect may have droned on a bit, but it had a visual flair about it, and there was some substance floating around in there.

The film wasn't helped by producer Joel SIlver making statements such as 'We've raised the bar so high, there is no bar." That kind of talk can only lead to failed expectations.

Nobody has mentioned the shite CGI humans they put in the sequels, they looked terrible and encouraged them to make all the fights ten times too ridiculous for them to hold my attention. Particularly half way through the first (sigh) billion Smiths fight when Neo turns into a video game character and also a pretty disastrous slo-mo one where an agent jumps on a moving car bonnet.

Haha, right on, those were terrible. CGI stunt men always make me shift uncomfortably in my seat.

Ah, but who could forget this classic:

I thought the original Matrix was very entertaining and stylistic, but nothing philosophically groundbreaking. I liked the second film purely based on the action, but the third one was shit.

  On 9/27/2011 at 9:05 PM, Braintree said:

I thought the original Matrix was very entertaining and stylistic, but nothing philosophically groundbreaking. I liked the second film purely based on the action, but the third one was shit.

/thread... that perfectly sums up the movies.

wait, so the thread is officially closed now? bummer

It may not be philosophically ground breaking when you look at all the actual science theories that are out there, however it does reach to a far greater audience, so for that I give it credit.

Also it has the letters R-I-X in that order, so I'm generally happy.

indeed, i have always read it as matRIX

imho

my friend Matrix is always happy