Skrillex - Discuss, Debate, Praise, Hate

  On 3/30/2012 at 1:52 AM, oscillik said:

but he is actually a watmmer

what's her screen name then?

KAEN

  On 3/30/2012 at 1:59 AM, kaen said:

KAEN

Hi skrillex :)

screename : sonny

  On 3/30/2012 at 2:05 AM, oscillik said:

screename : sonny

hmm...

Is sonny actually skrillex?

  On 3/30/2012 at 2:01 AM, StephenG said:

  On 3/30/2012 at 1:59 AM, kaen said:

KAEN

 

Hi skrillex :)

sup

lol

heh... thats awesome

  On 3/30/2012 at 2:07 AM, StephenG said:

  On 3/30/2012 at 2:05 AM, oscillik said:

screename : sonny

 

hmm...

 

Is sonny actually skrillex?

What a loaded question. How much is skrillex a separate persona? Or is skrillex just a cute pen name? Is Richard David James only Aphex Twin in the same way Richard Dean Anderson is MacGyver? Is Leonard Nimoy Spock or Not Spock?

Oh shit, you just meant the username. Soz

  On 3/30/2012 at 2:50 AM, baph said:

  On 3/30/2012 at 2:07 AM, StephenG said:

  On 3/30/2012 at 2:05 AM, oscillik said:

screename : sonny

 

hmm...

 

Is sonny actually skrillex?

 

What a loaded question. How much is skrillex a separate persona? Or is skrillex just a cute pen name? Is Richard David James only Aphex Twin in the same way Richard Dean Anderson is MacGyver? Is Leonard Nimoy Spock or Not Spock?

 

 

Oh shit, you just meant the username. Soz

:cerious:

Well, the blood tests are in. It's just as I had feared...

Skrillex is my illegitimate child. Stop making fun of my son.

i highly doubt sonny is sonny.

  On 3/29/2012 at 9:25 PM, Kanakori said:

That logic is flawed, because both sides are not equal. Appreciators of "good music" (that can translate to any erudite genre) by norm know alot more music than any justin bieber fan and actually do/did alot of research.

im only cat my logic is flaw

  On 3/30/2012 at 3:33 AM, Hoodie said:

i highly doubt sonny is Candiru's sonny.

  On 3/30/2012 at 2:07 AM, StephenG said:

  On 3/30/2012 at 2:05 AM, oscillik said:

screename : sonny

 

hmm...

 

Is sonny actually skrillex?

no, pretty sure its

http://soundcloud.com/dlsmusic

  On 3/29/2012 at 7:37 PM, StephenG said:

  On 3/29/2012 at 7:35 PM, CraniumXII said:

  On 3/29/2012 at 6:57 PM, StephenG said:

All I mean is, I understand that LIKING music is subjective. Everyone LIKES different things. But this just means some people like shittier music. I personally think you CAN measure quality through a variety of criteria.

 

Yeah, I'm with u. It can be argued that because Squarepusher plays a variety of different instruments and has a deep understanding of music theory, that he's obviously a better musician than Skrilks... As a result, his personality comes through the music clearly. It comes more naturally...That form of expression is art. The Flahblub, is an example of having a high degree of musical knowledge, but his music at times can feel over produced and too methodical (over thought)... and I think he's a million times the musician/producer that Skrillex is.

 

I think Skrillex, for being relatively new to the electronic music scene, has some potential. Time will tell if he can create some genuinely good, unique choonz. But it will come at the cost of some fame... because the majority of people aren't well versed in music theory, and have probably never taken a music appreciation class... So anything to far out there, will just confuse the masses (Autechre?).

 

Yes this is exactly what I was getting at! Thank you.

As far as I can tell, you guys are making two completely different points and agreeing with each other. You're basically saying anyone who likes anything about him (skrillex) they immediately have a shitty taste in music. I think it's not impossible to imagine there being people out there who like his music and like a lot of the same groups you do, unless you don't care for anything on this board. Just seems like a bullshit generalization to justify your own tastes. Cranium seems like he's trying to point out how squarepusher has a deep understanding of musical theory and is obviously a better musician, and you can tell it in his music? And that they teach this kind of music in musical appreciation courses that i've never heard about? Anyways, I think you're both fanboy grouping and would like someone to point out my misunderstanding. I know im not helping this shitty thread but some of the shit i'm reading seems full of untruths and implications

  On 3/30/2012 at 5:48 AM, david said:

  On 3/29/2012 at 7:37 PM, StephenG said:

  On 3/29/2012 at 7:35 PM, CraniumXII said:

  On 3/29/2012 at 6:57 PM, StephenG said:

All I mean is, I understand that LIKING music is subjective. Everyone LIKES different things. But this just means some people like shittier music. I personally think you CAN measure quality through a variety of criteria.

 

Yeah, I'm with u. It can be argued that because Squarepusher plays a variety of different instruments and has a deep understanding of music theory, that he's obviously a better musician than Skrilks... As a result, his personality comes through the music clearly. It comes more naturally...That form of expression is art. The Flahblub, is an example of having a high degree of musical knowledge, but his music at times can feel over produced and too methodical (over thought)... and I think he's a million times the musician/producer that Skrillex is.

 

I think Skrillex, for being relatively new to the electronic music scene, has some potential. Time will tell if he can create some genuinely good, unique choonz. But it will come at the cost of some fame... because the majority of people aren't well versed in music theory, and have probably never taken a music appreciation class... So anything to far out there, will just confuse the masses (Autechre?).

 

Yes this is exactly what I was getting at! Thank you.

 

As far as I can tell, you guys are making two completely different points and agreeing with each other. You're basically saying anyone who likes anything about him (skrillex) they immediately have a shitty taste in music. I think it's not impossible to imagine there being people out there who like his music and like a lot of the same groups you do, unless you don't care for anything on this board. Just seems like a bullshit generalization to justify your own tastes. Cranium seems like he's trying to point out how squarepusher has a deep understanding of musical theory and is obviously a better musician, and you can tell it in his music? And that they teach this kind of music in musical appreciation courses that i've never heard about? Anyways, I think you're both fanboy grouping and would like someone to point out my misunderstanding. I know im not helping this shitty thread but some of the shit i'm reading seems full of untruths and implications

My point is that music quality can be measured with actual criteria. His point is that squarepusher (as an example) is clearly better because he has a deeper understanding of musical theory and can apply it more professionaly (AKA a criteria).

I don't see how those are two different things. Enlighten me.

Additionally, I don't need to justify my tastes. I have an educated approach to music and other related subjects (taste, management theory, etc) and I seek no outside justification of such.

Also there are a number of university level music appreciate courses. Go to a university. You will find them. Here are some offered by my university:

MUSI 267 Sound and Sense: Listening to Music 3 credits Humanities MUSI 285 History of Popular Music I: Blues to Big Bands, 1900-1940 3 credits Humanities MUSI 286 History of Popular Music II: Be-bop to Beatles, 1940-1970 3 credits Humanities MUSI 310 Western Music: Beginnings to Baroque 3 credits Humanities MUSI 420 Anglo-American Popular Music Tradition 3 credits Humanities MUSI 421 The Folk Music Revival I: Before 1945 3 credits Humanities MUSI 423 Advanced Studies in Popular Music 3 credits Humanities

i guess my point is i didn't go to a university to study music to understand what I like and what I think sounds good. To say because of that I have poor taste in music, you would contradict yourself whenever we shared the same interest, right?

  On 3/30/2012 at 5:57 AM, david said:

i guess my point is i didn't go to a university to study music to understand what I like and what I think sounds good.

That's fair. I don't believe a person needs to go to University or even have an understanding of what makes good music good to enjoy music.

Think of it like this David, what about people that drink wine? Anyone can enjoy a good glass of wine, even 9$ bottles of wine. What about people that enjoy 500$ bottles of wine? They have a criteria based approach for judging the quality of said wine. Are they enjoying different qualities of wine, is one better? Or is it just "subjective" taste?

Is that a good analogy?

no

  On 3/30/2012 at 5:59 AM, david said:

no

Why?

They are essentially the same entity. Layers, notes, etc. Food and music are almost the same beast. That's why they have gone together for the last 12000 years (at least).

These are things you learn in university courses.

  On 3/30/2012 at 6:02 AM, StephenG said:

Food and music are almost the same beast.

lol

  On 3/30/2012 at 5:57 AM, david said:

i guess my point is i didn't go to a university to study music to understand what I like and what I think sounds good. To say because of that I have poor taste in music, you would contradict yourself whenever we shared the same interest, right?

I never made the generalization that anyone that likes skrillex only likes shitty music. So no, I wouldn't be making any contradictions.

  On 3/30/2012 at 6:05 AM, gmanyo said:

  On 3/30/2012 at 6:02 AM, StephenG said:

Food and music are almost the same beast.

 

lol

how is that funny?

Nevermind. It is clearly pointless to try and have an educated discussion in any WATMM thread.

I just thought that particular phrase was funny.

I actually think the food analogy isn't bad. Some people like expensive stuff, other people like cheap stuff. (Although you could argue that healthy food is the best. No analogy is perfect.)