Burial - Kindred EP

  On 2/19/2012 at 11:37 PM, Awepittance said:

  On 2/19/2012 at 6:58 AM, azatoth said:

Am I the only one that prefer his debut to Untrue? Granted, I have not listened to Untrue as much as his debut, but it's just because it felt more of the same.

 

no, i very much prefer it to Untrue

It has U Hurt Me.

Of course its fucking better.

i prefer debut to untrue and street halo to kindred. i guess i just can't stomach more than one burial release every 36 months.

  On 2/19/2012 at 12:21 AM, rixxx said:

  On 2/18/2012 at 5:49 PM, troon said:

burial is rare artist who has allowed us to interpret our connection with him almost entirely through his musics and his musics are built so well for this

 

 

I replaced music with testicles whilst reading this.

µ

  On 2/19/2012 at 7:55 PM, Candiru said:

Cal Chuchesta is awesome.

shut up. Anthony is so awkwardly unfunny it hurts, but doesn't realise because he has a very high opinion of himself.

Very off topic but,

Why is Burial considered dubstep?

Because it is like, next level beats with that underground dirty feel y'know?

  On 2/20/2012 at 7:52 AM, Danny O Flannagin said:

Very off topic but,

 

Why is Burial considered dubstep?

I always wondered that too. Does not have the wowowowowooo bass and that stuff, sounds dark though. I guess it sells more if they say it's dubstep...

they don't. burial's never claimed to be dubstep.

he has a lot more in common with 2-step garage like el-b and zed bias.

Well.. When he started releasing, dubstep was way more ambient and deep like that... Before the days of brostep.

Giving this a little rest, let in simmer for a week or so. Next time I play it, it will no doubt sound fucking epic!!

You know, I've noticed this effort to exticate Burial from the dubstep scene, and it's pretty gay. Dubstep does not have to be a dirty word, and I for one am glad to have Burial associated with it. That being said, yes, he has gradually moved away from the sound for a while now, and the "future garage" tag tends to be more fitting. That's still in the general sphere of dubstep though, with the UK garage and 2-step origins. For more recent Burial there's just less of the "dub" part in dubstep, but let's be real: Burial certainly started off as a dubstep artist and it's not like he's completely changed his sound, either. Calling Kindred dubstep is not a faux paus on par with calling it "techno" or some similar term that gets abused and misused like hell.

yes but

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1XlcddsYnLM

(released in 2000)

Returning to this EP for the first time in a good few days. Still fucking great.

  On 2/20/2012 at 9:32 PM, Popemobile v2 said:

You know, I've noticed this effort to exticate Burial from the dubstep scene, and it's pretty gay. Dubstep does not have to be a dirty word, and I for one am glad to have Burial associated with it. That being said, yes, he has gradually moved away from the sound for a while now, and the "future garage" tag tends to be more fitting. That's still in the general sphere of dubstep though, with the UK garage and 2-step origins. For more recent Burial there's just less of the "dub" part in dubstep, but let's be real: Burial certainly started off as a dubstep artist and it's not like he's completely changed his sound, either. Calling Kindred dubstep is not a faux paus on par with calling it "techno" or some similar term that gets abused and misused like hell.

Its not the bass that makes it dubstep for me. Its the beats. The drums in nearly all dubstep (except for a few exceptions) is beefier and less subtle. Its all boom boom, with no hints of others. Dubstep drums seem to be there or not, theres no in between.

Id prefer to call burial 2-step or garage, but people dont like calling things past 05 garage. They want to confine it to 90s and barely early 00. Really it doesnt really fucking matter, it just makes it easier when describing to people who've never heard it before.

Most dubstep is really shit.

  On 2/20/2012 at 11:01 PM, chassis said:

Its not the bass that makes it dubstep for me. Its the beats. The drums in nearly all dubstep (except for a few exceptions) is beefier and less subtle. Its all boom boom, with no hints of others. Dubstep drums seem to be there or not, theres no in between.

precisely. dubstep is all kick on the one and the three, with a snare on or around the four (and with more emphasis on the drums). garage tends to be much busier and shufflier, with a lighter touch. it's true that burial's first album is 'dubsteppier' if you're going to use that criterion, though.

  On 2/20/2012 at 11:04 PM, kaini said:

  On 2/20/2012 at 11:01 PM, chassis said:

Its not the bass that makes it dubstep for me. Its the beats. The drums in nearly all dubstep (except for a few exceptions) is beefier and less subtle. Its all boom boom, with no hints of others. Dubstep drums seem to be there or not, theres no in between.

 

precisely. dubstep is all kick on the one and the three, with a snare on or around the four (and with more emphasis on the drums). garage tends to be much busier and shufflier, with a lighter touch. it's true that burial's first album is 'dubsteppier' if you're going to use that criterion, though.

When you say shufflier... do you mean like footwork/the stuff thats been coming out on mu the last few years?

not important, I was just curious.

  On 2/21/2012 at 12:46 AM, StephenG said:

  On 2/20/2012 at 11:04 PM, kaini said:

  On 2/20/2012 at 11:01 PM, chassis said:

Its not the bass that makes it dubstep for me. Its the beats. The drums in nearly all dubstep (except for a few exceptions) is beefier and less subtle. Its all boom boom, with no hints of others. Dubstep drums seem to be there or not, theres no in between.

 

precisely. dubstep is all kick on the one and the three, with a snare on or around the four (and with more emphasis on the drums). garage tends to be much busier and shufflier, with a lighter touch. it's true that burial's first album is 'dubsteppier' if you're going to use that criterion, though.

 

When you say shufflier... do you mean like footwork/the stuff thats been coming out on mu the last few years?

 

not important, I was just curious.

Like hihats with shuffle, triplets and wot not. Shuffles not a new thang.

Thx boss!

  On 2/21/2012 at 12:46 AM, StephenG said:

When you say shufflier... do you mean like footwork/the stuff thats been coming out on mu the last few years?

to a degree, all you have to do is listen!

i find the drum programming in 2step is a little bit more sophisticated, but i guess the simplistic nature of juke/footwurk is part of the charm. both have plenty of triplets. both burial and this stuff are pretty triplet and shuffle-heavy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGdJrvskdv0&feature=related

totally seminal tune.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yAULh9Puv4g

housey beat meets garagey beat long before burial

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wKOLDa4M8-o

shades of 'raver' here

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sgdNc6V0jxc

fucking adore this tune. compare with 'archangel'

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZKSeUC8nKo

tl;dr burial is a unique talent. he's something special. but he has a LOT more in common with excellent 2-step garage than he does with dubstep.

interesting... thanks boss. I think I'll try out this burial stuff. ;)

12th of march now folks.

This is probably what its like to be a boc fanboy

https://twitter.com/#!/Hyperdub/status/171951188437245952

i've got no intention of reading this thread but i came to say: this might be burials best work yet

  On 2/22/2012 at 2:06 AM, chassis said:

12th of march now folks.

 

This is probably what its like to be a boc fanboy

https://twitter.com/...951188437245952

Finally; I am really into this EP at the moment.

  On 2/22/2012 at 2:06 AM, chassis said:

12th of march now folks.

 

This is probably what its like to be a boc fanboy

https://twitter.com/...951188437245952

Super, although now I have the mp3s I will wait and buy this from a proper record shop rather than the internets.

wasn't 2-step just another name for dubstep when the term dubstep hadn't been coined yet tho?