Higgs Boson discovered

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"We have restricted the most likely mass region for the Higgs boson to 116-130 GeV, and over the last few weeks we have started to see an intriguing excess of events in the mass range around 125 GeV," explained ATLAS experiment spokesperson Fabiola Gianotti."This excess may be due to a fluctuation, but it could also be something more interesting. We cannot conclude anything at this stage. We need more study and more data. Given the outstanding performance of the LHC this year, we will not need to wait long for enough data and can look forward to resolving this puzzle in 2012."

"We cannot exclude the presence of the Standard Model Higgs between 115 and 127 GeV because of a modest excess of events in this mass region that appears, quite consistently, in five independent channels," explained CMS experiment Spokesperson, Guido Tonelli. "The excess is most compatible with a Standard Model Higgs in the vicinity of 124 GeV and below but the statistical significance is not large enough to say anything conclusive. As of today what we see is consistent either with a background fluctuation or with the presence of the boson. Refined analyses and additional data delivered in 2012 by this magnificent machine will definitely give an answer."

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CERN announced today that the Higgs has been ‘observed’, but not ‘detected’. The subtle difference between these two words lies in mathematics. When CERN says that they have observed the Higgs, it means that they are 99.73% sure that the Higgs is there. This is, however, not enough to guarantee the tag of a discovery. For that, the confidence level has to go up to 5-sigma, which gives a 99.99994% surety. This is very important, since 3-sigma effects have been known to go away in the past.

CERN received a bit of flak from some for using Comic Sans font for their slides. Also the streaming was quite faulty, going down numerous times!

http://techie-buzz.c...ar-results.html

http://public.web.cern.ch/public/

revolution in physics starts today...

thread title says it's been discovered, but then quoted text says that the certainty percentage doesn't warrant the use of the term 'discovery'

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probably

  On 12/13/2011 at 3:57 PM, Adam Beker said:

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"We have restricted the most likely mass region for the Higgs boson to 116-130 GeV, and over the last few weeks we have started to see an intriguing excess of events in the mass range around 125 GeV," explained ATLAS experiment spokesperson Fabiola Gianotti."This excess may be due to a fluctuation, but it could also be something more interesting. We cannot conclude anything at this stage. We need more study and more data. Given the outstanding performance of the LHC this year, we will not need to wait long for enough data and can look forward to resolving this puzzle in 2012."

"We cannot exclude the presence of the Standard Model Higgs between 115 and 127 GeV because of a modest excess of events in this mass region that appears, quite consistently, in five independent channels," explained CMS experiment Spokesperson, Guido Tonelli. "The excess is most compatible with a Standard Model Higgs in the vicinity of 124 GeV and below but the statistical significance is not large enough to say anything conclusive. As of today what we see is consistent either with a background fluctuation or with the presence of the boson. Refined analyses and additional data delivered in 2012 by this magnificent machine will definitely give an answer."

 

 

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CERN announced today that the Higgs has been ‘observed’, but not ‘detected’. The subtle difference between these two words lies in mathematics. When CERN says that they have observed the Higgs, it means that they are 99.73% sure that the Higgs is there. This is, however, not enough to guarantee the tag of a discovery. For that, the confidence level has to go up to 5-sigma, which gives a 99.99994% surety. This is very important, since 3-sigma effects have been known to go away in the past.

CERN received a bit of flak from some for using Comic Sans font for their slides. Also the streaming was quite faulty, going down numerous times!

 

 

 

http://techie-buzz.c...ar-results.html

http://public.web.cern.ch/public/

sorry

technically it hasn't been discovered yet, but we will know whether it exists by the end of 2012

ah i see someone has already pointed this out. and for a second there i thought i would look like the smart one.

so what do we do with the LHC after 2012? just pack up and leave it underground?

  On 12/13/2011 at 4:01 PM, liquiday said:

revolution in physics starts today...

bollocks.

(sorry, but really)

how can you say that when we have narrowed the range by like 40 GeV i mean come on

  On 12/13/2011 at 4:19 PM, Ricky Downtown said:

ah i see someone has already pointed this out. and for a second there i thought i would look like the smart one.

I'm not smart, per se...just hate seeing sensationalised headlines, when the facts go directly against what the headline states.

I'm sure the internet is alight with headlines stating that it has been discovered. All completely disingenuous, of course.

At this moment of writing, anyway...

We have discovered that we will either prove or disprove the existence of the Higgs Boson in the future. Fuck YA Science

fucking semantics.

enjoi the ride, prikface

Damn, so close :(

ITS ALL BOLLOCKS

THE ONLY SCIENCE I FOLLOW IS THAT OF GOD

FUCKLOGIC

HERP

  On 12/13/2011 at 4:19 PM, Ricky Downtown said:

technically it hasn't been discovered yet, but we will know whether it exists by the end of 2012

 

ah i see someone has already pointed this out. and for a second there i thought i would look like the smart one.

 

so what do we do with the LHC after 2012? just pack up and leave it underground?

They have only been running it at half the energy so far, 3.5 TeV per beam, when the max capacity is 7 TeV per beam which they will start doing in 2014 if all goes to plan. Smashing particles at higher energies will for sure allow some interesting things to be discovered. And they are doing much other research than just looking for the Higgs boson at CERN.

New Dopplereffekt album announcement imminent.

lol

  On 12/13/2011 at 4:19 PM, Ricky Downtown said:

technically it hasn't been discovered yet, but we will know whether it exists by the end of 2012

More precisely on December 21st 201, the day the LHC will destroy the world.

I think a Higgs bison just came out of my ass.

They used comic sans. My god. As if they had to restore the balance of the universe after 'observing' the Higgs particle. Comic sans.

Cosmic sans.

how about we solve our social problems first

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All the time, money/efforts on this project could be put torwards something more productive for society. It's quite a simple train of thought - no Zeitgeist promo needed.