Rephlex Other Music

  On 2/14/2012 at 6:07 AM, StephenG said:

  On 2/14/2012 at 2:28 AM, Freak of the week said:

  On 2/14/2012 at 2:01 AM, StephenG said:

  On 2/14/2012 at 1:31 AM, Freak of the week said:

  On 2/14/2012 at 12:29 AM, StephenG said:

What makes one genre more appealing to you than another? Technicality? Is it a projection or reflection of yourself/your persona etc? The culture and style associated with the genre?

 

Or is it just good fucken choons? lol

 

I listen to what I enjoy and that is as simple as that. If music has that something for me, then that's all that matters to me. Few years ago I was basically only in IDM/electronic music, but as the time progressed I have started to appreciate more and more all kinds of genres, as long as the music is good.

 

I certainly like that simple approach. I think I've always over-thought music... I'm always seeking an understanding of WHY I enjoy it and then seek out those qualities and artists that can deliver MORE of those qualities. At a certain point though, I hit what I think are the artists that deliver that quality and are at the pinnacle of said quality..

 

Depressing sometimes that I think I've heard the BEST music, and perhaps I latch on to new artists simply for difference....

 

I guess that almost epitomizes life in general though. Even if you eat chicago style deep dish pizzas (a-la steinvord thread) daily, you get tired eventually, no?

 

Lol. But seriously, I have realized throughout time that every genre has a meaning, importance. I think that one can feel artist's approach/attitude towards his work if he focuses himself enough on his art. One interesting example was (aside from the obvious Aphex, AE, Boc, etc. ones) Throbbing Gristle. Their gig at Kezar, San Francisco, in 1981., really amazed me. I truly got the impression that they are (were) living their music.

 

Then again, who knows really how many great artists don't/didn't get the attention they deserve. I sometimes like to think about how many classical composers became actually forgotten, but were important in the history of music. One interesting example is Vivaldi, whose work was "rediscovered" in 20th century and soon Vivaldi got a place in the history of music he deserves, but he was relatively unknown before that "rediscovery". From Wikipedia:

 

"During his lifetime, Vivaldi's popularity quickly made him famous in other countries, including France where musical taste was less dictated by fashion than elsewhere.^{[citation needed]} This popularity dwindled. After the Baroque period, Vivaldi's published concerti were relatively unknown, and largely ignored, even after Felix Mendelssohn rekindled interest in Bach. Even Vivaldi's most famous work, The Four Seasons, was unknown in its original edition.

In the early 20th century, Fritz Kreisler's Vivaldi-styled concerto (which he passed off as an original Vivaldi work) helped revive Vivaldi's reputation. This spurred the French scholar Marc Pincherle to begin an academic study of Vivaldi's oeuvre. Many Vivaldi manuscripts were rediscovered, and were acquired by the National University of Turin Library with generous sponsorship of Turinese businessmen Roberto Foa and Filippo Giordano, in memory of their sons. This led to renewed interest in Vivaldi by, among others, Mario Rinaldi, Alfredo Casella, Ezra Pound, Olga Rudge, Desmond Chute, Arturo Toscanini, Arnold Schering, and Louis Kaufman. These figures were instrumental in the Vivaldi revival of the 20th century.

In 1926, in a monastery in Piedmont, researchers discovered 14 folios of Vivaldi's work, previously thought lost during the Napoleonic wars. Some volumes in the numbered set were missing; these turned up in the collections of the descendants of the Grand Duke Durazzo who had acquired the monastery complex in the 18th century. The volumes contained 300 concertos, 19 operas and over 100 vocal-instrumental works.^[43]

The resurrection of Vivaldi's unpublished works in the 20th century is mostly due to the efforts of Alfredo Casella, who in 1939 organised the historic Vivaldi Week, in which the rediscovered Gloria (RV 589) and l'Olimpiade were first revived. Since World War II, Vivaldi's compositions have enjoyed wide success. In 1947, the Venetian businessman Antonio Fanna founded the Istituto Italiano Antonio Vivaldi, with the composer Gian Francesco Malipiero as its artistic director, having the purpose of promoting Vivaldi's music and publishing new editions of his works. Historically informed performances seem to have increased Vivaldi's fame further. Unlike many of his contemporaries, whose music is rarely heard outside an academic or special-interest context, Vivaldi is popular among modern audiences."

 

Very interesting, no matter what your opinion is about classical music. Internet is, seen through this perspective, definitely a blessing.

 

That is a brilliant article, thank you for sharing...

 

Don't laugh, but throbbing gristle: hot on the heels of love (ratcliffe remix) is one of my favorite songs.... There are so many feelings; situations I could see it being applicable to. It reminds me of a dream I've had upwards of 100 times... it's raining in times square and there's noone around... but for some reason the roads aren't paved they're dirt. And that's about the extent of that dream but I wake up and feel it to have been significant, as if for a period of time I was in another dimension experiencing that dream as my reality...

 

Anyway, lsd influenced dreams aside:

 

"But seriously, I have realized throughout time that every genre has a meaning, importance." Can that meaning per-genre be characterized in a single word? Or is that so subjective that it's impossible?

 

I'm sorry if these are still newb posts, but I've not had intelligent music-oriented individuals to speak to, ever. I think I'm the only WATMM member in Alberta-Canada if that's any indication.

Hey, don't worry, you have great posts. Anyway, I like to think that every great artist is capable of transforming certain universal ideas/emotions into a medium, and then other people, when exposed to his art through that medium, whether it is music, painting or something else, are able to experience those same ideas/emotions. Although, of course, there's always a lot of subjectivity involved, there's in my opinion a certain dose of objectivity that can be recognized if one's focused enough on one's art. As I said before, I started appreciating more and more genres throughout time, because I think that eventually it's not about a genre, but ideas and an attitude towards art and life itself. We could say that every piece of great music contains a certain, eternal, universal aspect of reality. Maybe those aspects may seem quite different, when you compare for example rock/metal with IDM or such stuff, but I think they're all still important, only different. After all, reality and we ourselves are incredibly complex.

  On 2/14/2012 at 1:24 PM, Freak of the week said:

  On 2/14/2012 at 6:07 AM, StephenG said:

  On 2/14/2012 at 2:28 AM, Freak of the week said:

  On 2/14/2012 at 2:01 AM, StephenG said:

  On 2/14/2012 at 1:31 AM, Freak of the week said:

  On 2/14/2012 at 12:29 AM, StephenG said:

What makes one genre more appealing to you than another? Technicality? Is it a projection or reflection of yourself/your persona etc? The culture and style associated with the genre?

 

Or is it just good fucken choons? lol

 

I listen to what I enjoy and that is as simple as that. If music has that something for me, then that's all that matters to me. Few years ago I was basically only in IDM/electronic music, but as the time progressed I have started to appreciate more and more all kinds of genres, as long as the music is good.

 

I certainly like that simple approach. I think I've always over-thought music... I'm always seeking an understanding of WHY I enjoy it and then seek out those qualities and artists that can deliver MORE of those qualities. At a certain point though, I hit what I think are the artists that deliver that quality and are at the pinnacle of said quality..

 

Depressing sometimes that I think I've heard the BEST music, and perhaps I latch on to new artists simply for difference....

 

I guess that almost epitomizes life in general though. Even if you eat chicago style deep dish pizzas (a-la steinvord thread) daily, you get tired eventually, no?

 

Lol. But seriously, I have realized throughout time that every genre has a meaning, importance. I think that one can feel artist's approach/attitude towards his work if he focuses himself enough on his art. One interesting example was (aside from the obvious Aphex, AE, Boc, etc. ones) Throbbing Gristle. Their gig at Kezar, San Francisco, in 1981., really amazed me. I truly got the impression that they are (were) living their music.

 

Then again, who knows really how many great artists don't/didn't get the attention they deserve. I sometimes like to think about how many classical composers became actually forgotten, but were important in the history of music. One interesting example is Vivaldi, whose work was "rediscovered" in 20th century and soon Vivaldi got a place in the history of music he deserves, but he was relatively unknown before that "rediscovery". From Wikipedia:

 

"During his lifetime, Vivaldi's popularity quickly made him famous in other countries, including France where musical taste was less dictated by fashion than elsewhere.^{[citation needed]} This popularity dwindled. After the Baroque period, Vivaldi's published concerti were relatively unknown, and largely ignored, even after Felix Mendelssohn rekindled interest in Bach. Even Vivaldi's most famous work, The Four Seasons, was unknown in its original edition.

In the early 20th century, Fritz Kreisler's Vivaldi-styled concerto (which he passed off as an original Vivaldi work) helped revive Vivaldi's reputation. This spurred the French scholar Marc Pincherle to begin an academic study of Vivaldi's oeuvre. Many Vivaldi manuscripts were rediscovered, and were acquired by the National University of Turin Library with generous sponsorship of Turinese businessmen Roberto Foa and Filippo Giordano, in memory of their sons. This led to renewed interest in Vivaldi by, among others, Mario Rinaldi, Alfredo Casella, Ezra Pound, Olga Rudge, Desmond Chute, Arturo Toscanini, Arnold Schering, and Louis Kaufman. These figures were instrumental in the Vivaldi revival of the 20th century.

In 1926, in a monastery in Piedmont, researchers discovered 14 folios of Vivaldi's work, previously thought lost during the Napoleonic wars. Some volumes in the numbered set were missing; these turned up in the collections of the descendants of the Grand Duke Durazzo who had acquired the monastery complex in the 18th century. The volumes contained 300 concertos, 19 operas and over 100 vocal-instrumental works.^[43]

The resurrection of Vivaldi's unpublished works in the 20th century is mostly due to the efforts of Alfredo Casella, who in 1939 organised the historic Vivaldi Week, in which the rediscovered Gloria (RV 589) and l'Olimpiade were first revived. Since World War II, Vivaldi's compositions have enjoyed wide success. In 1947, the Venetian businessman Antonio Fanna founded the Istituto Italiano Antonio Vivaldi, with the composer Gian Francesco Malipiero as its artistic director, having the purpose of promoting Vivaldi's music and publishing new editions of his works. Historically informed performances seem to have increased Vivaldi's fame further. Unlike many of his contemporaries, whose music is rarely heard outside an academic or special-interest context, Vivaldi is popular among modern audiences."

 

Very interesting, no matter what your opinion is about classical music. Internet is, seen through this perspective, definitely a blessing.

 

That is a brilliant article, thank you for sharing...

 

Don't laugh, but throbbing gristle: hot on the heels of love (ratcliffe remix) is one of my favorite songs.... There are so many feelings; situations I could see it being applicable to. It reminds me of a dream I've had upwards of 100 times... it's raining in times square and there's noone around... but for some reason the roads aren't paved they're dirt. And that's about the extent of that dream but I wake up and feel it to have been significant, as if for a period of time I was in another dimension experiencing that dream as my reality...

 

Anyway, lsd influenced dreams aside:

 

"But seriously, I have realized throughout time that every genre has a meaning, importance." Can that meaning per-genre be characterized in a single word? Or is that so subjective that it's impossible?

 

I'm sorry if these are still newb posts, but I've not had intelligent music-oriented individuals to speak to, ever. I think I'm the only WATMM member in Alberta-Canada if that's any indication.

 

Hey, don't worry, you have great posts. Anyway, I like to think that every great artist is capable of transforming certain universal ideas/emotions into a medium, and then other people, when exposed to his art through that medium, whether it is music, painting or something else, are able to experience those same ideas/emotions. Although, of course, there's always a lot of subjectivity involved, there's in my opinion a certain dose of objectivity that can be recognized if one's focused enough on one's art. As I said before, I started appreciating more and more genres throughout time, because I think that eventually it's not about a genre, but ideas and an attitude towards art and life itself. We could say that every piece of great music contains a certain, eternal, universal aspect of reality. Maybe those aspects may seem quite different, when you compare for example rock/metal with IDM or such stuff, but I think they're all still important, only different. After all, reality and we ourselves are incredibly complex.

Thanks :). I guess then that's why so many of us collectively have the same interpretation of an artists work whether that's a painting, music, etc. I wonder what causes the outliers, the people that despite the overwhelming consensus that one agreed upon interpretation is what the artist intended, claim otherwise?

I think I agree with what you're saying here, that there is a natural progression that eventually it's not about genre, just the ability to use music as a medium to convey an idea. Don't you find it interesting that most art (whether painting, music etc) is conveying to you an idea that you've probably already had on your own, individual from the art, and we listen to it as some sort of affirmation like "oh yeah, he/she had that idea too"...?

hope that made sense

  On 2/14/2012 at 3:56 PM, StephenG said:

  On 2/14/2012 at 1:24 PM, Freak of the week said:

  On 2/14/2012 at 6:07 AM, StephenG said:

  On 2/14/2012 at 2:28 AM, Freak of the week said:

  On 2/14/2012 at 2:01 AM, StephenG said:

  On 2/14/2012 at 1:31 AM, Freak of the week said:

  On 2/14/2012 at 12:29 AM, StephenG said:

What makes one genre more appealing to you than another? Technicality? Is it a projection or reflection of yourself/your persona etc? The culture and style associated with the genre?

 

Or is it just good fucken choons? lol

 

I listen to what I enjoy and that is as simple as that. If music has that something for me, then that's all that matters to me. Few years ago I was basically only in IDM/electronic music, but as the time progressed I have started to appreciate more and more all kinds of genres, as long as the music is good.

 

I certainly like that simple approach. I think I've always over-thought music... I'm always seeking an understanding of WHY I enjoy it and then seek out those qualities and artists that can deliver MORE of those qualities. At a certain point though, I hit what I think are the artists that deliver that quality and are at the pinnacle of said quality..

 

Depressing sometimes that I think I've heard the BEST music, and perhaps I latch on to new artists simply for difference....

 

I guess that almost epitomizes life in general though. Even if you eat chicago style deep dish pizzas (a-la steinvord thread) daily, you get tired eventually, no?

 

Lol. But seriously, I have realized throughout time that every genre has a meaning, importance. I think that one can feel artist's approach/attitude towards his work if he focuses himself enough on his art. One interesting example was (aside from the obvious Aphex, AE, Boc, etc. ones) Throbbing Gristle. Their gig at Kezar, San Francisco, in 1981., really amazed me. I truly got the impression that they are (were) living their music.

 

Then again, who knows really how many great artists don't/didn't get the attention they deserve. I sometimes like to think about how many classical composers became actually forgotten, but were important in the history of music. One interesting example is Vivaldi, whose work was "rediscovered" in 20th century and soon Vivaldi got a place in the history of music he deserves, but he was relatively unknown before that "rediscovery". From Wikipedia:

 

"During his lifetime, Vivaldi's popularity quickly made him famous in other countries, including France where musical taste was less dictated by fashion than elsewhere.^{[citation needed]} This popularity dwindled. After the Baroque period, Vivaldi's published concerti were relatively unknown, and largely ignored, even after Felix Mendelssohn rekindled interest in Bach. Even Vivaldi's most famous work, The Four Seasons, was unknown in its original edition.

In the early 20th century, Fritz Kreisler's Vivaldi-styled concerto (which he passed off as an original Vivaldi work) helped revive Vivaldi's reputation. This spurred the French scholar Marc Pincherle to begin an academic study of Vivaldi's oeuvre. Many Vivaldi manuscripts were rediscovered, and were acquired by the National University of Turin Library with generous sponsorship of Turinese businessmen Roberto Foa and Filippo Giordano, in memory of their sons. This led to renewed interest in Vivaldi by, among others, Mario Rinaldi, Alfredo Casella, Ezra Pound, Olga Rudge, Desmond Chute, Arturo Toscanini, Arnold Schering, and Louis Kaufman. These figures were instrumental in the Vivaldi revival of the 20th century.

In 1926, in a monastery in Piedmont, researchers discovered 14 folios of Vivaldi's work, previously thought lost during the Napoleonic wars. Some volumes in the numbered set were missing; these turned up in the collections of the descendants of the Grand Duke Durazzo who had acquired the monastery complex in the 18th century. The volumes contained 300 concertos, 19 operas and over 100 vocal-instrumental works.^[43]

The resurrection of Vivaldi's unpublished works in the 20th century is mostly due to the efforts of Alfredo Casella, who in 1939 organised the historic Vivaldi Week, in which the rediscovered Gloria (RV 589) and l'Olimpiade were first revived. Since World War II, Vivaldi's compositions have enjoyed wide success. In 1947, the Venetian businessman Antonio Fanna founded the Istituto Italiano Antonio Vivaldi, with the composer Gian Francesco Malipiero as its artistic director, having the purpose of promoting Vivaldi's music and publishing new editions of his works. Historically informed performances seem to have increased Vivaldi's fame further. Unlike many of his contemporaries, whose music is rarely heard outside an academic or special-interest context, Vivaldi is popular among modern audiences."

 

Very interesting, no matter what your opinion is about classical music. Internet is, seen through this perspective, definitely a blessing.

 

That is a brilliant article, thank you for sharing...

 

Don't laugh, but throbbing gristle: hot on the heels of love (ratcliffe remix) is one of my favorite songs.... There are so many feelings; situations I could see it being applicable to. It reminds me of a dream I've had upwards of 100 times... it's raining in times square and there's noone around... but for some reason the roads aren't paved they're dirt. And that's about the extent of that dream but I wake up and feel it to have been significant, as if for a period of time I was in another dimension experiencing that dream as my reality...

 

Anyway, lsd influenced dreams aside:

 

"But seriously, I have realized throughout time that every genre has a meaning, importance." Can that meaning per-genre be characterized in a single word? Or is that so subjective that it's impossible?

 

I'm sorry if these are still newb posts, but I've not had intelligent music-oriented individuals to speak to, ever. I think I'm the only WATMM member in Alberta-Canada if that's any indication.

 

Hey, don't worry, you have great posts. Anyway, I like to think that every great artist is capable of transforming certain universal ideas/emotions into a medium, and then other people, when exposed to his art through that medium, whether it is music, painting or something else, are able to experience those same ideas/emotions. Although, of course, there's always a lot of subjectivity involved, there's in my opinion a certain dose of objectivity that can be recognized if one's focused enough on one's art. As I said before, I started appreciating more and more genres throughout time, because I think that eventually it's not about a genre, but ideas and an attitude towards art and life itself. We could say that every piece of great music contains a certain, eternal, universal aspect of reality. Maybe those aspects may seem quite different, when you compare for example rock/metal with IDM or such stuff, but I think they're all still important, only different. After all, reality and we ourselves are incredibly complex.

 

Thanks :). I guess then that's why so many of us collectively have the same interpretation of an artists work whether that's a painting, music, etc. I wonder what causes the outliers, the people that despite the overwhelming consensus that one agreed upon interpretation is what the artist intended, claim otherwise?

 

I think I agree with what you're saying here, that there is a natural progression that eventually it's not about genre, just the ability to use music as a medium to convey an idea. Don't you find it interesting that most art (whether painting, music etc) is conveying to you an idea that you've probably already had on your own, individual from the art, and we listen to it as some sort of affirmation like "oh yeah, he/she had that idea too"...?

 

hope that made sense

Oh yes, it made sense. I actually wrote about this before in one of my posts, but anyway, I'll write again. I did really have an impression sometimes I've heard some music before. Examples are Aphex Twin's SAW2 CD1 TRK 5 (AKA Grass), and Kladfvgbung Micshk. When I first heard that music, I really did have a feeling that I've heard it before, possibly in my dreams (for example), but Aphex was the one who transformed it into medium. There's also a possibility, not to jump with conclusions, that maybe I've heard that music on a TV or a radio when I was a kid, but didn't pay attention to it back then, although I highly doubt it.

In addition to what I said in my previous post, I must add that I've always had an excellent memory, and really can't remember that I've ever heard that music on a TV or a radio, or that somebody played it to me before. Also, when I said that I had an impression that I've heard it before, I was mostly referring to the main melodies/tones in tracks, which immediately, when I heard the tracks for the first time, left me with the impression that I've heard them before.

Good afternoon Mr G,

I always liked electronic music but it took a backseat to all the alternative/thrash/punk/ whatever you want to call it, that was what I was tuned into in the 90's. Dunno because I was young I liked lyrics a lot as I channelled my thoughts and opinions about the world through words. One of the best things was listening to great tracks and reading along with the lyric sheet. It used to get a real buzz from it. I was just as interested in lyrics as I was music, so electronica with just it's bleeps and whirls could never fullfil that part of my soul. I listen to more electronic music in the last 6 years because I find guitar music has been done to death, whereas with electronic music holds no boundries and ironiclly I nowadays I do not care for peoples opinions on things (lyrics). In fact I hardly listen to any new music with somebody singing. Strange? Maybe because I am in my thirties and I know a fair bit about life, I don't need it explained to me. I would wager it's also because I am not so angry nowadays Now I let electronic soundscape paint pictures in my imagination, and that's just cool with me.

  On 2/14/2012 at 4:15 PM, Freak of the week said:

  On 2/14/2012 at 3:56 PM, StephenG said:

  On 2/14/2012 at 1:24 PM, Freak of the week said:

  On 2/14/2012 at 6:07 AM, StephenG said:

  On 2/14/2012 at 2:28 AM, Freak of the week said:

  On 2/14/2012 at 2:01 AM, StephenG said:

  On 2/14/2012 at 1:31 AM, Freak of the week said:

  On 2/14/2012 at 12:29 AM, StephenG said:

What makes one genre more appealing to you than another? Technicality? Is it a projection or reflection of yourself/your persona etc? The culture and style associated with the genre?

 

Or is it just good fucken choons? lol

 

I listen to what I enjoy and that is as simple as that. If music has that something for me, then that's all that matters to me. Few years ago I was basically only in IDM/electronic music, but as the time progressed I have started to appreciate more and more all kinds of genres, as long as the music is good.

 

I certainly like that simple approach. I think I've always over-thought music... I'm always seeking an understanding of WHY I enjoy it and then seek out those qualities and artists that can deliver MORE of those qualities. At a certain point though, I hit what I think are the artists that deliver that quality and are at the pinnacle of said quality..

 

Depressing sometimes that I think I've heard the BEST music, and perhaps I latch on to new artists simply for difference....

 

I guess that almost epitomizes life in general though. Even if you eat chicago style deep dish pizzas (a-la steinvord thread) daily, you get tired eventually, no?

 

Lol. But seriously, I have realized throughout time that every genre has a meaning, importance. I think that one can feel artist's approach/attitude towards his work if he focuses himself enough on his art. One interesting example was (aside from the obvious Aphex, AE, Boc, etc. ones) Throbbing Gristle. Their gig at Kezar, San Francisco, in 1981., really amazed me. I truly got the impression that they are (were) living their music.

 

Then again, who knows really how many great artists don't/didn't get the attention they deserve. I sometimes like to think about how many classical composers became actually forgotten, but were important in the history of music. One interesting example is Vivaldi, whose work was "rediscovered" in 20th century and soon Vivaldi got a place in the history of music he deserves, but he was relatively unknown before that "rediscovery". From Wikipedia:

 

"During his lifetime, Vivaldi's popularity quickly made him famous in other countries, including France where musical taste was less dictated by fashion than elsewhere.^{[citation needed]} This popularity dwindled. After the Baroque period, Vivaldi's published concerti were relatively unknown, and largely ignored, even after Felix Mendelssohn rekindled interest in Bach. Even Vivaldi's most famous work, The Four Seasons, was unknown in its original edition.

In the early 20th century, Fritz Kreisler's Vivaldi-styled concerto (which he passed off as an original Vivaldi work) helped revive Vivaldi's reputation. This spurred the French scholar Marc Pincherle to begin an academic study of Vivaldi's oeuvre. Many Vivaldi manuscripts were rediscovered, and were acquired by the National University of Turin Library with generous sponsorship of Turinese businessmen Roberto Foa and Filippo Giordano, in memory of their sons. This led to renewed interest in Vivaldi by, among others, Mario Rinaldi, Alfredo Casella, Ezra Pound, Olga Rudge, Desmond Chute, Arturo Toscanini, Arnold Schering, and Louis Kaufman. These figures were instrumental in the Vivaldi revival of the 20th century.

In 1926, in a monastery in Piedmont, researchers discovered 14 folios of Vivaldi's work, previously thought lost during the Napoleonic wars. Some volumes in the numbered set were missing; these turned up in the collections of the descendants of the Grand Duke Durazzo who had acquired the monastery complex in the 18th century. The volumes contained 300 concertos, 19 operas and over 100 vocal-instrumental works.^[43]

The resurrection of Vivaldi's unpublished works in the 20th century is mostly due to the efforts of Alfredo Casella, who in 1939 organised the historic Vivaldi Week, in which the rediscovered Gloria (RV 589) and l'Olimpiade were first revived. Since World War II, Vivaldi's compositions have enjoyed wide success. In 1947, the Venetian businessman Antonio Fanna founded the Istituto Italiano Antonio Vivaldi, with the composer Gian Francesco Malipiero as its artistic director, having the purpose of promoting Vivaldi's music and publishing new editions of his works. Historically informed performances seem to have increased Vivaldi's fame further. Unlike many of his contemporaries, whose music is rarely heard outside an academic or special-interest context, Vivaldi is popular among modern audiences."

 

Very interesting, no matter what your opinion is about classical music. Internet is, seen through this perspective, definitely a blessing.

 

That is a brilliant article, thank you for sharing...

 

Don't laugh, but throbbing gristle: hot on the heels of love (ratcliffe remix) is one of my favorite songs.... There are so many feelings; situations I could see it being applicable to. It reminds me of a dream I've had upwards of 100 times... it's raining in times square and there's noone around... but for some reason the roads aren't paved they're dirt. And that's about the extent of that dream but I wake up and feel it to have been significant, as if for a period of time I was in another dimension experiencing that dream as my reality...

 

Anyway, lsd influenced dreams aside:

 

"But seriously, I have realized throughout time that every genre has a meaning, importance." Can that meaning per-genre be characterized in a single word? Or is that so subjective that it's impossible?

 

I'm sorry if these are still newb posts, but I've not had intelligent music-oriented individuals to speak to, ever. I think I'm the only WATMM member in Alberta-Canada if that's any indication.

 

Hey, don't worry, you have great posts. Anyway, I like to think that every great artist is capable of transforming certain universal ideas/emotions into a medium, and then other people, when exposed to his art through that medium, whether it is music, painting or something else, are able to experience those same ideas/emotions. Although, of course, there's always a lot of subjectivity involved, there's in my opinion a certain dose of objectivity that can be recognized if one's focused enough on one's art. As I said before, I started appreciating more and more genres throughout time, because I think that eventually it's not about a genre, but ideas and an attitude towards art and life itself. We could say that every piece of great music contains a certain, eternal, universal aspect of reality. Maybe those aspects may seem quite different, when you compare for example rock/metal with IDM or such stuff, but I think they're all still important, only different. After all, reality and we ourselves are incredibly complex.

 

Thanks :). I guess then that's why so many of us collectively have the same interpretation of an artists work whether that's a painting, music, etc. I wonder what causes the outliers, the people that despite the overwhelming consensus that one agreed upon interpretation is what the artist intended, claim otherwise?

 

I think I agree with what you're saying here, that there is a natural progression that eventually it's not about genre, just the ability to use music as a medium to convey an idea. Don't you find it interesting that most art (whether painting, music etc) is conveying to you an idea that you've probably already had on your own, individual from the art, and we listen to it as some sort of affirmation like "oh yeah, he/she had that idea too"...?

 

hope that made sense

 

Oh yes, it made sense. I actually wrote about this before in one of my posts, but anyway, I'll write again. I did really have an impression sometimes I've heard some music before. Examples are Aphex Twin's SAW2 CD1 TRK 5 (AKA Grass), and Kladfvgbung Micshk. When I first heard that music, I really did have a feeling that I've heard it before, possibly in my dreams (for example), but Aphex was the one who transformed it into medium. There's also a possibility, not to jump with conclusions, that maybe I've heard that music on a TV or a radio when I was a kid, but didn't pay attention to it back then, although I highly doubt it.

The piano from Boards of Canada - Roygbiv STRONGLY gave me that impression. First time I heard it I kept wondering where I had heard it already!

  On 2/14/2012 at 4:44 PM, beerwolf said:

Good afternoon Mr G,

 

 

I always liked electronic music but it took a backseat to all the alternative/thrash/punk/ whatever you want to call it, that was what I was tuned into in the 90's. Dunno because I was young I liked lyrics a lot as I channelled my thoughts and opinions about the world through words. One of the best things was listening to great tracks and reading along with the lyric sheet. It used to get a real buzz from it. I was just as interested in lyrics as I was music, so electronic music with just it's bleeps and whirls could never fullfil that part of my soul. I listen to more electronic music in the last 6 years because I find guitar music has been done to death, whereas with electronic music their are no boundries and ironiclly I nowadays I do not care for peoples opinions on things (lyrics). In fact I hardly listen to any new music with somebody singing. Strange? Maybe because I am in my thirties and I know a fair bit about life, I don't need it explained to me. I would wager it's also because I am not so angry nowadays Now I let electronic soundscape paint pictures in my imagination, and that's just cool with me.

Good afternoon to you!

Yes I have flying in a blue dream, amazing album in my opinion it stands up to time quite well.

That's an interesting way to put it, in regards to the vocals and how your tastes have developed. That's what I've always liked about electronic music, I've never actually listened to much else (consistently). The sounds do the "talking".

Cheers! :)

Bohren & Der Club Of Gore

Everything in that spoiler is good.

People shit on Plastikman these days, because acid is played out and the whole "scene" got silly, but he cranks out the classics imo. Not the MOST versatile, but great atmosphere.

Consumed is one of my favs of all time. His love of sheer repetition brings him close in my eyes to Glass and Reich, especially Music in 12 parts and music for 18 musicians. In that vein check out Alvin Lucier and La Monte Young. Masters.

Skam seems to be missing from the list of labels. Pretty much everything however

Bola

Team Doyobi

Gescom

have tracks that make the "essential IDM" playlist for me. Maybe VHS Head to a lesser extent.

Murcof is also great, Seefeel, Gramm... I'm just listing off things I like now.

  On 2/15/2012 at 4:08 AM, dr lopez said:

 

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  On 2/13/2012 at 6:40 PM, StephenG said:

Hey all,

I'm sure this topic has been done 1000 times and maybe I'm breaking the rules by making another one, not sure.

 

Just wanted to see what else you all listen to other than the featured artists on here. Obviously this will be a very broad topic...

 

I'm hoping to either get exposed to or expose others to some music they may not have heard yet.

 

Here are some of the things that are always on my playlist. I realize they are pretty much all from the same 6 record labels but oh well.

 

Also, if you follow any record labels other than Mu, Warp, Rephlex, Ninjatune, Thrill Jockey, or Brainfeeder I'd love to hear about them. I've heard a few things about Domino and Numbers but don't know what artists to jump into...

 

Amon Tobin

Ceephax

V Snares

Wisp

Aleksi Perala (including all his pseudonyms)

Bjork

Bogdan Raczynski

DMX Krew

LFO

Macc & Dgohn (or both artists separately)

Mouse on Mars (parastrophics is out next week!!)

 

  On 2/13/2012 at 8:30 PM, Cryptowen said:

Kraftwerk

 

  On 2/14/2012 at 6:31 AM, Springymajig said:

Steve Reich

Orbital

The Orb

 

  On 2/14/2012 at 6:42 AM, StephenG said:

What about old Richie Hawtin, specifically under the Plastikman moniker circa 1992?

 

Plasticity is incredible.

 

Everything in that spoiler is good.

 

 

People shit on Plastikman these days, because acid is played out and the whole "scene" got silly, but he cranks out the classics imo. Not the MOST versatile, but great atmosphere.

 

Consumed is one of my favs of all time. His love of sheer repetition brings him close in my eyes to Glass and Reich, especially Music in 12 parts and music for 18 musicians. In that vein check out Alvin Lucier and La Monte Young. Masters.

 

Skam seems to be missing from the list of labels. Pretty much everything however

 

Bola

Team Doyobi

Gescom

 

have tracks that make the "essential IDM" playlist for me. Maybe VHS Head to a lesser extent.

 

Murcof is also great, Seefeel, Gramm... I'm just listing off things I like now.

My copy of plastikman sheet one just came in the mail today... :D Thanks for your recommendations I'll give em a listen. Oh I forgot about seefeel! great stuff

I've been going through and listening to a lot of these artists.... Great stuff thanks everyone for contributing.