Chris Cunningham & Ninja (of Die Antwoord)

  On 2/29/2012 at 9:34 PM, kaini said:

ninja and some ginger twat

is this real life

  On 3/1/2012 at 7:09 AM, ghOsty said:

  On 2/29/2012 at 11:46 PM, kaini said:

  On 2/29/2012 at 11:30 PM, ghOsty said:

i've never really been into Die Antwoord, I feel like perhaps I'm not getting their aim though... is it supposed to be a parody or do they take themselves seriously? That "Enter the Ninja' song is pretty terrible. I'm more interested to see Chris doing things.

 

it's parody. but parody they take very seriously (i mean covering yourself in prison tattoos? dude means it). so... performance art? i dunno.

 

so to answer your question, yes.

 

hmm, makes them come off a bit like they're trying to hard to be provocative

nah its either you like it or you dont.

  On 2/29/2012 at 1:16 AM, logakght said:

chris looks a lot like richard

Sounds like Richard too lol.

Am I the only one to develop a kind of fascination for Yo-Landi ?

insane sexiness

  On 2/29/2012 at 9:13 PM, Joyrex said:

  On 2/29/2012 at 5:49 PM, KY said:

  On 2/29/2012 at 5:30 PM, Joyrex said:

Did you just say "beast"? LOL you sound like you're twelve...

Yes, because slang is internationally consistent.

 

I think I'm not far off the mark here, considering it's usage.

fair enough—i just think if english isn't his first language, i'd give him a break on appropriate slang usage.

  On 3/1/2012 at 3:08 AM, Backson said:

with this sort of post language critiquing you'll drive a poster into Troon like minimalism.

 

 

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pretty sure I started saying beast after I saw someone say it here...

 

it's cool, dude—i say "rad" far more often than i should, making me sound like a twelve-year-old from 1991.

I say next level, zef, pous, and "fok yaau"

Has anyone noticed that Die Antwoord are now Watmm's antithesis of Skrillex?

A sell aware parody that arouses genuine affection from the IDM dorks.

  On 3/2/2012 at 12:11 PM, Backson said:

Has anyone noticed that Die Antwoord are now Watmm's antithesis of Skrillex?

 

A sell aware parody that arouses genuine affection from the IDM dorks.

i really do think we're heaping too much credit on them to say they truly are self aware. That remains to be seen

They seem pretty serious now, perhaps the joke turned real or something, I don't how to word it.

  On 3/2/2012 at 12:11 PM, Backson said:

Has anyone noticed that Die Antwoord are now Watmm's antithesis of Skrillex?

 

A sell aware parody that arouses genuine affection from the IDM dorks.

I prefer to put Die in the same group as Skrillex, Snares, Merzbow, Insane Clown Posse, and other "artists" who think their "music" is comparable to the other musicians featured here. Now, God bless 'em for being able to make a buck with this stuff and more power to them, but it doesn't change the fact the "music" is still crap and shouldn't be considered as such.

Now, before the haters jump in, notice I said "I prefer" as in my preference. If you like this stuff and are genuinely entertained by it, then great - that's the undeniable power of music - to divide as much as unite.

I don't see them as a joke :x

  On 3/2/2012 at 8:41 PM, Joyrex said:

  On 3/2/2012 at 12:11 PM, Backson said:

Has anyone noticed that Die Antwoord are now Watmm's antithesis of Skrillex?

 

A sell aware parody that arouses genuine affection from the IDM dorks.

 

I prefer to put Die in the same group as Skrillex, Snares, Merzbow, Insane Clown Posse, and other "artists" who think their "music" is comparable to the other musicians featured here. Now, God bless 'em for being able to make a buck with this stuff and more power to them, but it doesn't change the fact the "music" is still crap and shouldn't be considered as such.

 

Now, before the haters jump in, notice I said "I prefer" as in my preference. If you like this stuff and are genuinely entertained by it, then great - that's the undeniable power of music - to divide as much as unite.

Oh damn I liked you

  On 3/2/2012 at 8:42 PM, Kanakori said:

I don't see them as a joke :x

 

  On 3/2/2012 at 8:41 PM, Joyrex said:

  On 3/2/2012 at 12:11 PM, Backson said:

Has anyone noticed that Die Antwoord are now Watmm's antithesis of Skrillex?

 

A sell aware parody that arouses genuine affection from the IDM dorks.

 

I prefer to put Die in the same group as Skrillex, Snares, Merzbow, Insane Clown Posse, and other "artists" who think their "music" is comparable to the other musicians featured here. Now, God bless 'em for being able to make a buck with this stuff and more power to them, but it doesn't change the fact the "music" is still crap and shouldn't be considered as such.

 

Now, before the haters jump in, notice I said "I prefer" as in my preference. If you like this stuff and are genuinely entertained by it, then great - that's the undeniable power of music - to divide as much as unite.

 

Oh damn I liked you

I included Snares more as a joke - he actually has some songs I do like and can bear listening to. Merbow makes me want to tune to an off-air television station.

Haha. I love Snares and I like Merzbow but I know they're not for everyone and I see what you're getting at.

I gotta say, though, comparing them with Skrillex and ICP makes me feel very dirty, like either my head or yours isn't screwed on properly.

ya skrillex shouldnt be on that liste, its quite insulting to the listeners and the artists. But whatevs you well stated its your opinion.

Skrillex I don't even have a problem with as much as ICP. Fuckin' magnets indeed.

I think it's quite ironic that the creator and moderator of the biggest IDM forum on the internet is a bit close minded when it comes to music

  On 3/2/2012 at 8:41 PM, Joyrex said:

Now, God bless 'em for being able to make a buck with this stuff and more power to them, but it doesn't change the fact the "music" is still crap and shouldn't be considered as such.

dafuq joyrex

Also the fact that the phex has turned down offers by really talented artists but agreed to work with DA rustles my jimmies

  On 3/2/2012 at 8:39 PM, vasio said:

They seem pretty serious now, perhaps the joke turned real or something, I don't how to word it.

yeah, i mean i can't say for sure since i'm not them. They are probably the only ones who really know what the hell they are up to, but i knew a group of christian 'punks' in highschool. they all listened to MXPS, Mr T experience and a multitude of other celibate bad watered down pop-punk. They used to make fun of jocks and preppies, but then as they became less christian and dabbled in sexual activity they started to claim they were 'parodying' jocks, football players and preppies by emulating their behavior and looks. Even one of the guys used to bring a tennis racket to school wearing short shorts and a shirt and tie. It became such a long drawn out meta parody of sorts that by the end of high-school all of them were indistinguishable from the real thing.

this had nothing to do whatsoever with die antwoord

  On 3/2/2012 at 9:50 PM, Awepittance said:

  On 3/2/2012 at 8:39 PM, vasio said:

They seem pretty serious now, perhaps the joke turned real or something, I don't how to word it.

 

yeah, i mean i can't say for sure since i'm not them.

i'd say they're pretty self-aware.

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24 facts you didn't know about Die Antwoord

 

1. "Ninja" has been renamed more often than the average street in Durban.

 

2. Over the course of his career so far, "Ninja" has gone by many other names including The Man Who Never Came Back, MC Totally Rad, Yang Weapon, Max Normal, Constructus Corporation, Maxnormal.TV, Watkin Tudor Jones, Jones Junior ... He is most commonly known in Cape Town as "Waddy", but frequently will not answer to this name.

 

3. "Waddy" has always been big on collaborations. Long before he hooked up with Yo-landi, he exploded into the Rainbow Nation’s consciousness in 1994 fronting wigga crew The Original Evergreens. Signed to major label, Sony Music, their albums Puff the Magic (1995) and Burn the Evidence (1997) were hailed by critics as a mercurial "funkadelic jazzy hip-hop" spin on Cypress Hill's spliff-rap.

 

4. Always the creative chameleon, Waddy's next conceptual makeover saw him fronting live hip-hop band Max Normal. Their relaxed sounding, but biting grooves took cool Joburg clubs like 206 by storm. The original Max Normal line-up featured the talents of Waddy plus his DJ partner Simon 'Sibot' Ringrose, drummer Sean O Tim, drummer Adrian Levi, and guitarist Mark Buchanan.

 

5. Max Normal had only just begun to make underground waves worldwide with their album, Songs from a Mall (2001) when Waddy disbanded the crew and moved to Cape Town.

 

6. They played their last gig as the support act for Faithless on the international group’s 2002 SA tour.

 

7. Urban myth has it that a pre-famous Nelly Furtado was so smitten by seeing Max Normal perform at the Pukkelpop festival in Holland that she wanted to collaborate with Waddy.

 

8. On a mission to keep it real, Waddy invented another fantasy world for himself: The Constructus Corporation. Aka Constructus, this super-underground crew brought Waddy as Watkin Tudor Jones together with the beat Sibot and Markus Worsmtorm. Sibot and Markus are all also former African Dope fiends, and underground alternative icons in their own right, partnering up in The Real Estate Agents and sculpting beats for Playdoe and Sweat X respectively.

 

9. Constructus was a masterpiece of design and marketing, and The Ziggurat (2002), another mall-themed album, featured Waddy playing various characters, a book illustrated by Nikil Singh, and a bonus blank CD with instructions on where to download extra songs and audio, free of charge.

 

10. Fans who missed Max Normal’s more accessible sound were excited when Maxnormal.tv, a reinvention of Max Normal as a corporate hip-hop crew, came to town. Max Normal.tv gave musical multimedia presentations styled like motivational talks, with Powerpoint presentations projected above the stage.

 

11. The Maxnormal.tv line-up featured characters Max Normal (the boss), Yolandi Visser (a romance novel writer), as well as Brad Armitage (the playboy), Jakob Basson (the workhorse), and Justin De Nobrega (the angel) all of whom had different responsibilities and roles to play in Maxcorp, a conflicted but caring corporate entity sent from heaven to save the world… or something like that.

 

12. Die Antwoord came next. The current crew consists of Ninja, Yo-landi Vi$$er and DJ Hi-Tek (aka Max Normal.TV’s Justin DeNobrega).

 

13. Die Antwoord performed live for the first time ever at Ramfest 3 in February 2009.

 

14. Watch the video of them performing "Doosdronk" with Fokofpolieskar (f*ck off police car), who probably were genuinely doosdronk (that's pussy-drunk literally, but it doesn’t translate) at the time.

 

15. They also became the stuff of legend after jumping onstage to improvise "Sail Away Mutherfucka" when the Wedding DJs played the famous Enya track at Oppikoppi 2009.

 

16. Like any b®and savvy crew, Die Antwoord isn't just about music. They also make movies and merchandise. Their creations include a boutique range of limited edition, hand made soft-toys with a delightfully ear-catching billing: CHOMMIE TOYS.

 

17. These 'chum toys' are strange and wonderful creatures that include a Giraffe who is so chilled he can end arguments just by walking past, a Bokkie who likes raving to the techno heart-beat of the Earth and a cute little Rabbit that practices shiatsu. The tip: cosmic, not creepy, to "help kids - of all ages – find freedom of expression." Watch out for an edgy range of GOMMIE toys coming soon.

 

18. Waddy doesn't drink alcohol, while Francois Van Coke of Fokofpolisiekar has been about 50% proof most of his adult life.

 

19. Die Antwoord (is it wrong to call them DA for short?) billing themselves as "a mysterious force from the dark, dangerous depths of Africa". Having convinced celebrated photographer Roger Ballen to shoot their debut album cover, they continue to take a weird, scary approach to publicity. Here are a few of their first photos .

 

20. To get into the zef-rap rave groove, Ninja and Yo-landi wrote a series of "How Can We Help" you columns for Speakerbox.

 

21. Ninja also penned a series of experimental album reviews for Speakerbox. Read some: here and here

 

22. Styled as Cape Flats dwellers in the new South Africa, and performing from Mitchell’s Plein (see a video here) to Central Cape Town and blowing festivals away (see that too here), Die Antwoord quickly became huge on the trendy scene with songs like "Wat Pomp" (watch video).

 

23. Always very hip to the use of multimedia, myth and legend, Die Antwoord have recently exploded on the international scene with the "Zef Side" video (instantly losing half their Cape Town fans, who don't like to share musical interests with the mainstream.)

 

24. Many instant fans overseas people believed the video depicted their real lives. Actually, Yo-landi and Ninja are married and have a daughter, Sixteen, who is about to go to school.

 

Bonus # 25th fact! Die Antwoord's (absolutely amazing) Website now boasts that they’re “taking over the interweb”, and based on the minute by minute updates on Twitter, it seems this, at least, is true.

Insert raptor philosopher pic

What if its just a cool project made by cool artists that started of ightly and became something huge???

Die Antwoord is the new KLF. That's why people here like them.

  On 3/2/2012 at 10:33 PM, SPD² said:

Die Antwoord is the new KLF. That's why people here like them.

nailed it.

you mean this Ninja:

So KLF it hurts.

(i'd say he'd rather forget about that last one)

  On 3/2/2012 at 10:41 PM, kaini said:

yolandi i well fit

Dies music is pretty shit from what ive heard of it but as long as it stays silly with the comedy raps and watnot that's fine.

i hope for their sakes that they don't do an eminem and start to take themselves serioously.

  On 3/2/2012 at 9:24 PM, sweepstakes said:

Haha. I love Snares and I like Merzbow but I know they're not for everyone and I see what you're getting at.

 

I gotta say, though, comparing them with Skrillex and ICP makes me feel very dirty, like either my head or yours isn't screwed on properly.

Just (probably unfairly) lumping them in with other music I can't stand.

  On 3/2/2012 at 9:44 PM, ThatSpanishGuy said:

I think it's quite ironic that the creator and moderator of the biggest IDM forum on the internet is a bit close minded when it comes to music

 

  On 3/2/2012 at 8:41 PM, Joyrex said:

Now, God bless 'em for being able to make a buck with this stuff and more power to them, but it doesn't change the fact the "music" is still crap and shouldn't be considered as such.

 

dafuq joyrex

 

Also the fact that the phex has turned down offers by really talented artists but agreed to work with DA rustles my jimmies

Not close-minded at all - I listen, I make a judgement on whether I like it or not, and move on. Probably just like most people do. The fact I run a forum about electronic music doesn't mean I can't voice or be entitled to my own opinions. I probably listen to stuff some of you would find cringe-worthy or appalling and not worthy of any 'electronic music cred'.

  On 3/2/2012 at 9:54 PM, kaini said:

  On 3/2/2012 at 9:50 PM, Awepittance said:

  On 3/2/2012 at 8:39 PM, vasio said:

They seem pretty serious now, perhaps the joke turned real or something, I don't how to word it.

 

yeah, i mean i can't say for sure since i'm not them.

 

i'd say they're pretty self-aware.

 

 

  Quote

24 facts you didn't know about Die Antwoord

 

1. "Ninja" has been renamed more often than the average street in Durban.

 

2. Over the course of his career so far, "Ninja" has gone by many other names including The Man Who Never Came Back, MC Totally Rad, Yang Weapon, Max Normal, Constructus Corporation, Maxnormal.TV, Watkin Tudor Jones, Jones Junior ... He is most commonly known in Cape Town as "Waddy", but frequently will not answer to this name.

 

3. "Waddy" has always been big on collaborations. Long before he hooked up with Yo-landi, he exploded into the Rainbow Nation’s consciousness in 1994 fronting wigga crew The Original Evergreens. Signed to major label, Sony Music, their albums Puff the Magic (1995) and Burn the Evidence (1997) were hailed by critics as a mercurial "funkadelic jazzy hip-hop" spin on Cypress Hill's spliff-rap.

 

4. Always the creative chameleon, Waddy's next conceptual makeover saw him fronting live hip-hop band Max Normal. Their relaxed sounding, but biting grooves took cool Joburg clubs like 206 by storm. The original Max Normal line-up featured the talents of Waddy plus his DJ partner Simon 'Sibot' Ringrose, drummer Sean O Tim, drummer Adrian Levi, and guitarist Mark Buchanan.

 

5. Max Normal had only just begun to make underground waves worldwide with their album, Songs from a Mall (2001) when Waddy disbanded the crew and moved to Cape Town.

 

6. They played their last gig as the support act for Faithless on the international group’s 2002 SA tour.

 

7. Urban myth has it that a pre-famous Nelly Furtado was so smitten by seeing Max Normal perform at the Pukkelpop festival in Holland that she wanted to collaborate with Waddy.

 

8. On a mission to keep it real, Waddy invented another fantasy world for himself: The Constructus Corporation. Aka Constructus, this super-underground crew brought Waddy as Watkin Tudor Jones together with the beat Sibot and Markus Worsmtorm. Sibot and Markus are all also former African Dope fiends, and underground alternative icons in their own right, partnering up in The Real Estate Agents and sculpting beats for Playdoe and Sweat X respectively.

 

9. Constructus was a masterpiece of design and marketing, and The Ziggurat (2002), another mall-themed album, featured Waddy playing various characters, a book illustrated by Nikil Singh, and a bonus blank CD with instructions on where to download extra songs and audio, free of charge.

 

10. Fans who missed Max Normal’s more accessible sound were excited when Maxnormal.tv, a reinvention of Max Normal as a corporate hip-hop crew, came to town. Max Normal.tv gave musical multimedia presentations styled like motivational talks, with Powerpoint presentations projected above the stage.

 

11. The Maxnormal.tv line-up featured characters Max Normal (the boss), Yolandi Visser (a romance novel writer), as well as Brad Armitage (the playboy), Jakob Basson (the workhorse), and Justin De Nobrega (the angel) all of whom had different responsibilities and roles to play in Maxcorp, a conflicted but caring corporate entity sent from heaven to save the world… or something like that.

 

12. Die Antwoord came next. The current crew consists of Ninja, Yo-landi Vi$$er and DJ Hi-Tek (aka Max Normal.TV’s Justin DeNobrega).

 

13. Die Antwoord performed live for the first time ever at Ramfest 3 in February 2009.

 

14. Watch the video of them performing "Doosdronk" with Fokofpolieskar (f*ck off police car), who probably were genuinely doosdronk (that's pussy-drunk literally, but it doesn’t translate) at the time.

 

15. They also became the stuff of legend after jumping onstage to improvise "Sail Away Mutherfucka" when the Wedding DJs played the famous Enya track at Oppikoppi 2009.

 

16. Like any b®and savvy crew, Die Antwoord isn't just about music. They also make movies and merchandise. Their creations include a boutique range of limited edition, hand made soft-toys with a delightfully ear-catching billing: CHOMMIE TOYS.

 

17. These 'chum toys' are strange and wonderful creatures that include a Giraffe who is so chilled he can end arguments just by walking past, a Bokkie who likes raving to the techno heart-beat of the Earth and a cute little Rabbit that practices shiatsu. The tip: cosmic, not creepy, to "help kids - of all ages – find freedom of expression." Watch out for an edgy range of GOMMIE toys coming soon.

 

18. Waddy doesn't drink alcohol, while Francois Van Coke of Fokofpolisiekar has been about 50% proof most of his adult life.

 

19. Die Antwoord (is it wrong to call them DA for short?) billing themselves as "a mysterious force from the dark, dangerous depths of Africa". Having convinced celebrated photographer Roger Ballen to shoot their debut album cover, they continue to take a weird, scary approach to publicity. Here are a few of their first photos .

 

20. To get into the zef-rap rave groove, Ninja and Yo-landi wrote a series of "How Can We Help" you columns for Speakerbox.

 

21. Ninja also penned a series of experimental album reviews for Speakerbox. Read some: here and here

 

22. Styled as Cape Flats dwellers in the new South Africa, and performing from Mitchell’s Plein (see a video here) to Central Cape Town and blowing festivals away (see that too here), Die Antwoord quickly became huge on the trendy scene with songs like "Wat Pomp" (watch video).

 

23. Always very hip to the use of multimedia, myth and legend, Die Antwoord have recently exploded on the international scene with the "Zef Side" video (instantly losing half their Cape Town fans, who don't like to share musical interests with the mainstream.)

 

24. Many instant fans overseas people believed the video depicted their real lives. Actually, Yo-landi and Ninja are married and have a daughter, Sixteen, who is about to go to school.

 

Bonus # 25th fact! Die Antwoord's (absolutely amazing) Website now boasts that they’re “taking over the interweb”, and based on the minute by minute updates on Twitter, it seems this, at least, is true.

These 'facts' were probably written by the gurning idiot in all those pics, and is just another example of PR and hype.