Rubin Farr Posted April 10, 2012 Report Share Posted April 10, 2012 Hard Eight is a good place to start, Reilly at the very beginning of his career. The film technique develops from there, cinematography, story structure, dialog, etc. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide all signatures Positive Metal Attitude Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/73045-paul-thomas-anderson/page/2/#findComment-1796686 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jules Posted April 10, 2012 Report Share Posted April 10, 2012 i didn't find the chapel scene sad at all but i did find that is about when i started to feel bad for eli though. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide jules's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/73045-paul-thomas-anderson/page/2/#findComment-1796698 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest zaphod Posted April 10, 2012 Report Share Posted April 10, 2012 (edited) On 4/10/2012 at 6:37 PM, The Overlook said: No, I'm genuinely curious. Did anybody else find the chapel scene even remotely...sad? I thought it was meant to be LOLorific and that was very much my read of it anyhow. it's hilarious. when he shakes himself off like a dog is just lol. great scene. who else is looking forward to this? Edited April 10, 2012 by zaphod Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/73045-paul-thomas-anderson/page/2/#findComment-1796702 Share on other sites More sharing options...
baph Posted April 10, 2012 Report Share Posted April 10, 2012 (edited) On 4/10/2012 at 8:09 PM, zaphod said: On 4/10/2012 at 6:37 PM, The Overlook said: No, I'm genuinely curious. Did anybody else find the chapel scene even remotely...sad? I thought it was meant to be LOLorific and that was very much my read of it anyhow. it's hilarious. when he shakes himself off like a dog is just lol. great scene. who else is looking forward to this? It's definitely hilarious and definitely meant to be hilarious, but the last "abandoned my boy" is also pretty fucking sad. DDL's ability to chew scenery, draw lols, and communicate some serious fucking sociopathy and serious fucking despair, all at once, is magnificent. I lol'd hardest at "I'm your brother... from another mother," but everyone else in the theater seemed to think the movie was some somber meditation, and I had to restrain myself through the rest. Looking forward to the Master. Still need to see Boogie Nights. Hatred of Wahlberg is major impediment. Edited April 10, 2012 by baph Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/73045-paul-thomas-anderson/page/2/#findComment-1796730 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jules Posted April 10, 2012 Report Share Posted April 10, 2012 well said baph im one of the few who is not overly impressed with boogie nights. yes it is a good movie but id rather watch punch drunk love or twbb any day. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide jules's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/73045-paul-thomas-anderson/page/2/#findComment-1796734 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atop Posted April 10, 2012 Report Share Posted April 10, 2012 I didn't find the scene funny either. Just how I feel about most religious fervor: absurd, melodramatic and manipulative. 'The Master' will hopefully be the film that shows P T Anderson to be a true master of film. I already think he is. Some of you I know do not feel the same way, a lot of us do. We shall see. I agree about the Kubrick sentiments. I would like to see what went into the making of 'The Master' after it is released. I am sure he is a stickler for details, perhaps not as much as Kubrick but that would be maddening to try and be as thorough as Stanley was. The greats all have their own processes. I want to see a documentary about Tarkovsky! Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Atop's signature Hide all signatures music by ATOPdj mixes by ATOP https://woodbetweenworlds.bandcamp.com/album/777 https://auralcanyonmusic.bandcamp.com/album/once-i-was-as-you-are-now Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/73045-paul-thomas-anderson/page/2/#findComment-1796743 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest zaphod Posted April 10, 2012 Report Share Posted April 10, 2012 if you didn't laugh at all during that scene i think you're completely misreading it. his character can be manipulative and funny at the same time. that balance of tone is what makes the performance and the movie so good. if anything in the movie doesn't work it's the last couple scenes in daniel's home before eli returns. with his son. those are clearly meant to be sad and don't work very well because of it. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/73045-paul-thomas-anderson/page/2/#findComment-1796746 Share on other sites More sharing options...
baph Posted April 10, 2012 Report Share Posted April 10, 2012 I thought the final scenes were sad, but sad in the way that interacting with my girlfriend's sociopathic grandmother was sad. Like when my gf brought her flowers and in response she threatened to kill us and then smeared shit on the walls and had to be taken to the hospital but she somehow broke the EMT's arm and was banned from the hospital even though she was 97 and dying. I guess the thing is TWBB doesn't seem to go over the top at the end, for me. This should probably be cause for concern. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/73045-paul-thomas-anderson/page/2/#findComment-1796757 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atop Posted April 10, 2012 Report Share Posted April 10, 2012 I might have laughed but it was due to Eli being a ridiculous charlatan, not because of Plainview's inert comedic side. On 4/10/2012 at 9:08 PM, baph said: I thought the final scenes were sad, but sad in the way that interacting with my girlfriend's sociopathic grandmother was sad. Like when my gf brought her flowers and in response she threatened to kill us and then smeared shit on the walls and had to be taken to the hospital but she somehow broke the EMT's arm and was banned from the hospital even though she was 97 and dying. I guess the thing is TWBB doesn't seem to go over the top at the end, for me. This should probably be cause for concern. Holy smeared shit batman! Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Atop's signature Hide all signatures music by ATOPdj mixes by ATOP https://woodbetweenworlds.bandcamp.com/album/777 https://auralcanyonmusic.bandcamp.com/album/once-i-was-as-you-are-now Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/73045-paul-thomas-anderson/page/2/#findComment-1796758 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SR4 Posted April 10, 2012 Report Share Posted April 10, 2012 i loved the incredibly dark comedic slant to TWBB...both two incredibly abusive and isolated sociopaths trying to jockey for control and worship from the people below them. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide SR4's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/73045-paul-thomas-anderson/page/2/#findComment-1796779 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jules Posted April 10, 2012 Report Share Posted April 10, 2012 On 4/10/2012 at 9:02 PM, zaphod said: if you didn't laugh at all during that scene i think you're completely misreading it. his character can be manipulative and funny at the same time. that balance of tone is what makes the performance and the movie so good. if anything in the movie doesn't work it's the last couple scenes in daniel's home before eli returns. with his son. those are clearly meant to be sad and don't work very well because of it. i found that bastard in a basket scene very sad. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide jules's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/73045-paul-thomas-anderson/page/2/#findComment-1796795 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest W32MyDoom Posted April 10, 2012 Report Share Posted April 10, 2012 All of his films are very powerful, I love them all. Haven't seen Hard Eight but I intend to. Really looking forward to The Master, mostly because it has Laura Dern and Amy Adams. Also mostly because of Hoffman, also because it's PT. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/73045-paul-thomas-anderson/page/2/#findComment-1796820 Share on other sites More sharing options...
perunamuusi Posted April 10, 2012 Report Share Posted April 10, 2012 I agree with awkward Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/73045-paul-thomas-anderson/page/2/#findComment-1796825 Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLA FUR BIS FLE Posted April 10, 2012 Report Share Posted April 10, 2012 After watching TWBB, I found my self more comfortable with my own misanthropy. I mean, it worked out for him, more or less. Aside from that business with his fake brother, and his deaf son. Whatever. I now only eat steak the way Daniel Plainview eats steak. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide FLA FUR BIS FLE's signature Hide all signatures through the years, a man peoples a space with images of provinces, kingdoms, mountains, bays, ships, islands, fishes, rooms, tools, stars, horses and people. shortly before his death, he discovers that the patient labyrinth of lines traces the image of his own face. Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/73045-paul-thomas-anderson/page/2/#findComment-1796829 Share on other sites More sharing options...
baph Posted April 10, 2012 Report Share Posted April 10, 2012 On 4/10/2012 at 10:30 PM, thanks robert moses said: I now only eat steak the way Daniel Plainview eats steak. This way also works: Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/73045-paul-thomas-anderson/page/2/#findComment-1796840 Share on other sites More sharing options...
vamos scorcho Posted April 11, 2012 Report Share Posted April 11, 2012 Magnolia was the first one of his that I saw. Blew my mind. One of the most emotional films ever, and it's not crying emotional, more like cosmic emotional. The music adds to that very much. I notice similar scores can be heard in Speed Racer and I Am Love [John Adams]. Just that constant pulse that keeps you engaged with the story. Punch Drunk Love is my favorite. There Will Be Blood gets better every year. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/73045-paul-thomas-anderson/page/2/#findComment-1796984 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jules Posted April 11, 2012 Report Share Posted April 11, 2012 I should see magnolia Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide jules's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/73045-paul-thomas-anderson/page/2/#findComment-1796992 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boxus Posted April 11, 2012 Report Share Posted April 11, 2012 there will be blood was amazing, definitely my favorite. i don't understand why people compare it to no country for old men, is it just because they were up against each other for best picture? they're not really similar films at all. i saw hard eight recently and it was really fun, doesn't leave the same lasting impression as his later films but it's still very good. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Boxus's signature Hide all signatures art Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/73045-paul-thomas-anderson/page/2/#findComment-1797014 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gary C Posted April 11, 2012 Report Share Posted April 11, 2012 Same awards year, but they also filmed at the same time, in the same town. No Country had to miss a day of shooting because the oil explosion from TWBB created dark clouds that ruined their shots. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/73045-paul-thomas-anderson/page/2/#findComment-1797026 Share on other sites More sharing options...
goffer Posted April 11, 2012 Report Share Posted April 11, 2012 On 4/10/2012 at 9:00 PM, Atop said: I want to see a documentary about Tarkovsky! http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0095967/ It came with my blu-ray edition of The Sacrifice Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide goffer's signature Hide all signatures PHOTOS Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/73045-paul-thomas-anderson/page/2/#findComment-1797043 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmanyo Posted April 11, 2012 Report Share Posted April 11, 2012 On 4/11/2012 at 1:53 AM, Boxus said: there will be blood was amazing, definitely my favorite. i don't understand why people compare it to no country for old men, is it just because they were up against each other for best picture? they're not really similar films at all. I actually think they have some similarities. They've got a similar tone and very similar directing (lots of long, still shots). They've both got a hot, desert atmosphere. They also both have a very nihilistic and emotionally hard aesthetic, and the characters in both are greedy and almost emotionless. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide gmanyo's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/73045-paul-thomas-anderson/page/2/#findComment-1797056 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SR4 Posted April 11, 2012 Report Share Posted April 11, 2012 what? what the hell are you talking about? TWBB was nihilistic? Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide SR4's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/73045-paul-thomas-anderson/page/2/#findComment-1797062 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atop Posted April 11, 2012 Report Share Posted April 11, 2012 On 4/11/2012 at 2:27 AM, goffer said: On 4/10/2012 at 9:00 PM, Atop said: I want to see a documentary about Tarkovsky! http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0095967/ It came with my blu-ray edition of The Sacrifice Thanks, I will find it right now! Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Atop's signature Hide all signatures music by ATOPdj mixes by ATOP https://woodbetweenworlds.bandcamp.com/album/777 https://auralcanyonmusic.bandcamp.com/album/once-i-was-as-you-are-now Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/73045-paul-thomas-anderson/page/2/#findComment-1797070 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremymacgregor87 Posted April 11, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 11, 2012 On 4/11/2012 at 1:28 AM, jules said: I should see magnolia you should definitely see Magnolia Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide jeremymacgregor87's signature Hide all signatures profundity Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/73045-paul-thomas-anderson/page/2/#findComment-1797115 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atop Posted April 11, 2012 Report Share Posted April 11, 2012 On 4/11/2012 at 5:26 AM, verticalhold said: On 4/11/2012 at 1:28 AM, jules said: I should see magnolia you should definitely see Magnolia Yes, yes you should see Magnolia. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Atop's signature Hide all signatures music by ATOPdj mixes by ATOP https://woodbetweenworlds.bandcamp.com/album/777 https://auralcanyonmusic.bandcamp.com/album/once-i-was-as-you-are-now Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/73045-paul-thomas-anderson/page/2/#findComment-1797118 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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