Adderall, Caffeine, Energy, and Creativity

  On 7/12/2012 at 4:23 AM, vamos scorcho said:

So, I want to be able to focus, without any drugs. Or, if you think Adderall is genuinely a healthy or effective option, fill me in on that opinion!

 

 

ANY TIPS!?

You can focus without any drugs. Your brain is resilient to the act right now because it's not used to staying focused. This is due to plasticity, that nifty pop-psych catch phrase we all keep hearing. They say "the brain likes to do what it just got done doing." That is, if your brain is in the habit of taking drugs, then focusing for a bit, then crashing - your brain gets into this pattern, and slowly, you start craving the routine. Take the drugs out. Your brain will balk and cry, "vamos, this SUUUCKKKS! We could think so much better if..." but you cannot give in. If you give in, the old habit lives on. If you keep on forcing your brain to go through the motions of just focusing without coffee, without adderal, without excuses, then your brain will get used to your efforts and will fall in line with your will.

You don't need adderall. Some people might. You, vamos, can be creative and engaged without it. I've seen it over the years. Adderall feels nice and exciting, but it's a straight-up dead end when it comes to fostering long-time creativity or happiness in your life.

  On 7/12/2012 at 10:21 PM, sweepstakes said:

  On 7/12/2012 at 10:16 PM, sirch said:

  On 7/12/2012 at 9:53 PM, sweepstakes said:

  On 7/12/2012 at 9:36 PM, sirch said:

  On 7/12/2012 at 6:43 PM, EleminoP said:

just smoke weed and get drunk with bros.

 

yeah that's all fun and good unless you grow up.

Fixed

 

i should've said until you grow out of it :)

Some people don't though.

oh i know. i know people in their 40's who still smoke it everyday and don't have 1 single friend left because they live for weed and getting stoned and not much else.

but each to their own.

30mg reminds me of a mild acid trip where you can actually get shit done, i am very productive and focused when i take adderal almost scarily so. Last time i did a large amount i stayed up for 24 hours and made a CC # midi front end for every piece of hardware i owned on Reaktor.

  On 7/12/2012 at 10:28 PM, sirch said:

  On 7/12/2012 at 10:21 PM, sweepstakes said:

  On 7/12/2012 at 10:16 PM, sirch said:

  On 7/12/2012 at 9:53 PM, sweepstakes said:

  On 7/12/2012 at 9:36 PM, sirch said:

  On 7/12/2012 at 6:43 PM, EleminoP said:

just smoke weed and get drunk with bros.

 

yeah that's all fun and good unless you grow up.

Fixed

 

i should've said until you grow out of it :)

Some people don't though.

 

oh i know. i know people in their 40's who still smoke it everyday and don't have 1 single friend left because they live for weed and getting stoned and not much else.

but each to their own.

Oh, yeah, totally. I wasn't arguing with the vacuousness of that routine, just with the inevitability of growing up.

  On 7/12/2012 at 9:31 PM, od++ said:

  On 7/12/2012 at 8:02 PM, Joyrex said:

You already messed up the "healthy living" bit by trying Adderall in the first place...

 

Well it's all very sliding scale

not many people are truly healthy (don't take prescription medication or drink coffee or alcohol or coke)

 

I probably never will be. I don't want to start reminding myself of a certain work mate

"oh my god look at this stain on the floor! I can't believe someone put whatever that was in their body!"

It turned out to be a smeared blueberry lol

 

it was a berry obscenity

Totally agree - you can have never taken a drink or drug in your life and eat unhealthy and that will kill you far faster than the side-effects of any prescription drug or illegal substance.

  On 7/12/2012 at 10:42 PM, sweepstakes said:

  On 7/12/2012 at 10:28 PM, sirch said:

  On 7/12/2012 at 10:21 PM, sweepstakes said:

  On 7/12/2012 at 10:16 PM, sirch said:

  On 7/12/2012 at 9:53 PM, sweepstakes said:

  On 7/12/2012 at 9:36 PM, sirch said:

  On 7/12/2012 at 6:43 PM, EleminoP said:

just smoke weed and get drunk with bros.

 

yeah that's all fun and good unless you grow up.

Fixed

 

i should've said until you grow out of it :)

Some people don't though.

 

oh i know. i know people in their 40's who still smoke it everyday and don't have 1 single friend left because they live for weed and getting stoned and not much else.

but each to their own.

Oh, yeah, totally. I wasn't arguing with the vacuousness of that routine, just with the inevitability of growing up.

yeah. most people do, though, don't they. grow up and stop doing drugs, i mean. apart from coffee!

y'know, there's not that many OAP's still chillaxin smoking weed and drinking beer with bros is there...? lol

most people do inevitably grow out of that sooner or later.

it's not inevitable for every single person though, you're right there.

i was about 23 when i grew out of it. :)

  On 7/12/2012 at 7:11 PM, sweepstakes said:

  On 7/12/2012 at 8:47 AM, A/D said:

For me, I realized that I care more about existing in a way I like (peaceful, organized, creative, ready) more than I care about getting there easily. I have learned a lot more about myself since I quit and decided to try and achieve those things on my own. I had to learn to quiet my mind without external help.

 

You'll know if and when you're ready to do this. In my case it was when I felt I had no other option.

Feeling this post.

  On 7/12/2012 at 10:33 PM, Awepittance said:

30mg reminds me of a mild acid trip where you can actually get shit done, i am very productive and focused when i take adderal almost scarily so. Last time i did a large amount i stayed up for 24 hours and made a CC # midi front end for every piece of hardware i owned on Reaktor.

What kind of adderall are you guys taking? Everyone i have given adderall to try love it and had a good experience in it, everybody online seems to have a positive experience on adderall ...

.. THEN WHY THE FUCK I'M THE ONLY ONE HAVING SHITTY EXPERIENCES ON ADDERALL!!!!.

Its beyond depressing.

  On 7/12/2012 at 10:42 PM, Joyrex said:

  On 7/12/2012 at 9:31 PM, od++ said:

  On 7/12/2012 at 8:02 PM, Joyrex said:

You already messed up the "healthy living" bit by trying Adderall in the first place...

 

Well it's all very sliding scale

not many people are truly healthy (don't take prescription medication or drink coffee or alcohol or coke)

 

I probably never will be. I don't want to start reminding myself of a certain work mate

"oh my god look at this stain on the floor! I can't believe someone put whatever that was in their body!"

It turned out to be a smeared blueberry lol

 

it was a berry obscenity

 

Totally agree - you can have never taken a drink or drug in your life and eat unhealthy and that will kill you far faster than the side-effects of any prescription drug or illegal substance.

if human beings can preform their general daily tasks without assistance, then they are considered 'healthy'. barley alive is the new standard for health in the modern 'civilized' world. if it were not for coffee, medications, handichairs (motor-car) etc, the human race would not achieve its modern 'goal'(whatever that is). we also would not poop, ever

thanks dudes. I should say, I can't divorce the path I'm on from the drugs that have happened on the way. I think it would be stupid to think those experiences haven't made me who I am. So, I'm not saying they are bad. Just that there is a way without them, when it's time.

1) see if you are considered someone suffering from ADHD by a licensed physician or psychotherapist

2) take the NORMAL dosage prescribed

3) avoid compounding its effects with other stimulants until you are used to its effects

or

4) stop using things irresponsibly. this sounds like a straight up abusive personality.

  On 7/13/2012 at 5:52 AM, Redruth said:

if it were not for coffee, medications, handichairs (motor-car) etc, the human race would not achieve its modern 'goal'(whatever that is). we also would not poop, ever

wat

  On 7/12/2012 at 9:49 PM, AdieuErsatzEnnui said:

There isn't anything unhealthy about consuming proper amounts of alcohol and coffee. Both have good properties if used responsibly. If you want the effects of adderall without having to take it maybe you should look into natural things you can take that can get a similar effect.

Seeing a lot of advice like this. How about giving us adderall lovers some examples of alternatives?

  On 7/14/2012 at 12:00 AM, sweepstakes said:

  On 7/13/2012 at 5:52 AM, Redruth said:

if it were not for coffee, medications, handichairs (motor-car) etc, the human race would not achieve its modern 'goal'(whatever that is). we also would not poop, ever

wat

don't worry, you would poop eventually. and probably in large amounts. there would be high octane amounts of poop.

  On 7/14/2012 at 3:10 AM, Murveman said:

  On 7/12/2012 at 9:49 PM, AdieuErsatzEnnui said:

There isn't anything unhealthy about consuming proper amounts of alcohol and coffee. Both have good properties if used responsibly. If you want the effects of adderall without having to take it maybe you should look into natural things you can take that can get a similar effect.

Seeing a lot of advice like this. How about giving us adderall lovers some examples of alternatives?

long distance hiking/running

  On 7/12/2012 at 10:21 PM, sweepstakes said:

  On 7/12/2012 at 10:16 PM, sirch said:

  On 7/12/2012 at 9:53 PM, sweepstakes said:

  On 7/12/2012 at 9:36 PM, sirch said:

  On 7/12/2012 at 6:43 PM, EleminoP said:

just smoke weed and get drunk with bros.

 

yeah that's all fun and good unless you grow up.

Fixed

 

i should've said until you grow out of it :)

Some people don't though.

 

Oldest pot smoking couple alive!..been smoking since 1936

  On 7/14/2012 at 6:27 AM, ryanmcallister said:

  On 7/12/2012 at 10:21 PM, sweepstakes said:

  On 7/12/2012 at 10:16 PM, sirch said:

  On 7/12/2012 at 9:53 PM, sweepstakes said:

  On 7/12/2012 at 9:36 PM, sirch said:

  On 7/12/2012 at 6:43 PM, EleminoP said:

just smoke weed and get drunk with bros.

 

yeah that's all fun and good unless you grow up.

Fixed

 

i should've said until you grow out of it :)

Some people don't though.

 

Oldest pot smoking couple alive!..been smoking since 1936

lol wicked