Hautlle Posted August 22, 2012 Report Share Posted August 22, 2012 I know what the point of the equation is, but think about it like this. If Fi = 0 then there is zero chance for intelligent life to form, thereby humans (intelligent life) should not exist. So Fi≠ 0. I don't believe aliens visit the earth or anything, but to say there is absolutely no other intelligent life in the universe is a supremely pessimistic view, and doesn't really make sense to me. To each his own though Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Hautlle's signature Hide all signatures Albums/EPs Free to DL or stream Newest stuff is on Soundcloud Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/75069-mars-bitch/page/15/#findComment-1867621 Share on other sites More sharing options...
azatoth Posted August 22, 2012 Report Share Posted August 22, 2012 The Drake equation is rather meaningless when it's based on guesswork. It's just a nice conversation piece. That said I firmly believe there is other intelligent life out there, perhaps some that is far more advanced than us, but them visiting us I find highly unlikely. If FTL-travel is impossible making these vast interstellar voyages would be very difficult. Perhaps were are the only ones in our corner of the galaxy and we'll never meet any other lifeforms even if we manage interstellar space travel. Maybe our galaxy is teeming with intelligent life but those that have mastered interstellar travel have a no-interference approach to less developed civilizations and only answer when directly spoken to. Who knows. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide azatoth's signature Hide all signatures last.fm the biggest illusion is yourself Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/75069-mars-bitch/page/15/#findComment-1867627 Share on other sites More sharing options...
luke viia Posted August 22, 2012 Report Share Posted August 22, 2012 We'll just have to make our own intelligent life, and blast it out into the cosmos. THEN we'll have friends! Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide luke viia's signature Hide all signatures GHOST: have you killed Claudius yet HAMLET: no GHOST: why HAMLET: fuck you is why im going to the cemetery to touch skulls [planet of dinosaurs - the album [bc] [archive]] Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/75069-mars-bitch/page/15/#findComment-1867628 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Adam Posted August 22, 2012 Report Share Posted August 22, 2012 On 8/22/2012 at 8:36 PM, hautlle said: I know what the point of the equation is, but think about it like this. If Fi = 0 then there is zero chance for intelligent life to form, thereby humans (intelligent life) should not exist. So Fi≠ 0. I don't believe aliens visit the earth or anything, but to say there is absolutely no other intelligent life in the universe is a supremely pessimistic view, and doesn't really make sense to me. To each his own though No! I'm not saying that it doesnt exist, it either doesn't exist or hides its existance from us. That seems kind of obvious because a civilization more advanced than us by millions of years would show obvious signs of itself. It would also be possible that its very far and its signs couldn't reach us yet, that would still make the result of Drake's equation 0 because it's not in our galaxy. I don't believe one way or other, it's just a logical conclusion. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/75069-mars-bitch/page/15/#findComment-1867633 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruising for burgers Posted August 22, 2012 Report Share Posted August 22, 2012 how would you find that specific grain of sand in all the sand in the earth? Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide cruising for burgers's signature Hide all signatures https://www.instagram.com/ancestralwaves/ Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/75069-mars-bitch/page/15/#findComment-1867638 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cichlisuite Posted August 22, 2012 Report Share Posted August 22, 2012 On 8/22/2012 at 8:50 PM, luke viia said: We'll just have to make our own intelligent life, and blast it out into the cosmos. THEN we'll have friends! You see that's the problem. We really shouldn't make our own intelligent life while we're still so inexperienced as a race. At this point we can't even make a perfect building for example. Almost everyting goes wrong: a carpenter is late, someone misinstalled a door frame, they supplied the wrong type of screw mounts, a concrete solution is made by the lowest bidder and needs rework... whereas, a fly that sits on the worker's sandwich is perfect! Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/75069-mars-bitch/page/15/#findComment-1867666 Share on other sites More sharing options...
luke viia Posted August 22, 2012 Report Share Posted August 22, 2012 Well, I was being facetious, but yes, you're right, we need to get better at building things. We have the robots that build robot parts, so that's a start. There are some really cool fields of science opening fast right now, things like biomathematics and bionanotech, and I think engineers are starting to realize how much better it is to look to nature first, see what methods it has used to solve a problem, and emulate them, instead of building heavy, ineffective scratch-projects like The Live-In Cube with a Rectangle Entrance. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide luke viia's signature Hide all signatures GHOST: have you killed Claudius yet HAMLET: no GHOST: why HAMLET: fuck you is why im going to the cemetery to touch skulls [planet of dinosaurs - the album [bc] [archive]] Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/75069-mars-bitch/page/15/#findComment-1867672 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rubin Farr Posted August 23, 2012 Report Share Posted August 23, 2012 Curiosity landing site named Bradbury Landing in honor of Ray. nice one NASA Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide all signatures Positive Metal Attitude Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/75069-mars-bitch/page/15/#findComment-1867962 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aphex_Squarepusher_Twin Posted August 23, 2012 Report Share Posted August 23, 2012 If there R extraterrestrials... We would B extraterrestrials 4 them too... Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Aphex_Squarepusher_Twin's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/75069-mars-bitch/page/15/#findComment-1867981 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squee Posted August 23, 2012 Report Share Posted August 23, 2012 On 8/23/2012 at 4:10 PM, Anchio Arch io Son Pittore said: If there R extraterrestrials... We would B extraterrestrials 4 them too... Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/75069-mars-bitch/page/15/#findComment-1867984 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aphex_Squarepusher_Twin Posted August 23, 2012 Report Share Posted August 23, 2012 lol Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Aphex_Squarepusher_Twin's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/75069-mars-bitch/page/15/#findComment-1867987 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest theSun Posted August 23, 2012 Report Share Posted August 23, 2012 i always liked carl sagans analogy about different forms of life and "civilizations" communicating. i'm going to use a lot of quotations because i'm horny. think of existence as an ant. they are not aware of our existence on any level (unless we destroy their lives/homes, and even then not fully "aware" of "us"), let alone aware of our existence as a more advanced species. similarly, if we are in the "presence" of a more advanced civilization, likely their methods of communication are so far beyond ours that we cannot comprehend how/if they function. imagine us trying to communicate with radio waves to some tribe in the south pacific. the only thing wrong or misleading about that analogy is it compares earth (as a closed system) with the universe (also obviously closed in this scenario). and the scale of the earth is just about impossible to comprehend, let alone the scale of the universe. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/75069-mars-bitch/page/15/#findComment-1868088 Share on other sites More sharing options...
luke viia Posted August 23, 2012 Report Share Posted August 23, 2012 (edited) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDRXn96HrtY relevant to theSun's thoughts starting at around 7:30 Edited August 23, 2012 by luke viia Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide luke viia's signature Hide all signatures GHOST: have you killed Claudius yet HAMLET: no GHOST: why HAMLET: fuck you is why im going to the cemetery to touch skulls [planet of dinosaurs - the album [bc] [archive]] Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/75069-mars-bitch/page/15/#findComment-1868090 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest theSun Posted August 23, 2012 Report Share Posted August 23, 2012 (edited) pretty well put Edited August 23, 2012 by theSun Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/75069-mars-bitch/page/15/#findComment-1868094 Share on other sites More sharing options...
marf Posted August 23, 2012 Report Share Posted August 23, 2012 (edited) nice Edited August 23, 2012 by marf Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/75069-mars-bitch/page/15/#findComment-1868101 Share on other sites More sharing options...
data Posted August 27, 2012 Report Share Posted August 27, 2012 (edited) new crazy hires photo. more of the same, but i can't get enough of these. Reveal hidden contents edit: it's so hires it looks totally weird when viewed in the watmm image viewer thingy. right click / view image. another one Edited August 27, 2012 by data Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide data's signature Hide all signatures twitterbandcampyoutube Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/75069-mars-bitch/page/15/#findComment-1869993 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lumpenprol Posted August 28, 2012 Report Share Posted August 28, 2012 look like some tasty alluvial striations in that rock up there, yep yep Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide lumpenprol's signature Hide all signatures After this I listened to geogaddi and I didn't like it, I was quite vomitting at some tracks, I realized they were too crazy for my ears, they took too much acid to play music I stupidly thought (cliché of psyché music) But I knew this album was a kind of big forest where I just wasn't able to go inside. - lost cloud I was in US tjis summer, and eat in KFC. FUCK That's the worst thing i've ever eaten. The flesh simply doesn't cleave to the bones. Battery ferming. And then, foie gras is banned from NY state, because it's considered as ill-treat. IT'S NOT. KFC is tourist ill-treat. YOU POISONERS! Two hours after being to KFC, i stopped in a amsih little town barf all that KFC shit out. Nice work! So i hope this woman is not like kfc chicken, otherwise she'll be pulled to pieces. -organized confused project Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/75069-mars-bitch/page/15/#findComment-1870052 Share on other sites More sharing options...
marf Posted August 28, 2012 Report Share Posted August 28, 2012 On 8/23/2012 at 7:43 PM, theSun said: the only thing wrong or misleading about that analogy is it compares earth (as a closed system) with the universe (also obviously closed in this scenario). and the scale of the earth is just about impossible to comprehend, let alone the scale of the universe. srry, im a dolt. what do you mean by closed system vs open system in this context? Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/75069-mars-bitch/page/15/#findComment-1870125 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Friendly Foil Posted August 28, 2012 Report Share Posted August 28, 2012 Is this new? http://www.nasa.gov/images/content/681054main_pia16105-full_full.jpg Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/75069-mars-bitch/page/15/#findComment-1870153 Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackdust Posted August 28, 2012 Report Share Posted August 28, 2012 Think so, stunning landscape. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/75069-mars-bitch/page/15/#findComment-1870203 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcbpete Posted August 28, 2012 Report Share Posted August 28, 2012 Taken from the reverse angle - Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide all signatures I haven't eaten a Wagon Wheel since 07/11/07... ilovecubus.co.uk - 25ml of mp3 taken twice daily. Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/75069-mars-bitch/page/15/#findComment-1870205 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaarg Posted August 28, 2012 Report Share Posted August 28, 2012 Looks untrodden. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide gaarg's signature Hide all signatures www.petergaber.com is where I keep my paintings. I used to have a kinky tumblr, but it exploded. Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/75069-mars-bitch/page/15/#findComment-1870239 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gary C Posted August 28, 2012 Report Share Posted August 28, 2012 Oh, hey, so apparently Will.I.Am's new single will be broadcast from the rover and played to the surface of Mars. That's pretty fucking lame right there, but it makes you wonder why they put a speaker on the rover. Surely they wouldn't have put it there just for some marketing exercise. This is Nasa and a state-of-art spacecraft. Were they at least not-closed to the idea that they might actually encounter life? Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/75069-mars-bitch/page/15/#findComment-1870254 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Friendly Foil Posted August 28, 2012 Report Share Posted August 28, 2012 So they get this thing all the way to Mars, and then make it play shit like Will.I.Am? Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/75069-mars-bitch/page/15/#findComment-1870266 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Npoess Posted August 28, 2012 Report Share Posted August 28, 2012 On 8/28/2012 at 4:08 PM, Gary C said: Oh, hey, so apparently Will.I.Am's new single will be broadcast from the rover and played to the surface of Mars. That's pretty fucking lame right there, but it makes you wonder why they put a speaker on the rover. Surely they wouldn't have put it there just for some marketing exercise. This is Nasa and a state-of-art spacecraft. Were they at least not-closed to the idea that they might actually encounter life? This is going to be our extermination. 21 December 2012.. The end is nigh. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Npoess's signature Hide all signatures │ Tumblr │ Last.fm │ Soundcloud │ Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/75069-mars-bitch/page/15/#findComment-1870267 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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