Autechre pretty good Autechre sound alike

found this guy on youtube. Sounds good

http://www.youtube.com/user/midinerd/videos

Oh yeah, found this dude a while back, don't remember how now - probably WATMM lol. Apparently I'm subscribed to his channel. Good stuff.

so i dont know much about what went down with the autechre max patches. apparently there were a few leaked. One was an EP7 track', but i keep hearing they were fake, but one was real. i just dont know. This was like 6 years ago. What is the truth on this?

Those 'leaked' patches were reverse engineered. Nothing else.

not sure what reverse engineer means. i guess mimic? doesn't everyone do that to a degree? sounded like a good patch. props to whoever did it

  On 8/17/2012 at 5:28 PM, xox said:

Those 'leaked' patches were reverse engineered. Nothing else.

incorrect, both patches came from the AE boys themselves. One was leaked by Russian IDM group Fizzarum, not sure how they got ahold of it. It's a patch that was used on EP7. The other patch 'Fun' was given to a teacher and employee at Cycling 74 (company that made max/msp) to give to his students at special small workshops. I was the one who leaked 'Fun' to the internet. As far as i know 'fun' never turned into any specific autechre song.

i then tried to reverse engineer the concept of them in Reaktor, i mostly failed though and ended up doing something totally differently. Just for clarification: the max/msp patches were made by Autechre, and i made a clone of one of them in Reaktor.

ok, so which patch is this?

  On 8/21/2012 at 2:17 AM, marf said:

ok, so which patch is this?

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dkf87DJhG-4&feature=plcp

LOL! this is great, haha someone on the Cycling '74 forums tried to cover up the fact that this was a patch leaked from a small Max/msp workshop by Autechred. Pretty funny regardless. Powmod aka John Hidalgo Barnes is a friend of mine, who when i leaked this patch from said max/msp workshop i sent it to him and asked 'do you know how the hell this thing works?' all he did to modify it was put a clock control and a mixer on it to turn down the individual layers. I love that the youtube tutorial maker got intimidated by a totally misinformed douche in the youtube comments and back peddled on it being actually AE. There seem to be a few Cycling 74 forum members very intent on re-writing history of being in denial. I know because unless the teacher of the workshop lied (one of main programmers for max/msp) this was a patch privately given to him by Sean. The teacher didn't say 'hey guys don't put this on the net' so i felt it was my duty to share it and let people reverse engineer a very very small portion of trademark Autechre sounds made by Autechre themselves. A peak behind the curtain, nothing more. Oh internets

So you have 2 things happening here, a cycling 74 forum thread about the morality surrounding leaking a 'secret' patch by an artist, when the patch was actually given out to a class that anybody with $200 could have taken in the san francisco area.

then you have people without the knowledge to back it up saying that this is absolutely not made by Autechre, when if you actually read the whole Max/msp thread on cycling 74 its authenticity is established several times, even not denied by Sean Booth who comes into the thread himself to join the discussion.

So this patch really is made by AE?! Cool!

Thnx Awepittance!

Awepittance, yeah, isn't LOTA Sean on the Cycling forum? Was that patch ever fully worked out by anyone? People are all like Auetchre would never program that sloppily. It fucking sounds nice.

hey guys - I found this by searching for "bands like autechre" or so on google, found this page.

that is my youtube channel at /midinerd (and gmail, handful of places)

Thanks for that info about the history of those patches, John & company.

That 'fun' patch, I spent maybe a week or so analyzing and have some 'things worked out' for it. For example, I think they used a 6-channel bandpass filter bank (fffb~ 6 in max) for the snaredrum, which ties into how Reaktor has a certain type of noise generator that is 6 bandpass filters used to emulate noise-related instruments from the TR machines. There's some other stuff in there, like why they used log~ and clip- there are envelope types in the elektron series that are exponential curves, but have a short hold at its beginning (the clipped~ portion). etc. etc. pretty cool! glad I found this place

Hey criss, you are welcome. Autechre has since confirmed that it is indeed a real patch on the AAA thread in case anybody still doubts it's authenticity. Funny though, i wonder why there are a few so adamant in trying to claim it's not real , maybe because 'fans' who were trying to illegally download a leak of Untilted are still pissed at me for releasing a fake Autechre album on an illegal file sharing network that they think the patch must be a hoax as well.

Oh to be clear for everyone else: I'm a noob here so far, but if anyone else is reading I just wanted to clarify I am 'midinerd' on youtube and not dude387 or whoever the more tutorial-esque guy is on there

This is cool, but to be used to make a proper tune, ehh... I don't know. A randomly generated tune may sound cool but it lacks any depth / feeling. Not to rip on this or anything! It sounds nice n phat and damn it really shows you put a bunch of work into this. I remember hearing this on youtube a few years ago :)

I would probably build a patch like this and then record a couple sessions then take that and sample it in a new session. I use a lot of automation and randomization but never on its own cause it sounds too plastic n sterile. Like sampling that beat from "pH pt2" and fucking with it in a new DAW. Do you use Max only?

h̴ey ̵th͢is͝ ço͢m̸pu͠t̸e is that song in your signature or are you showing me an example?

oh no thats just in my signature hehe. you have any place other than youtube that you post your stuff? im interested

Have you heard FIS ? Sometimes the wideness reminds me some Ae. His last podcast is twisted : https://m.soundcloud.com/maxmuzik/resident-advisor-388-fis

I have some elsewhere but the youtube stuff was mostly 'max/msp' oriented. I have some hardware now and, amongst other hobbies, am slowly getting back into it. The generative thing, sort of like what you talked about regarding its plasticity, is something that I am totally cool with but am having more fun with direct pattern creation instead of the generative stuff. Generative, I like initially because I can mess with programming instead of thinking about a static pattern - to avoid things like loopitis/bruising your stimulation from the same repeating sound clusters.

Regarding generative vs. manual creation, like turning a noise generator mix against a sine wave, there's nothing keeping the two processes from blending back and forth. I personally -like- the plastic sound and, in working with it for however long, I really really enjoy gaining a sense for it in other music where I have no clue what the methodology was. Then, the power of suggestion in reverse engineering starts making its strokes, and there's a good chance that my attempt at replicating the devices used to create the piece I'm hearing are way off from what the person really did to create it, but it produces this strange tool that branches out in ways that the original piece probably didn't have in mind.

I love it all ;)

is it an autechre track or this guy is just trying to imitate it?