loops, arps and seqs

That's what I'm looking for.

I'm using FL10, I'm not researching into tech at all just getting advice and use those.

I got a sick Korg pack that one is gold!!! (Legacy Cell/Wavestation),

my best sounds would be on the moog modular but the sequences on my MoogModular-vst won't stop so it is unuseable for me.

I'm using Sytrus and checking out the new stuff on fl10

any advice for a lazyguy?

thx in advance!

IMO laziness won't get you anywhere in music making. Sure you (usually) want to do things in the easiest way, take a shortcut here and there to get the track built quickly, but some things just require time and energy.

The lazy guy dials up a saw wave, reduces the low pass filter and voila he has a bass. The motivated guy experiments more with envelope shapes, extra oscillators, layering a chorus effected top end, automation.

I don't really know fl or the plug ins you mentioned so maybe someone else can hep with that. I just wanted to make the point on laziness. Good luck.

EDIT: You also might want to make your question a little clearer. What do you mean by loops?

  On 8/20/2012 at 10:41 AM, NZT said:

IMO laziness won't get you anywhere in music making. Sure you (usually) want to do things in the easiest way, take a shortcut here and there to get the track built quickly, but some things just require time and energy.

This. It's good to be efficient and to streamline things but if you end up relying too much on preset/pre-made loops and arps, your music is going to sound unoriginal and prefabricated. Not to mention that most preset libraries in vsts are filled with over the top crap. Sure it's good to have a few good sample packs with percussion loops and such (there's a wealth of them out there) on hand for quickly layering up, and you can even use some presets from your vsts to speed things up and fish for new ideas. But if you're making music make sure it sounds like you and not like what some dude at steinberg/propellerheads/NI/whatever thinks you sound like - tweak everything, improve everything. It's far too easy nowadays for anyone to download a cracked copy of Reason, load up the presets and start calling themselves a "producer" of electronic music; we all have to work and be passionate about what we do to make sure we're better than that.

A personal rule I keep is that I try to never allow myself to use something I suspect someone else might identify as loop/preset X from vst/library Y. If you want workable pre-made loops and seqs, why not make them yourself? Dedicate a few hours every week to making a shitload of loops, presets and arps, then save them for when you're actually writing music. Try to figure out how the stock presets that you like are made, then make your own variations and versions of them. Working on something like that for an extended period of time will hone your skills at using synths and programming beats. You'll get your loops, arps and seqs, plus they'll sound better and more taylored to you.

If you're still bent on cutting corners and having the least work possible, try browsing this for things you might like.

Or use this:

  On 8/21/2012 at 3:49 PM, mcbpete said:

Or use this:

 

 

 

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I think I have that on some computer magazine bonus cd-rom somewhere..

Space Knock straight into Robot Vibrations, loop genious!

also, lol:

• Location:Ger
  
• Country:Germany
  

this guy is lazy, not even down with the backspace effort

  On 8/20/2012 at 10:41 AM, NZT said:

IMO laziness won't get you anywhere in music making. Sure you (usually) want to do things in the easiest way, take a shortcut here and there to get the track built quickly, but some things just require time and energy.

  On 8/20/2012 at 11:42 AM, kokeboka said:

f you're making music make sure it sounds like you and not like what some dude at steinberg/propellerheads/NI/whatever thinks you sound like - tweak everything, improve everything. It's far too easy nowadays for anyone to download a cracked copy of Reason, load up the presets and start calling themselves a "producer" of electronic music; we all have to work and be passionate about what we do to make sure we're better than that.

 

A personal rule I keep is that I try to never allow myself to use something I suspect someone else might identify as loop/preset X from vst/library Y. If you want workable pre-made loops and seqs, why not make them yourself? Dedicate a few hours every week to making a shitload of loops, presets and arps, then save them for when you're actually writing music. Try to figure out how the stock presets that you like are made, then make your own variations and versions of them. Working on something like that for an extended period of time will hone your skills at using synths and programming beats. You'll get your loops, arps and seqs, plus they'll sound better and more taylored to you.

Good stuff. I don't use much software anymore but I tend to avoid that prefab shit because it's just not fun. Coming up with your own sounds is more than half the fun, although if you're undisciplined like me, you run the risk of always farting around with the sound creation tools and and never actually finishing tracks. But I never regret spending time on that, I just wish there were more hours in the day...

Hay any buddy know where I can download a game genie shark mode haxor for my fruity loops demo? I wanna be able to duwb step without having to press more than 3 buttons.

  On 8/21/2012 at 3:49 PM, mcbpete said:

Or use this:

 

 

 

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man, that takes me back.

  On 8/22/2012 at 2:12 AM, Blanket Fort Collapse said:

game genie shark mode haxor for my fruity loops demo

lol!

  On 8/22/2012 at 2:52 AM, chimera slot mom said:

  On 8/21/2012 at 3:49 PM, mcbpete said:

Or use this:

 

 

 

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man, that takes me back.

i hope that thing has a beep beep bike horn...

I get you.

I never played a instrument or anything, never read those keyboard mags! I really don't have much of a clue when it comes down to Tech/Terms and overall producer stuff.

When I do sounds I go ahead for 30minutes -4hours, change some here and there and let it be.

If I had the ability to compose stuff and put alot of afford into it, I guess I would do it.

Gimme some time, like uhmm 10 years

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I should have started like this:

I recommend the KORG VST PACK because KORG LEGACY is just awesome as the WAVESTATION is.

How about you?

chill

I forgot to say thanks for the libary ;)

pace

"If I had the ability to compose stuff and put alot of afford into it, I guess I would do it."

I'm sure you do have the ability. It's more of a time thing. If you are willing to spend the time, you'll get good at it.

"I recommend the KORG VST PACK because KORG LEGACY is just awesome as the WAVESTATION is.

How about you?"

Glad you're liking the vst pack dude.

VST wise I like NI Massive, and Camel Audio Alchemy. The modulation routing on them is very clever, quick and easy. I love making pads in massive, with different oscillators playing different roles. For example, Osc 1 is low and swells in volume every 2 beats, Osc 2 is more mid rangy, quiet with a slow attack, Osc 3 is fizzy, bright and crystalline, pulsing at 16th note intervals with an even slower attack. So if you hold down a chord you have a very harmonically and rhythmically interesting pad sound.

I'm really enjoying designing sounds on my DSI Mopho hardware synth as well. I made this patch where I modulate the pitch of the oscillators (subtly) with noise, then use a slow lfo to morph between the two oscillators which are a semitone apart. It's a very dark and depressing sound but cool.

  On 8/21/2012 at 5:46 PM, luke viia said:

• Location:Ger
  
• Country:Germany
  

this guy is lazy, not even down with the backspace effort

haha! Gera, Germany maybe?

  On 8/23/2012 at 3:51 PM, randomAmateur said:

I get you.

I never played a instrument or anything, never read those keyboard mags! I really don't have much of a clue when it comes down to Tech/Terms and overall producer stuff.

When I do sounds I go ahead for 30minutes -4hours, change some here and there and let it be.

If I had the ability to compose stuff and put alot of afford into it, I guess I would do it.

Gimme some time, like uhmm 10 years

Maybe music isn't for you then. If you're not willing to put the effort in to learn and create your own sounds and music, then what's the point?

a plethora of vagina to choose from + fame and free drugs?

  On 8/24/2012 at 8:03 AM, modey said:

  On 8/23/2012 at 3:51 PM, randomAmateur said:

I get you.

I never played a instrument or anything, never read those keyboard mags! I really don't have much of a clue when it comes down to Tech/Terms and overall producer stuff.

When I do sounds I go ahead for 30minutes -4hours, change some here and there and let it be.

If I had the ability to compose stuff and put alot of afford into it, I guess I would do it.

Gimme some time, like uhmm 10 years

Maybe music isn't for you then. If you're not willing to put the effort in to learn and create your own sounds and music, then what's the point?

plus 99% of the population will think his music is ≥ yours. but fear not, you and we watmmers will know who's truly legit!

If I had the ability to compose stuff already It would be a matter of time and afford, I can imagine that.

In my case I'm just trying to have fun and play around.

It is really not about faking something I just love to work with this stuff

If you listen to my sounds you can tell me that my sound is maybe kinda "flat" and so maybe it is pathetic

http://soundcloud.co...-random-amateur

2x New with fruity 10, I like the first one ;)

http://soundcloud.com/just-a-random-amateur/49sl1

http://soundcloud.com/just-a-random-amateur/707sl2

I have only 2 things (out of 1000 over 1-2 years) I kinda consider as a "Song"

http://soundcloud.com/just-a-random-amateur/tokilove

http://soundcloud.com/just-a-random-amateur/i-sitar

Music isn't for me?

I guess so, in my case it's about having fun myself and not about earning a meal.

thx for the answers

I still really love the melody in that third track. I just wish you didn't use that standard pluck sound in the opening.

make yo own damn

loops, arps and seqs.

  On 8/24/2012 at 9:00 PM, Friendly Foil said:

I still really love the melody in that third track. I just wish you didn't use that standard pluck sound in the opening.

Thx alot man, I'm trying to improve my sounds. if you can stay tuned for atleast uhhmm... 2013

  On 8/24/2012 at 9:42 PM, EleminoP said:

make yo own damn

loops, arps and seqs.

I'm trying man,

the ARPs are lot better and easier on my new synth but I need to figure out alot...

I try it again

sometimes it is easier to start of a loop or a pattern instead of thin air, sometimes I use a loop to start of and even remove the same loop later on * (I guess the answer to this is still = do your own shit)

ppace

  On 8/20/2012 at 2:18 AM, randomAmateur said:

my best sounds would be on the moog modular but the sequences on my MoogModular-vst won't stop so it is unuseable for me.

I presume you're using the Arturia emulation? If so, I had a similar problem with the ARP2600 VST and managed to get round the seq stop/start by patching the keyboard gate signals to the stop/start CV in on the sequencer panel. This is also probably present on the Moog Modular VST, though I haven't checked.

In other words, play around with patching because it's fun and a hugely inspirational tool, at least for me.

Hey dude. Sytrus is fucking amazing, if you take the necessary time to learn it. If you have any specific questions, feel free to pm me.

Have fun making beats dude!

  On 8/26/2012 at 2:42 PM, futureimage said:

  On 8/20/2012 at 2:18 AM, randomAmateur said:

my best sounds would be on the moog modular but the sequences on my MoogModular-vst won't stop so it is unuseable for me.

I presume you're using the Arturia emulation? If so, I had a similar problem with the ARP2600 VST and managed to get round the seq stop/start by patching the keyboard gate signals to the stop/start CV in on the sequencer panel. This is also probably present on the Moog Modular VST, though I haven't checked.

 

In other words, play around with patching because it's fun and a hugely inspirational tool, at least for me.

Yeah it is the Arturia Version, I'll try that for sure!

  On 8/26/2012 at 3:29 PM, od++ said:

Hey dude. Sytrus is fucking amazing, if you take the necessary time to learn it. If you have any specific questions, feel free to pm me.

Have fun making beats dude!

I'm don't have the knowledge to ask without the vocabular I cannot ask, this is pretty awkward.

Is it possible to add the other fruity sounds to the vst?

I have one question, but it's not even that important.

I tried the 2 new vst on Fruity 10 they seem to have a more "fat" sound with alot of sub, after using mostly Sytrus + a little something else I feel like, uhhhm not sure, maybe I don't care to much about subb.